The shut down thread

So am I putting you down for a yes of the viability and implementation of a lethal area defense boundary? At the very least you seem to think it viable.

I'm only for this if we can harvest the fetal tissue of the unborn dead for stem cell research and gene editing. I thought I should make that clear.
 
I'm only for this if we can harvest the fetal tissue of the unborn dead for stem cell research and gene editing. I thought I should make that clear.

Hmmm, not sure of the amount of medically viable material we could recover vs the time/cost. At least you're putting in the effort to think outside the box.
 
Hmmm, not sure of the amount of medically viable material we could recover vs the time/cost. At least you're putting in the effort to think outside the box.

Where you see time/cost, I see an opportunity to exchange asylum for just a little more work on the minefield.
 
Have I been missing something? Have the caravanists been driving across the desert, Mad Max style?



I actually want to see this but with a Mariachi band.

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Yep that's it. Except the guys dressed in a mariachi with ms13 tattoos eating tacos.

My guess is that some of trumps henchmen were outmaneuvered by some of the Guatemalan Stoller Batallion Raperz Caravan of Destruction®. Below are mock-ups of the all-terrain MS13 get away stroller.

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Where you see time/cost, I see an opportunity to exchange asylum for just a little more work on the minefield.

That could work I think.

All humor aside what's your take on the original question? Assuming we could, for the costs being mentioned, erect some type of barrier (including possibly some as yet unnamed non lethal variety) that essentially eliminated illegal Southern border crossings how many people do you think would still resist it's deployment?
 
Clintons' big night out: Bill and Hillary skip President Trump's Immigration Address and go see acclaimed Broadway play about a Gay Black Choir Boy

Rather than stay in to watch President Donald Trump's prime-time address to the nation about what he's been calling the crisis on the border, Bill and Hillary Clinton enjoyed a date night on Broadway instead.

The former commander-in-chief and the former secretary of state attended a star-studded premiere of the new play Choir Boy, which tells the story of a gifted gay black teen at an all-male prep school.
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Clintons take in acclaimed Broadway play about a gay black choir boy | Daily Mail Online
 
Clintons' big night out: Bill and Hillary skip President Trump's Immigration Address and go see acclaimed Broadway play about a Gay Black Choir Boy

Rather than stay in to watch President Donald Trump's prime-time address to the nation about what he's been calling the crisis on the border, Bill and Hillary Clinton enjoyed a date night on Broadway instead.

The former commander-in-chief and the former secretary of state attended a star-studded premiere of the new play Choir Boy, which tells the story of a gifted gay black teen at an all-male prep school.
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Clintons take in acclaimed Broadway play about a gay black choir boy | Daily Mail Online

OMG. If that is the price of fame and money count me out!
 
Clearly, this is a crisis and if we don't build an expensive symbol of wasteful government, things might get as bad as they were in....the early 2000's? On second thought, things were actually pretty good back then, so let's tell some scary anecdotal stories about how an immigrant is going to bash your head in with a hammer if we don't have a wall.

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You do realize the chart says "apprehensions". Since the border is wide open in many areas, and there are plenty of reports of people crossing but not being caught because of response time, the real key number is the total number of people crossing the border illegally. But we don't know that because there's no damn physical barrier to stop or slow the people who wish to remain undetected and uncounted. If you're going to argue a point, at least use relevant numbers.
 
You do realize the chart says "apprehensions". Since the border is wide open in many areas, and there are plenty of reports of people crossing but not being caught because of response time, the real key number is the total number of people crossing the border illegally. But we don't know that because there's no damn physical barrier to stop or slow the people who wish to remain undetected and uncounted. If you're going to argue a point, at least use relevant numbers.

But there was no physical barrier when the baseline was established, so it's representative of how many people are crossing, unless you think W was at least 8x more effective at apprehending people at the border than Trump is, which is something I don't think you want to say.
 
What's going on with pelosi's face? Did she have some work done?
She is going to be 79 in March. Is that the face of a typical 79 year old?

They look like 50’s parents who caught you smoking a jazz cigarette and have invited you into the living room for a talk about your future.
 
Take away the incentive for them to come here in the first place, devise an e-verify system that works and then make it a felony to employ illegals. There's always been a resistance to making the penalties for employing illegals stiff and it's because they don't really care - they've never been serious about this and don't be fooled, neither is trump. The only reason he cares about it now is that he fears looking weak and because it controls the news cycle. He's already capitulated once and Mattis stated explicitly said he'd given up on it months ago. It wasn't until he had his pants pulled down by right wing pundits that he grew a backbone.

You know that might actually mean we have to have something similar to a national ID, and we know how the Dim party feels about IDs. How can somebody really use e-verify to check someone if he can't first determine that the guy applying is even who he says he is because he has no legally verifiable photo identification to show? Since states started issuing driver's licenses to illegal aliens, they managed to destroy pretty much the only reasonable solution. Of course, giving illegal aliens driver's licenses also removes a disincentive for them in the first place as does "press 1 to continue in English" etc.
 
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Trump "I want to open the government but I also want a wall"


Shutdown the government Temper Tantrum Trump style because he didn't get a second scoop of ice cream.
 

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