The shut down thread

#127
#127
vol66 said:
I don't have a problem with increased border protection at all. That will not address the bigger problem of people coming here legally on work visas and disappearing after the visa has expired.

It (border security) also has nothing to do with the DACA recipients who are already here, they didn't come here illegally, their parents did. Many of them would have met many of the requirements for citizenship except there is no law on the books that allows them to pursue citizenship, for the most part.

Obviously, the whole immigration system needs an overhaul because it simply isn't working, really, for anyone. Certainly the situation with regard to Mr. Garcia is a bad look, putting it mildly.
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The legal immigration system works fine.......illegal immigration (why they call it immigration is strange), lets say illegals are the problem. Stop them from breaking line and you have a good system.
 
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#128
#128
vol66 said:
Yeah, and he was married to a US Citizen, been here for 30 years, never even had a speeding ticket...
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He should have left after he married a US citizen then went through the process to come back legally. He'd already be a citizen by now if he had.

Boom! Personal responsibility.
 
#130
#130
hog88 said:
He should have left after he married a US citizen then went through the process to come back legally. He'd already be a citizen by now if he had.

Boom! Personal responsibility.
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Left and gone where? He came here when he was 10. He spent the next 30 years here, never got in trouble, has two kids, a wife and a job.

In fact, as it relates to DACA, he "came out of the shadows" as they say and put himself into the system because he thought it was the right thing to do. Had he not done that he'd probably still be here.
 
#131
#131
The Democrats are pushing for this shutdown because they are hellbent on getting AMNESTY for a significant population of ILLEGAL ALIENS who were recipients of the unlawful Barack Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) executive amnesty program. The White House and congressional Republicans have been more than willing to offer a deal and proposal to handle this problem, but the Democrats have been unwilling to give up chain migration, the visa lottery, and funding for President Trump’s planned border wall.
 
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#132
#132
vol66 said:
Left and gone where? He came here when he was 10. He spent the next 30 years here, never got in trouble, has two kids, a wife and a job.

In fact, as it relates to DACA, he "came out of the shadows" as they say and put himself into the system because he thought it was the right thing to do. Had he not done that he'd probably still be here.
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Back to Mexico, then applied for a green card for a person married to a US citizen. I'm not exactly sure how it works but if he really wanted to stay he could have figured it out a long time ago.
 
#133
#133
hog88 said:
Back to Mexico, then applied for a green card for a person married to a US citizen. I'm not exactly sure how it works but if he really wanted to stay he could have figured it out a long time ago.
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I don't disagree he could have done as you suggest. On the other hand, if I try to put myself in his shoes, I can see why he did not.
 
#134
#134
SAN DIEGO (AP) — Recent assaults by tactical teams on prototypes of President Donald Trump’s proposed wall with Mexico indicate their imposing heights should stop border crossers, a U.S. official with direct knowledge of the rigorous assessment told The Associated Press.

Military special forces based in Florida and U.S. Customs and Border Protection special units spent three weeks trying to breach and scale the eight models in San Diego, using jackhammers, saws, torches and other tools and climbing devices, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because the information was not authorized for public release.
 
#135
#135
vol66 said:
I don't disagree he could have done as you suggest. On the other hand, if I try to put myself in his shoes, I can see why he did not.
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I can't, I'm going to do what I need to do to stay with my family. He knew the risk he was taking by NOT planning ahead.
 
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#136
A plurality of Americans say they would blame Democrats if the government shuts down, according to a new poll.

Thirty-one percent of Americans would blame Democrats in Congress, while 26 percent said they would blame congressional Republicans, a CNN poll showed Friday.

Meanwhile, only 21 percent of Americans would hold President Trump responsible, and 10 percent would cast blame on all three.
 
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#137
#137
Does anyone know if the shutdown is a purge type situation where the rules are suspended and there is no crime?

Asking for a friend.
 
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#138
#138
hog88 said:
I can't, I'm going to do what I need to do to stay with my family. He knew the risk he was taking by NOT planning ahead.
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To qualify to apply for U.S. citizenship via naturalization, you should meet following requirements:

*You are 18 years old and above at the time of application

*A lawful green card holder (permanent resident) for five years

*Have established continuous residency for 5 years and are physically present in the U.S.

*Possess good moral character

*Have basic knowledge of the English language

*Have basic knowledge of U.S. history and government

*Show willingness to take the Oath of Allegiance
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Assuming that simply going to grade school takes care of the last three...Couldn't his case worker/immigration officer have a tool to get the guy a green card?

I totally understand where you are coming from as far as the principle goes, but...we'll have to agree to disagree I reckon. Appreciate the debate 88. :hi:
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
A plurality of Americans say they would blame Democrats if the government shuts down, according to a new poll.

Thirty-one percent of Americans would blame Democrats in Congress, while 26 percent said they would blame congressional Republicans, a CNN poll showed Friday.

Meanwhile, only 21 percent of Americans would hold President Trump responsible, and 10 percent would cast blame on all three.
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the only reasonable answer
 
#140
#140
vol66 said:
Assuming that simply going to grade school takes care of the last three...Couldn't his case worker/immigration officer have a tool to get the guy a green card?

I totally understand where you are coming from as far as the principle goes, but...we'll have to agree to disagree I reckon. Appreciate the debate 88. :hi:
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then actually fix the system. dont rely on short term temporary programs to do it. you are just making it worse.
 
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#141
DREAMer Who Killed Two Girls in Hit-and-Run Won’t Be Deported

Illegal Arrested for Child Sex-Abuse Was Protected By Obama’s Migrant Amnesty

DREAMer Murdered American Teen in Sanctuary City

DREAMer Accused of Raping Woman in Sanctuary City

Father of Murdered Florida Mother Reveals Suspected Killer Was DACA Recipient

Three DREAMers Arrested in Nationwide Gang Crackdown
DREAMer Allegedly Helped Drag Queen Smuggle Illegal Aliens in Texas

23 Amnesty Recipients Arrested In Nationwide Crime Sweep


15 DREAMers Arrested for ‘Dangerous’ Crimes

DREAMer Arrested in Sexual Predator Sting near Texas Border
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
A plurality of Americans say they would blame Democrats if the government shuts down, according to a new poll.

Thirty-one percent of Americans would blame Democrats in Congress, while 26 percent said they would blame congressional Republicans, a CNN poll showed Friday.

Meanwhile, only 21 percent of Americans would hold President Trump responsible, and 10 percent would cast blame on all three.
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So only 10% of those polled have a clue? Thanks Obama.
 
#143
#143
Franklin Pierce said:
DREAMer Who Killed Two Girls in Hit-and-Run Won’t Be Deported

Illegal Arrested for Child Sex-Abuse Was Protected By Obama’s Migrant Amnesty

DREAMer Murdered American Teen in Sanctuary City

DREAMer Accused of Raping Woman in Sanctuary City

Father of Murdered Florida Mother Reveals Suspected Killer Was DACA Recipient

Three DREAMers Arrested in Nationwide Gang Crackdown
DREAMer Allegedly Helped Drag Queen Smuggle Illegal Aliens in Texas

23 Amnesty Recipients Arrested In Nationwide Crime Sweep


15 DREAMers Arrested for ‘Dangerous’ Crimes

DREAMer Arrested in Sexual Predator Sting near Texas Border
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That's it? I thought this was a serious issue.
 
#146
#146
Your drankin' menu during the shut down.
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#147
#147
Franklin Pierce said:
The Democrats are pushing for this shutdown because they are hellbent on getting AMNESTY for a significant population of ILLEGAL ALIENS who were recipients of the unlawful Barack Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) executive amnesty program. The White House and congressional Republicans have been more than willing to offer a deal and proposal to handle this problem, but the Democrats have been unwilling to give up chain migration, the visa lottery, and funding for President Trump’s planned border wall.
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All the while hoping that they will vote to keep Democrats in power so the Dems can keep them brainwashed & barefoot & to stay on the Dem's plantation forever like Luthervol.
 
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#148
#148
I'm glad that people see the humor in our government. Some day when my grand kids are watching the movie Idiocracy they'll rub their chin and say dayuum.
 
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