The shut down thread

[Orange_Vol1321]

why did she get arrested?

Apparently for a law that says you can't cross this border line of property. Sounds like some Maga BS to me.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Put the lotion away. He can have the military build it without any Declaration of Emergency.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Put the lotion away. He can have the military build it without any Declaration of Emergency.

Spending caps would kick in at $1 billion (he is seaking $5.7 billion) and it would still face legal challenges at that (to reach the provisions that this is, in fact, urgent for national security).

 

[Grand Vol]

lol

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Spending caps would kick in at $1 billion (he is seaking $5.7 billion) and it would still face legal challenges at that (to reach the provisions that this is, in fact, urgent for national security).

Link on the money caps?


And while they may fight it, it's clearly in black and white in the US code.

 

[AM64]

Spending caps would kick in at $1 billion (he is seaking $5.7 billion) and it would still face legal challenges at that (to reach the provisions that this is, in fact, urgent for national security).

So you break the big project into smaller projects. Problem solved.

 

[AM64]

Border officers make largest fentanyl seizure ever in Arizona

It was 254 pounds. A half dozen mules could have carried it through unprotected portions of the border, and no one would have been the wiser. Could even be that this was a gamble. If found, then it adds to the lore of most drugs coming in through ports (leaving the borders as a lesser priority); if not detected, then it was a freebie.

 

[Stew Cook]

Border officers make largest fentanyl seizure ever in Arizona

It was 254 pounds. A half dozen mules could have carried it through unprotected portions of the border, and no one would have been the wiser. Could even be that this was a gamble. If found, then it adds to the lore of most drugs coming in through ports (leaving the borders as a lesser priority); if not detected, then it was a freebie.

Except this is the how drugs come into the country, according to Customs and Border Security officials.. It's not lore. Considering less than10% is found on the ground carried by mules, you would have to make a giant leap in logic to say, it's really where most of it comes in. Others have tried to sell this idea.

 

[AM64]

Except this is the how drugs come into the country, according to Customs and Border Security officials.. It's not lore. Considering less than10% is found on the ground carried by mules, you would have to make a giant leap in logic to say, it's really where most of it comes in. Others have tried to sell this idea.

Two things:

You don't know what you don't know.

and

You don't find what you don't look for.

 

[Stew Cook]

Two things:

You don't know what you don't know.

and

You don't find what you don't look for.

I won't say you are wrong on that. But I will say, the El Chapo court transcripts touch on this subject and cartel methods of trafficking drugs.

 

[Mick]

Two things:

You don't know what you don't know.

and

You don't find what you don't look for.

I hear they have subs bringing drugs up the Mississippi River.

 

[Stew Cook]

I hear they have subs bringing drugs up the Mississippi River.

The drones work well.. They can carry up to a few kilos at a time and can be controlled on both ends, or programed to go to a GPS coordinate and land.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Border officers make largest fentanyl seizure ever in Arizona

It was 254 pounds. A half dozen mules could have carried it through unprotected portions of the border, and no one would have been the wiser. Could even be that this was a gamble. If found, then it adds to the lore of most drugs coming in through ports (leaving the borders as a lesser priority); if not detected, then it was a freebie.

So we need better detection at the port of entry and we need a wall to stop it coming across in the middle of nowhere. Cool, sign me up.

 

[Mick]

The drones work well.. They can carry up to a few kilos at a time and can be controlled on both ends, or programed to go to a GPS coordinate and land.

I don't think the border wall is about drugs at all.

 

[Stew Cook]

I don't think the border wall is about drugs at all.

Not where Trump is concerned, IMO.

 

[AM64]

I hear they have subs bringing drugs up the Mississippi River.

The Coast Guard is catching more drug-running subs, but most 'very stealthy' narco subs are probably going undetected
The Coast Guard is catching more drug-running subs, but most 'very stealthy' narco subs are probably going undetected

[QUOTEThrough September this year, Colombia's navy had captured 14 "narco subs" on the country's Pacific coast — more than triple the four it captured all last year and another sign of drug traffickers' ingenuity. ][/QUOTE]

Looks like the shipping lanes mostly go to Mexico. There are drug subs, but I got a feeling the Mississippi isn't the place for a sub ... big or small.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Comments about the shutdown are in this video...but what it really illustrates is the left wings mental deficiency when it comes to income in America.

MSNBC's Katy Tur challenged on air after claiming America has 'almost no middle class'


Basically..liberal idiot thinks people living paycheck to paycheck means they aren't middle class..even though almost 80% of Americans (probably her as well) do that. Numbers..the dims don't like em..

 

[FLVOL_79]

I hear they have subs bringing drugs up the Mississippi River.

Yep. The Russians para-trooped into Colorado as well. Get ready!

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

The Coast Guard is catching more drug-running subs, but most 'very stealthy' narco subs are probably going undetected
The Coast Guard is catching more drug-running subs, but most 'very stealthy' narco subs are probably going undetected

[QUOTEThrough September this year, Colombia's navy had captured 14 "narco subs" on the country's Pacific coast — more than triple the four it captured all last year and another sign of drug traffickers' ingenuity. ]

Looks like the shipping lanes mostly go to Mexico. There are drug subs, but I got a feeling the Mississippi isn't the place for a sub ... big or small.

Lol definitely.

But back to a narco sub. Where in the hell is this thing pulling up to a US beach and just unloading. It couldn't. That's mostly for Mexico when the cartels own land that is on the ocean. All while the Mexican government/Army looks the other way conveniently.

 

[hog88]

Outside of a few lucky busts the only drug shipments we seize are the ones the cartels give us. Yes, that is the way it works. They give up some shipments so law enforcement can claim some victories in exchange most every shipment gets in.

 

[AM64]

Lol definitely.

But back to a narco sub. Where in the hell is this thing pulling up to a US beach and just unloading. It couldn't. That's mostly for Mexico when the cartels own land that is on the ocean. All while the Mexican government/Army looks the other way conveniently.

Exactly. It still comes back to drugs crossing the US-Mexican border. And if I'm smuggling something I'd pick the path of least resistance, and that's not a crossing with agents and dogs who search for contraband.

 

[Mick]

Outside of a few lucky busts the only drug shipments we seize are the ones the cartels give us. Yes, that is the way it works. They give up some shipments so law enforcement can claim some victories in exchange most every shipment gets in.

I would think most our border and customs agents take their job seriously. This is not a Cheech and Chong movie.

 

[Velo Vol]

Border officers make largest fentanyl seizure ever in Arizona

Great work by the Wall!

 

[Stew Cook]

Lol definitely.

But back to a narco sub. Where in the hell is this thing pulling up to a US beach and just unloading. It couldn't. That's mostly for Mexico when the cartels own land that is on the ocean. All while the Mexican government/Army looks the other way conveniently.

You ever watch Miami Vice.. Boats and blow

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

Exactly. It still comes back to drugs crossing the US-Mexican border. And if I'm smuggling something I'd pick the path of least resistance, and that's not a crossing with agents and dogs who search for contraband.

Agreed. The port of entry, as hog said, is a here ya go. While 3 times that much makes it over a different way.

You'd have to be a dumbazz to bring anything like that across the border at the port. The border out in the middle of nowhere is the easiest and safest route.