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[Lankykong]

You have a difference in definition of what playing point guard on offense is. One definition is dominating the ball, which Tatum does when Golden isn't out there regardless of whether Richardson is. Personally, this is the definition I use - the primary ballhandler is the PG on offense.

The other definition is who actually calls plays, gets everyone set up, etc. McBee or Richardson probably does this.

Therefore we probably need a primary ballhandler like Tatum and a playcaller type player like McBee on the floor when Golden comes off, and this can (did) effectively lower Washpun's minutes. Proof that we need both: Richardson doesn't dominate the ball as much as Washpun did when he was the PG. Also, arguing that Maymon should be our primary ballhandler because he's the second best ballhandler on the team doesn't work unless you want him to play SF and eliminate his ability to post up. That is basically our only offensive option with Golden out of the game.

Will this actually work? I don't know - I feel like Tatum needs to practice being the primary ballhandler so that he makes better decisions. We saw the good possibilities of it yesterday, and the bad on Thursday.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

You have a difference in definition of what playing point guard on offense is. One definition is dominating the ball, which Tatum does when Golden isn't out there regardless of whether Richardson is. Personally, this is the definition I use - the primary ballhandler is the PG on offense.

The other definition is who actually calls plays, gets everyone set up, etc. McBee or Richardson probably does this.

Therefore we probably need a primary ballhandler like Tatum and a playcaller type player like McBee on the floor when Golden comes off, and this can (did) effectively lower Washpun's minutes. Proof that we need both: Richardson doesn't dominate the ball as much as Washpun did when he was the PG. Also, arguing that Maymon should be our primary ballhandler because he's the second best ballhandler on the team doesn't work unless you want him to play SF and eliminate his ability to post up. That is basically our only offensive option with Golden out of the game.

Will this actually work? I don't know - I feel like Tatum needs to practice being the primary ballhandler so that he makes better decisions. We saw the good possibilities of it yesterday, and the bad on Thursday.

i agree with most of what you say here it does seem when golden is out it is almost a different style out there, different plays take control. i do think richardson is the guy that stands out at the top of the key with the ball in his hands calling the plays though. i would have to watch all the games, i have florida tivo'd and am watching it and richardson is definitely that ball handler and player caller against florida. also, coach martin has stated that josh richardson is the back up pg on this team, so im also going with that. as far as the maymon thing in no way am i suggesting we do that my point was simply just because they dribble the ball up the court, like maymon does sometimes, doesnt make them the PG.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

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[bleedingTNorange]

bruinVol,

ok after going back and re-reading this thread i want to get back to topic so that we can hopefully put this thing to an end there's no point in bashing we're all vol fans and if we disagree ok...my main problems were this.you stated in this thread...

1. we disagreed on that someone can come off the bench and be more effective than if they were to be starting, as in kenny hall this year. we can agree to disagree on this, there are multiple occasions but right here on out team with hall we have seen it this year. now who knows how hall would respond if started again, but we probably wont know so it doesnt matter.

2. you then later stated that woolridge will be able to get his minutes he loses to stokes, by playing sf with "tatum playing the back up pg positoin", and you alloted woolridge 9 minutes/game at this position meaning your giving tatum the 10-12 minutes at back up point that were richardson's.HERE IS OUR MAJOR DISAGREEMENT...you have stated that a young man in richardson who was doing a very good job at playing back up pg is losing that job to tatum who until today has never played that position before. the reason that tatum did was because there was no other choice, richardson was on the bench in foul trouble and golden needed a breather. So tatum was actually the 3rd option if we want to get technical it appears at pg(mcrae & mcbee also handled it some). what i am saying is that going forward unless there is a scenario of golden and richardson out then you will not see tatum at pg, it was the first time in 17 games we needed to do this and it will proa bably be another 17 before we do it again, because richardson IS the backup pg, coach martin has said this.

3. another major disagreement was that you are stating i contradicted myself with bass. the discussion with bass was should he have played against msu or not, i said i was fine with him not. your original option 1 states nothing about it being short term, and the way it is worded sounds as if it is for the year.so i disagreed with it saying that is just idiotic, you later changed option 1 and said that would be just for the msu game, if that is the case the i am fine with that but your original post said NOTHING about it being a short term option.

4. you then went on a rant saying i contradicted myself in terms of team chemistry. you state that in my conversation with bass that i say the team chemistry will be hurt by stokes playing in the game against msu. there are 2 things here i never actually said the word CHEMISTRY and that it would be hurt and that there would be finger pointing as you suggested, i just was saying some people may look at this as you say your a coach about practice but this kid come in right away. what i was unaware of at this time was that stokes had practiced 4 or 5 times and that he was putting absolutely insane hours in late at night and even before fresman orientation at 6 am. i mean this guy was in the gym at 8am sat shooting, playing his first game against uk at noon, and then back in the gym to work on his game at 4 or so for a few more hours. it has become evident he is going to be taking minutes from people and i really dont see how anybody can be mad they can only blame themselves that he has proven to outwork them in practice and before and after practice, quite simply he wants it more than the other guys do. the other thing is this guy is loved by his teammates i have heard nothing but great things from his teammates, and you could see yesterday in the game they absolutely loved the kid and have embraced him.

5. my only other problem is the whole option thing that you have talked about, it was quite honestly completely wrong but you refuse to admit that. here is what you said...
Option 1) ONE GAME:Continue to play the rotation we have settled on with Stokes only playing if serious foul trouble occurs or games are out of hand.

Result: The team will continue to progress and in the short term this option will produce the best results for this team. The team chemistry will continue on its current path which from everything I can see is very good.

Option 2) SIX GAMES:Eliminate Yemi's minutes and insert Stokes into the rotation.

Results: In the short term I think the team will digress slightly mainly due to chemistry issues. I feel that the team will be resentful of Stokes in some small degree but after a short period of time the results will begin to turn in a positive fashion.

Option 3) REST OF SEASON: Play Stokes as much as his body will allow and once he is in complete shape insert him into the rotation of Hall, Maymon, and Stokes with RW playing the minimal minutes.

Results) The team will take a significant step backward in the short term due to both significant chemistry issues and a lack of cohesiveness. After a long adjustment time the team will begin to flourish.

once you changed your opinion of game 1 after him not playing and then watching him play against uk that was obvious, but then you are saying option 2 for 6 games. which by your description is yemi's minute, 8 minutes/game, and that his teamates will be resentful of him. well he played 17 minutes in the first game he played and his teamates were not the least bit resentful of him. you then say option 3 the rest of the season, to me this is the ONLY option you have with stokes. you state though that they will take a significant step backwards, i saw none of that yesterday and thought they looked very much like a close team. i think your underestimating what this kid means to the players and program...the players are going to see him as a. he is going to make me better by playing with him and b. he is going to make our team better and we may be able to actually go somewhere with him on our team now.

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everyone is entitled to their own opinion and i am not gonig to tell you what yours should be. i just think the obvious right wrong things like how much jarnell should play and will cam play point are pretty obvious that is all.

one thing i do agree with you on and has become more evident with the horrible play of tatum is this...our best lineup may honestly be:

PG: golden30/richardson10
SG: richardson15/mcbee15/mcrae10
SF: maymon20/tatum20
PF: stokes30/maymon10
C: hall25/woolridge15

IF TATUM WOULD LEARN TO PLAY WITHIN HIMSELF LIKE HE IS CAPABLE OF...we would be SO much better with:

PG: golden30/richardson10
SG: richardson15/mcbee15/mcrae10
SF: tatum25/woolridge10/maymon5
PF: stokes30/maymon10
C: maymon15/hall25


in any regard...GBO!!!

 

[BruinVol]

bruinVol,

ok after going back and re-reading this thread i want to get back to topic so that we can hopefully put this thing to an end there's no point in bashing we're all vol fans and if we disagree ok...my main problems were this.you stated in this thread...

1. we disagreed on that someone can come off the bench and be more effective than if they were to be starting, as in kenny hall this year. we can agree to disagree on this, there are multiple occasions but right here on out team with hall we have seen it this year. now who knows how hall would respond if started again, but we probably wont know so it doesnt matter.

2. you then later stated that woolridge will be able to get his minutes he loses to stokes, by playing sf with "tatum playing the back up pg positoin", and you alloted woolridge 9 minutes/game at this position meaning your giving tatum the 10-12 minutes at back up point that were richardson's.HERE IS OUR MAJOR DISAGREEMENT...you have stated that a young man in richardson who was doing a very good job at playing back up pg is losing that job to tatum who until today has never played that position before. the reason that tatum did was because there was no other choice, richardson was on the bench in foul trouble and golden needed a breather. So tatum was actually the 3rd option if we want to get technical it appears at pg(mcrae & mcbee also handled it some). what i am saying is that going forward unless there is a scenario of golden and richardson out then you will not see tatum at pg, it was the first time in 17 games we needed to do this and it will proa bably be another 17 before we do it again, because richardson IS the backup pg, coach martin has said this.

3. another major disagreement was that you are stating i contradicted myself with bass. the discussion with bass was should he have played against msu or not, i said i was fine with him not. your original option 1 states nothing about it being short term, and the way it is worded sounds as if it is for the year.so i disagreed with it saying that is just idiotic, you later changed option 1 and said that would be just for the msu game, if that is the case the i am fine with that but your original post said NOTHING about it being a short term option.

4. you then went on a rant saying i contradicted myself in terms of team chemistry. you state that in my conversation with bass that i say the team chemistry will be hurt by stokes playing in the game against msu. there are 2 things here i never actually said the word CHEMISTRY and that it would be hurt and that there would be finger pointing as you suggested, i just was saying some people may look at this as you say your a coach about practice but this kid come in right away. what i was unaware of at this time was that stokes had practiced 4 or 5 times and that he was putting absolutely insane hours in late at night and even before fresman orientation at 6 am. i mean this guy was in the gym at 8am sat shooting, playing his first game against uk at noon, and then back in the gym to work on his game at 4 or so for a few more hours. it has become evident he is going to be taking minutes from people and i really dont see how anybody can be mad they can only blame themselves that he has proven to outwork them in practice and before and after practice, quite simply he wants it more than the other guys do. the other thing is this guy is loved by his teammates i have heard nothing but great things from his teammates, and you could see yesterday in the game they absolutely loved the kid and have embraced him.

5. my only other problem is the whole option thing that you have talked about, it was quite honestly completely wrong but you refuse to admit that. here is what you said...
Option 1) ONE GAME:Continue to play the rotation we have settled on with Stokes only playing if serious foul trouble occurs or games are out of hand.

Result: The team will continue to progress and in the short term this option will produce the best results for this team. The team chemistry will continue on its current path which from everything I can see is very good.

Option 2) SIX GAMES:Eliminate Yemi's minutes and insert Stokes into the rotation.

Results: In the short term I think the team will digress slightly mainly due to chemistry issues. I feel that the team will be resentful of Stokes in some small degree but after a short period of time the results will begin to turn in a positive fashion.

Option 3) REST OF SEASON: Play Stokes as much as his body will allow and once he is in complete shape insert him into the rotation of Hall, Maymon, and Stokes with RW playing the minimal minutes.

Results) The team will take a significant step backward in the short term due to both significant chemistry issues and a lack of cohesiveness. After a long adjustment time the team will begin to flourish.

once you changed your opinion of game 1 after him not playing and then watching him play against uk that was obvious, but then you are saying option 2 for 6 games. which by your description is yemi's minute, 8 minutes/game, and that his teamates will be resentful of him. well he played 17 minutes in the first game he played and his teamates were not the least bit resentful of him. you then say option 3 the rest of the season, to me this is the ONLY option you have with stokes. you state though that they will take a significant step backwards, i saw none of that yesterday and thought they looked very much like a close team. i think your underestimating what this kid means to the players and program...the players are going to see him as a. he is going to make me better by playing with him and b. he is going to make our team better and we may be able to actually go somewhere with him on our team now.

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everyone is entitled to their own opinion and i am not gonig to tell you what yours should be. i just think the obvious right wrong things like how much jarnell should play and will cam play point are pretty obvious that is all.

one thing i do agree with you on and has become more evident with the horrible play of tatum is this...our best lineup may honestly be:

PG: golden30/richardson10
SG: richardson15/mcbee15/mcrae10
SF: maymon20/tatum20
PF: stokes30/maymon10
C: hall25/woolridge15

IF TATUM WOULD LEARN TO PLAY WITHIN HIMSELF LIKE HE IS CAPABLE OF...we would be SO much better with:

PG: golden30/richardson10
SG: richardson15/mcbee15/mcrae10
SF: tatum25/woolridge10/maymon5
PF: stokes30/maymon10
C: maymon15/hall25


in any regard...GBO!!!

I said I wasn't going to post again but I thought your post had a good tone to it and sounded as if some agreement to disagree was possible. A few points I want you to make sure you understand where I stand.

1) I do feel that the 6th man issue is overblown. I feel teams are energized but players remain the same regardless of when they plan. I understand that my opinion is in the big minority on that issue.

2) I started a threat that I thought would be though provoking about choices CM had to make. I only endorsed option 1 for the Miss State game just as you did. I never stated that was my choice past that one game. It was simply stated as an option to be discussed.

3) I never stated that I felt Tatum would be the backup pt guard. I only said it was possible since he played there yesterday and I thought he played ok in that spot.

4) RW IMO shouldn't play the SF spot since he has finally found a spot he is contributing in.

5) The chemistry issue could be real but I hope I over estimated it. A few wins the next 2 weeks and that won't be an issue.

GBO
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[bleedingTNorange]

I said I wasn't going to post again but I thought your post had a good tone to it and sounded as if some agreement to disagree was possible. A few points I want you to make sure you understand where I stand.

1) I do feel that the 6th man issue is overblown. I feel teams are energized but players remain the same regardless of when they plan. I understand that my opinion is in the big minority on that issue.

2) I started a threat that I thought would be though provoking about choices CM had to make. I only endorsed option 1 for the Miss State game just as you did. I never stated that was my choice past that one game. It was simply stated as an option to be discussed.

3) I never stated that I felt Tatum would be the backup pt guard. I only said it was possible since he played there yesterday and I thought he played ok in that spot.

4) RW IMO shouldn't play the SF spot since he has finally found a spot he is contributing in.

5) The chemistry issue could be real but I hope I over estimated it. A few wins the next 2 weeks and that won't be an issue.

GBO
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i understand your take on the 6th man, they are the same person some of these kids are just weird in the head and for whatever reason not starting works for them who knows why.

this is your thread stating tatum is now the back up pg, you dont say if or maybe you make a statement with him at the position...Quote:
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If you want to get Woolridge some minutes which I am fine with as I believe he is deserving then you take some away from cam.

RW may get his shot at the 3 with Tatum playing the back up pt spot.
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now that you are clarifying and saying that it is possible ok we can agree on that anything is possible.

as far as woolridge i hate it but he may have a hard time seeing the floor if he doesnt play the 3. i really see maymon stokes hall taking every minute there. if there is foul trouble maybe he is the first one called upon? i hate it for him though because he is a great kid that has done nothing but represent the university in a positive manner.

 

[BruinVol]

i understand your take on the 6th man, they are the same person some of these kids are just weird in the head and for whatever reason not starting works for them who knows why.

this is your thread stating tatum is now the back up pg, you dont say if or maybe you make a statement with him at the position...Quote:
Originally Posted by bleedingTNorange
If you want to get Woolridge some minutes which I am fine with as I believe he is deserving then you take some away from cam.

RW may get his shot at the 3 with Tatum playing the back up pt spot.
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now that you are clarifying and saying that it is possible ok we can agree on that anything is possible.

as far as woolridge i hate it but he may have a hard time seeing the floor if he doesnt play the 3. i really see maymon stokes hall taking every minute there. if there is foul trouble maybe he is the first one called upon? i hate it for him though because he is a great kid that has done nothing but represent the university in a positive manner.

That post you pasted if you read it closely uses the word "may". That statement was made in response to me knowing you thought RW needed to play some of CT minutes at the 3. I have a huge respect for RW as a team player and I hate it for him but I don't think he can help us at the 3. His career proves that to me. He is going to be the odd man out when it comes to minutes with them being diminished to being as Yemis were. JMO
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[bleedingTNorange]

That post you pasted if you read it closely uses the word "may". That statement was made in response to me knowing you thought RW needed to play some of CT minutes at the 3. I have a huge respect for RW as a team player and I hate it for him but I don't think he can help us at the 3. His career proves that to me. He is going to be the odd man out when it comes to minutes with them being diminished to being as Yemis were. JMO
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ok i thought you were just saying rw MAY get minutes at ct spot when he plays point not IF ct plays point but as long as you arent expecting ct at point its all good.

yea rw is one of my favorite players to come through here hate that he nevery really panned out but he is going to get his degree and hopefully move onto his dream of owning a record label. so i guess this is what we agree on:

PG: trae golden 30mins/josh richardson 10 mins
SG: josh richardson 15mins/mcbee 15 mins/mcrae 10 mins
SF: cameron tatum 25mins/ mcrae 10 mins/maymon 5
PF: jarnell stokes 30mins/maymon 10 mins
C: maymon 15mins/hall 25 mins

you may actually see some woolridge in the post and more maymon at sf and less mcrae overall. i just get the idea martin wants maymon down low and not playing a whole lot of sf

 

[BruinVol]

ok i thought you were just saying rw MAY get minutes at ct spot when he plays point not IF ct plays point but as long as you arent expecting ct at point its all good.

yea rw is one of my favorite players to come through here hate that he nevery really panned out but he is going to get his degree and hopefully move onto his dream of owning a record label. so i guess this is what we agree on:

PG: trae golden 30mins/josh richardson 10 mins
SG: josh richardson 15mins/mcbee 15 mins/mcrae 10 mins
SF: cameron tatum 25mins/ mcrae 10 mins/maymon 5
PF: jarnell stokes 30mins/maymon 10 mins
C: maymon 15mins/hall 25 mins

you may actually see some woolridge in the post and more maymon at sf and less mcrae overall. i just get the idea martin wants maymon down low and not playing a whole lot of sf

Correct me if I am wrong but I think that the first action Richardson played at the point this year was at Miss State. Is that correct?

If so we don't have much at all to judge on how he will perform. I like him a lot but I havnt seen enough of him at the pt to know if that will work or not.

Also we will have to have 4 guys in the post rotation. Hall is way to foul prone to allow only 3 to play.
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[bleedingTNorange]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think that the first action Richardson played at the point this year was at Miss State. Is that correct?

If so we don't have much at all to judge on how he will perform. I like him a lot but I havnt seen enough of him at the pt to know if that will work or not.
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no he received time in both exhibitions( i was in attendance) and had received a few other times in earlier games. i dont know if you dont remember or not but richardson was the guy running the point against florida as well when golden was out. it was mainly wes early on but ccm doesnt want to play that many games and he stayed true to his work of cutting down the rotation come conference play.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

no he received time in both exhibitions( i was in attendance) and had received a few other times in earlier games. i dont know if you dont remember or not but richardson was the guy running the point against florida as well when golden was out. it was mainly wes early on but ccm doesnt want to play that many games and he stayed true to his work of cutting down the rotation come conference play.

actually i dont know what i was thinking wes played against florida, mental lapse i guess.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Correct me if I am wrong but I think that the first action Richardson played at the point this year was at Miss State. Is that correct?

If so we don't have much at all to judge on how he will perform. I like him a lot but I havnt seen enough of him at the pt to know if that will work or not.

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no hall used to be foul prone. he is averaging 22 minutes a game right now and is actually averaging a little less than 3 fouls per game which is absolutely phenomenal. i agree we have to have a 4th that will be ready to go in case there is foul trouble, and that should be woolridge but so far kenny has done a great job.

 

[BruinVol]

no hall used to be foul prone. he is averaging 22 minutes a game right now and is actually averaging a little less than 3 fouls per game which is absolutely phenomenal. i agree we have to have a 4th that will be ready to go in case there is foul trouble, and that should be woolridge but so far kenny has done a great job.

Interesting on Hall. What do Maymon's foul numbers look like?
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[bleedingTNorange]

Interesting on Hall. What do Maymon's foul numbers look like?
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jeronne is playing 26 minutes a game and is at 2.7 fouls/game, hall was 2.9.

 

[BruinVol]

jeronne is playing 26 minutes a game and is at 2.7 fouls/game, hall was 2.9.

Those are good numbers? I have no idea what they should be.
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[bleedingTNorange]

Those are good numbers? I have no idea what they should be.
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well seeing as how 5 fouls is a foul out anything less than that says something. so for example we'll use maymon: he plays 25 minutes and averages 2.7 fouls in that time, if we say we want him to get more time lets try to play him 30 minutes a game, the fouls shouldnt be an issue as his number is 2 away from fouling out. now on the other side use richardson, he plays 15 minutes and is committing 2 fouls on average in that time. if you wanted him to double his minutes to 30 well you may encounter foul trouble with him as by his average that would put him at 4.

obviously this is all averages so some nights are more other nights are less but what it shows is that maymon and hall can both play a few more minutes without worrying about foul problems.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

a good example is yemi, he plays 9 minutes and is averaging 2 fouls. double his minutes to 18 and theoretically he would commit 4 fouls. so he is a guy you couldnt look to to play major minutes because he fouls entirely too often.

 

[BruinVol]

well seeing as how 5 fouls is a foul out anything less than that says something. so for example we'll use maymon: he plays 25 minutes and averages 2.7 fouls in that time, if we say we want him to get more time lets try to play him 30 minutes a game, the fouls shouldnt be an issue as his number is 2 away from fouling out. now on the other side use richardson, he plays 15 minutes and is committing 2 fouls on average in that time. if you wanted him to double his minutes to 30 well you may encounter foul trouble with him as by his average that would put him at 4.

obviously this is all averages so some nights are more other nights are less but what it shows is that maymon and hall can both play a few more minutes without worrying about foul problems.

I was just curious as to how those average would compare to other players.
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[bleedingTNorange]

I was just curious as to how those average would compare to other players.
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well...
golden is very low 30 min/2 fouls
tatum is very low as well 28 min/1.3 fouls

as i stated yemi is very high 9 mins/2 fouls

obviously your post players are going to be higher but really nobody is that alarming except for yemi, and josh is pretty high too it makes me worry a little bit if he could handle the extra minutes. he may need to tone it back a little defensively, and pick his spots.

 

[BruinVol]

well...
golden is very low 30 min/2 fouls
tatum is very low as well 28 min/1.3 fouls

as i stated yemi is very high 9 mins/2 fouls

obviously your post players are going to be higher but really nobody is that alarming except for yemi, and josh is pretty high too it makes me worry a little bit if he could handle the extra minutes. he may need to tone it back a little defensively, and pick his spots.

Richardson seems to be our best on ball defender and adding a back up pt guard role may hurt that with the foul issues. Another reason I see CT as a possibility to get more minutes there. I don't want JR to change anything on the Def end.
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[bleedingTNorange]

Richardson seems to be our best on ball defender and adding a back up pt guard role may hurt that with the foul issues. Another reason I see CT as a possibility to get more minutes there. I don't want JR to change anything on the Def end.
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i think if ccm feels that is a problem he will still be back up pg but will give up some of his sg minutes to mcbee and mcrae. i really dont see it being a problem, uk was the only game so far this season that he was really in foul trouble, and thats because we were asking him to cover one of the best players in the country, as a freshman. that is a tall order to ask of him but it also goes to tell you the faith and apprectiationhe has in richardson. i fully expect to see his minutes go nowhere but up in the future.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

the reason i am so intent about not seeing tatum playing back up pg is because coach martin has stated on multiple occasions that josh will play back up pg. he is not the type to lie about it and josh has done a very nice job in that role so far in the limited action he has seen with it.

 

[BruinVol]

i think if ccm feels that is a problem he will still be back up pg but will give up some of his sg minutes to mcbee and mcrae. i really dont see it being a problem, uk was the only game so far this season that he was really in foul trouble, and thats because we were asking him to cover one of the best players in the country, as a freshman. that is a tall order to ask of him but it also goes to tell you the faith and apprectiationhe has in richardson. i fully expect to see his minutes go nowhere but up in the future.

My only argument to what you say here is JR hasn't played enough minutes to worry about foul trouble until inserting him into the Pt role. I worry his defense is too valuable to sacrifice minutes at the 2 spot so he can play minimal minutes at the pt.
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[bleedingTNorange]

My only argument to what you say here is JR hasn't played enough minutes to worry about foul trouble until inserting him into the Pt role. I worry his defense is too valuable to sacrifice minutes at the 2 spot so he can play minimal minutes at the pt.
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what are you saying? richardson hasnt played enough minutes to worry about foul trouble until inserting him in the pg role? richardson played 28 mins against florida and had 1 foul, he played 25 mins against msu and had 3, both of those are completely fine. he played only 16 mins against uk and had 4 and it had nothing to do with him being a back up pg he didnt even play back up pg against uk, it had to do with him trying to guard gilchrist who is hard for anybody to guard not just richardson. richardson getting some time at the point will actually probably help keep him out of foul trouble if anything.

 

[BruinVol]

what are you saying? richardson hasnt played enough minutes to worry about foul trouble until inserting him in the pg role? richardson played 28 mins against florida and had 1 foul, he played 25 mins against msu and had 3, both of those are completely fine. he played only 16 mins against uk and had 4 and it had nothing to do with him being a back up pg he didnt even play back up pg against uk, it had to do with him trying to guard gilchrist who is hard for anybody to guard not just richardson. richardson getting some time at the point will actually probably help keep him out of foul trouble if anything.

I am saying he hasn't been a guy we cared about getting into foul trouble until now. Now it will matter.
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