The shut down thread

[Orange_Vol1321]

What here is false?

 

[volinbham]

What here is false?

seriously? She implied there's a security problem without checking to see if that's true. You are buying her concern was about security?


some of her comments.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters from NBC News Wednesday that with Homeland Security and the Secret Service impacted by the partial government shutdown, it is not safe for the House to host the president for his annual State of the Union address on January 29.

SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI: It's an event of special security. And so these people are not working. And we've never really had a state of the union when the government has been in shutdown since the Budget Act in the 70s. So this is -- this is respectfully and sadly, proudly I invited to come, privileged to invite him to come. But the government is shut down. The people who are -- we would have the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, the entire Congress of the United States, House and Senate, the Supreme Court, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the cabinet of the United States. Did I say that? And the diplomatic corp, all in the same room.​

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This requires hundreds of people working on the logistics and security of it. Most of those people are either furloughed or victims of the shutdown. The president's shutdown. But that isn't the point. The point is security.​

And I -- I have been in leadership in a long time. Maybe before you were all here, where they have -- we have so prepared in advance for something happening in that chamber, actually, this room, HR 5. You look back at the history of it rather than my giving it to you was turned into sort of a safe haven where they bring us down here if something happened in the chamber. This is a very big deal. It is a special security event.​

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REPORTER: Would you host him?​

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PEOSLI: That would be a security matter. Either the secretary was exaggerating the importance of the preparation required or not. And that's a security decision which is completely out of my hands.​

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REPORTER: Do you hope he sees this as a consequence of the government shutdown?​

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PELOSI: No. I just -- this is a housekeeping matter in the Congress of the United States so we can honor the responsibility of the invitation we extended. He can make it from the Oval Office.​

Of course Homeland Security completely refuted the claim.

Are you really suggesting it was a serious argument from Pelosi?

 

[C-south]

What here is false?

I find her “security concerns” excuse a bit ironic. Wonder what type of security force there’s been in Puerto Rico?

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

He won't cancel. We will get to see the dems and her sitting there with their arms crossed. Lol

Pelosi will sit there, like last year, sucking on lemons & depressed by being present to listen.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

I find her “security concerns” excuse a bit ironic. Wonder what type of security force there’s been in Puerto Rico?

And the wall security is BS to her but all of the sudden we have concerns in DC.

 

[C-south]

And the wall security is BS to her but all of the sudden we have concerns in DC.

Right

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

And the wall security is BS to her but all of the sudden we have concerns in DC.

That's what happens when you have one active brain cell working.

 

[ajvol01]

I remember the Dems, after the Bohner fiasco, pushing for clean CR's. Nothing has changed on that stance. Trump waited til the last minute to make demands and try to use the shutdown as a bargaining chip.

I think they all should do their damn jobs and sign a federal budget into law.

Continuing resolutions aren't ok just because they've become the norm.

Can't shutdown the government if you actually pass legislation to fund it.

 

[Velo Vol]

Are you really suggesting it was a serious argument from Pelosi?

It's a legitimate issue. Is it the reason? I assume not. I think it's playing a card in the shutdown poker game.

 

[Mick]

I think they all should do their damn jobs and sign a federal budget into law.

Continuing resolutions aren't ok just because they've become the norm.

Can't shutdown the government if you actually pass legislation to fund it.

I can agree with that.

 

[RavinDave]

were

There you go again!

Lol

 

[volinbham]

It's a legitimate issue. Is it the reason? I assume not. I think it's playing a card in the shutdown poker game.

Her own comments show it's not a legitimate issue - she never checked to see if it was a legitimate issue and admitted as much. When security was consulted they said it is not an issue.

Why is it so hard to criticize her for this?

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

It's a legitimate issue. Is it the reason? I assume not. I think it's playing a card in the shutdown poker game.

She will get Trumped.

 

[AM64]

staying home - yeah, that's the adult move. Sheesh.

Apparently it's only a temper tantrum if Trump does it. Personally I think Trump was wrong in walking out of the meeting. He should have declared the meeting over and had security escort Chuck and Nancy off the premises.

 

[LouderVol]

Coal, manufacturing, any number of small businesses that have been shut down because of regulation. All because of federal actions. Obama downsizing the military.

This just seems like another politically convenient arguement dropped at the change of party in charge

*this was supposed to be quoting someone, I don't know what happened.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I think they all should do their damn jobs and sign a federal budget into law.

Continuing resolutions aren't ok just because they've become the norm.

Can't shutdown the government if you actually pass legislation to fund it.

My agency has had around 25 continuing resolutions since 2007..and maybe 1 passed budget for funding.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

She will get Trumped.

Man this was a good joke. Nobody here play spades or hearts besides AM64??

 

[FLVOL_79]

The longer the shutdown goes the more disgusted I become with many of my fellow federal employees. I know a couple who pull a family income of around $250,000 in Florida. Thats living large. They are on Facebook ginning up sympathy by saying their kids are going to pull extra hours to help pay bills.. Another union guy where I used to work is organizing food drives to collect food stuffs so him and the other feds can eat like they are a bunch of down trodden homeless people. Sad.

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

The longer the shutdown goes the more disgusted I become with many of my fellow federal employees. I know a couple who pull a family income of around $250,000 in Florida. Thats living large. They are on Facebook ginning up sympathy by saying their kids are going to pull extra hours to help pay bills.. Another union guy where I used to work is organizing food drives to collect food stuffs so him and the other feds can eat like they are a bunch of down trodden homeless people. Sad.

It has nothing to do with money making that amount. It has all to do with party affiliation.

 

[Mick]

The longer the shutdown goes the more disgusted I become with many of my fellow federal employees. I know a couple who pull a family income of around $250,000 in Florida. Thats living large. They are on Facebook ginning up sympathy by saying their kids are going to pull extra hours to help pay bills.. Another union guy where I used to work is organizing food drives to collect food stuffs so him and the other feds can eat like they are a bunch of down trodden homeless people. Sad.

Are you working now without pay?

 

[luthervol]

Man this was a good joke. Nobody here play spades or hearts besides AM64??

I play both.

 

[CagleMtnVol]

Wait, Is the Shut Down actually still happening? I've yet to see any proof that it is. No chaos, rioting, looting or marching in the streets?

Everyone going about their normal everyday lives as if nothing is happening.

 

[AirVol]

seriously? She implied there's a security problem without checking to see if that's true. You are buying her concern was about security?


some of her comments.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters from NBC News Wednesday that with Homeland Security and the Secret Service impacted by the partial government shutdown, it is not safe for the House to host the president for his annual State of the Union address on January 29.

SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI: It's an event of special security. And so these people are not working. And we've never really had a state of the union when the government has been in shutdown since the Budget Act in the 70s. So this is -- this is respectfully and sadly, proudly I invited to come, privileged to invite him to come. But the government is shut down. The people who are -- we would have the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, the entire Congress of the United States, House and Senate, the Supreme Court, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the cabinet of the United States. Did I say that? And the diplomatic corp, all in the same room.​

​

This requires hundreds of people working on the logistics and security of it. Most of those people are either furloughed or victims of the shutdown. The president's shutdown. But that isn't the point. The point is security.​

And I -- I have been in leadership in a long time. Maybe before you were all here, where they have -- we have so prepared in advance for something happening in that chamber, actually, this room, HR 5. You look back at the history of it rather than my giving it to you was turned into sort of a safe haven where they bring us down here if something happened in the chamber. This is a very big deal. It is a special security event.​

​

REPORTER: Would you host him?​

​

PEOSLI: That would be a security matter. Either the secretary was exaggerating the importance of the preparation required or not. And that's a security decision which is completely out of my hands.​

​

REPORTER: Do you hope he sees this as a consequence of the government shutdown?​

​

PELOSI: No. I just -- this is a housekeeping matter in the Congress of the United States so we can honor the responsibility of the invitation we extended. He can make it from the Oval Office.​

Of course Homeland Security completely refuted the claim.

Are you really suggesting it was a serious argument from Pelosi?

She’s an idiot at the highest order. She probably thinks it takes less than 29 days to prepare for the SOTU. Funny thing is, people believe her.

 

[theFallGuy]

seriously? She implied there's a security problem without checking to see if that's true. You are buying her concern was about security?


some of her comments.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told reporters from NBC News Wednesday that with Homeland Security and the Secret Service impacted by the partial government shutdown, it is not safe for the House to host the president for his annual State of the Union address on January 29.

SPEAKER NANCY PELOSI: It's an event of special security. And so these people are not working. And we've never really had a state of the union when the government has been in shutdown since the Budget Act in the 70s. So this is -- this is respectfully and sadly, proudly I invited to come, privileged to invite him to come. But the government is shut down. The people who are -- we would have the President of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, the entire Congress of the United States, House and Senate, the Supreme Court, the Joint Chiefs of Staff, the cabinet of the United States. Did I say that? And the diplomatic corp, all in the same room.​

​

This requires hundreds of people working on the logistics and security of it. Most of those people are either furloughed or victims of the shutdown. The president's shutdown. But that isn't the point. The point is security.​

And I -- I have been in leadership in a long time. Maybe before you were all here, where they have -- we have so prepared in advance for something happening in that chamber, actually, this room, HR 5. You look back at the history of it rather than my giving it to you was turned into sort of a safe haven where they bring us down here if something happened in the chamber. This is a very big deal. It is a special security event.​

​

REPORTER: Would you host him?​

​

PEOSLI: That would be a security matter. Either the secretary was exaggerating the importance of the preparation required or not. And that's a security decision which is completely out of my hands.​

​

REPORTER: Do you hope he sees this as a consequence of the government shutdown?​

​

PELOSI: No. I just -- this is a housekeeping matter in the Congress of the United States so we can honor the responsibility of the invitation we extended. He can make it from the Oval Office.​

Of course Homeland Security completely refuted the claim.

Are you really suggesting it was a serious argument from Pelosi?

This ploy is going to backfire on her

 

[Orange_Vol1321]

It's a legitimate issue. Is it the reason? I assume not. I think it's playing a card in the shutdown poker game.

If it's truly the reason why is the House open now?