The shut down thread

[Mick]

staying home - yeah, that's the adult move. Sheesh.

Applauding like mindless drones is what you want? When the R's give a standing O because Trump says "MAGA" the D's should stand? Not only did the R's not do that for Obama they also yelled "liar".

 

[volinbham]

Applauding like mindless drones is what you want? When the R's give a standing O because Trump says "MAGA" the D's should stand? Not only did the R's not do that for Obama they also yelled "liar".

Translation: Nuh'uh - you are.

 

[McDad]

Yes. But a mere delay or uncertainty regarding payments is going to slow down the flow of money which powers economic growth.

I believe that dynamic is called "vector". The rate at which money changes hands.

How does vector alter GDP?

 

[Mick]

Translation: Nuh'uh - you are.

Your talents are much more suited for the discussion between McDad and Velo, why waste time on me and the SOTU.

 

[volinbham]

I believe that dynamic is called "vector". The rate at which money changes hands.

How does vector alter GDP?

It's a good question - the impact in GDP will be temporary. When the government resumes and back pay arrives will see a small stimulative effect.

So this quarter could see an impact but next quarter should see an opposite impact.

 

[McDad]

It's a good question - the impact in GDP will be temporary. When the government resumes and back pay arrives will see a small stimulative effect.

So this quarter could see an impact but next quarter should see an opposite impact.

My point, precisely.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Yes. But a mere delay or uncertainty regarding payments is going to slow down the flow of money which powers economic growth.

Sure thing Stretch Armstrong

 

[Hunerwadel]

its funny that jobs matter when they are federal jobs. any other lost job because of government action doesn't get mentioned or is swept under the rug as unimportant.

Like what?

 

[McDad]

Like what?

Coal industry jobs?

 

[Mick]

It's a good question - the impact in GDP will be temporary. When the government resumes and back pay arrives will see a small stimulative effect.

So this quarter could see an impact but next quarter should see an opposite impact.

Do you two see these people going out spending like drunken sailors when they get paid?

 

[volinbham]

Do you two see these people going out spending like drunken sailors when they get paid?

huh?

the bills they aren't paying now will be paid in the near future - it is delayed payment not forgone payment.

there is some lost economic activity but there will be some gained economic activity. It may not be a complete zero sum but all the loss in GDP #s now critics should at least acknowledge that future GDP will be lifted when the delayed activity hits.

 

[Mick]

huh?

the bills they aren't paying now will be paid in the near future - it is delayed payment not forgone payment.

there is some lost economic activity but there will be some gained economic activity. It may not be a complete zero sum but all the loss in GDP #s now critics should at least acknowledge that future GDP will be lifted when the delayed activity hits.

I was just thinking the government employees, government contractors not getting paid now might think about parking more in savings.

 

[McDad]

Do you two see these people going out spending like drunken sailors when they get paid?

Bills due will be caught up. Could also see folks using the payroll in arrears as a windfall and splurging a bit.

 

[volinbham]

I was just thinking the government employees, government contractors not getting paid now might think about parking more in savings.

they still have to pay the bills and I don't believe we've seen such savings after previous shutdowns.

You missed the mortgage this month, bank says pay it next month - you get 2 checks and pay 2 mortgages - same amount of money in that economic sphere.

 

[McDad]

I was just thinking the government employees, government contractors not getting paid now might think about parking more in savings.

Probably would at least in the short term.

 

[volinbham]

Bills due will be caught up. Could also see folks using the payroll in arrears as a windfall and splurging a bit.

Yep

 

[Mick]

they still have to pay the bills and I don't believe we've seen such savings after previous shutdowns.

You missed the mortgage this month, bank says pay it next month - you get 2 checks and pay 2 mortgages - same amount of money in that economic sphere.

Not true, federal contractors don't get paid. Is that a separate economic sphere?

 

[NorthDallas40]

Not true, federal contractors don't get paid.

Contractors are not paid by .gov they’re paid by their own company. So if they’re working now they’re getting paid. Last time many contractors worked remotely

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

Yes, the whole thing was master minded by Trump to fulfill his real mission of undoing the "deep state," also known as Belzebub, Jimmy Hoffa, The Devil, this stuff, amkoptydrogen, etc.

All indications to the contrary, Trump is a Secret Agent Genius.

Sure. That's it. Sure.

Lol......non stop idiot jibberish from the loony clown section.

 

[volinbham]

anyone want to defend Pelosi lying about security issues as reason to cancel SOTU? just curious

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

anyone want to defend Pelosi lying about security issues as reason to cancel SOTU? just curious

He won't cancel. We will get to see the dems and her sitting there with their arms crossed. Lol

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

 

[McDad]

anyone want to defend Pelosi lying about security issues as reason to cancel SOTU? just curious

I dont think even our more socialist posters like her, tbh.

 

[volinbham]

I dont think even our more socialist posters like her, tbh.

who could - would be nice to see some acknowledgement of it but I get it.

 

[Velo Vol]

anyone want to defend Pelosi lying about security issues as reason to cancel SOTU? just curious

What here is false?