The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

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golfballs said:
An NFL team vs. a Disabled Veteran. What a great spot for the NFL to be in

Saints in public feud with disabled veteran over anthem protests | New York Post
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Goodell has had multiple chances to nip this in the bud and avoid getting into situations like the one you linked to.

This, and for a variety of other reasons, is why he is by far the worst commissioner in professional sports. Maybe ever. Which is ironic because he also presided over a period of rapid growth for the sport.
 
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05_never_again said:
Goodell has had multiple chances to nip this in the bud and avoid getting into situations like the one you linked to.

This, and for a variety of other reasons, is why he is by far the worst commissioner in professional sports. Maybe ever. Which is ironic because he also presided over a period of rapid growth for the sport.
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The NFL is now Declining in popularity. A few short years down the road everyone in the NFL will be feeling the pain financially.

The inmates have taken over the asylum.
 
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NashVol11 said:
Let me know when you see BLM lynching white people by the thousands
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Well, the last lynching on record by the KKK happened in 1981 so I assume most people haven't seen that. Seriously, lynching was popular in the 20s and the 30s. Are we still caught up in things that happened when my great grandparents were children? Play that victim card somewhere else.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Well, the last lynching on record by the KKK happened in 1981 so I assume most people haven't seen that. Seriously, lynching was popular in the 20s and the 30s. Are we still caught up in things that happened when my great grandparents were children? Play that victim card somewhere else.
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That’s not a victim card. The KKK is well-known for killing thousands of people, disfiguring them and hanging them in public squares. Saying BLM instills the same fear in white people because they stopped traffic and broke some windows...now THAT’S a victim card.
 
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NashVol11 said:
That’s not a victim card. The KKK is well-known for killing thousands of people, disfiguring them and hanging them in public squares. Saying BLM instills the same fear in white people because they stopped traffic and broke some windows...now THAT’S a victim card.
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That's fair. No one is condoning the KKK. They're scum. And comparing BLM to the KKK in that manner is an exaggeration to be sure. But feeding the mindset of this imaginary oppression just makes matters worse. Especially when reperations are expected for things that happened when no one(hardly anyone) alive today had anything to do with it.
 
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NashVol11 said:
That’s not a victim card. The KKK is well-known for killing thousands of people, disfiguring them and hanging them in public squares. Saying BLM instills the same fear in white people because they stopped traffic and broke some windows...now THAT’S a victim card.
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http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_kkk.html

..."In Tennessee and Arkansas, Republicans organized a police force that arrested Klansmen and carried out executions. In Texas, Governor Edmund Davis organized a crack state police unit, 40 percent of whose officers were black. The police made over 6,000 arrests and stopped the Klan. Armed groups of black and whites fought or threatened Klansman in North and South Carolina.

The federal government also exerted its influence, empowering federal authorities with the Enforcement Acts of 1870 and 1871. Klan activity ended by 1872 and disappeared until it was revived again in 1915."...

Those doing the lynchings and the KKK have always been considered as outlaw terrorists by good folk in the community, even when those committing the acts were -for a time- community leaders, police, judges.

People of good will have always banded together to fight racism and the ignorance that breeds it.

In todays world, some of the most vitriolic racism is directed at bi-racial familys. My sister and two cousins can testify to that. And it is often blacks anger and epithets that confirms their racism toward my sister.

Its a two way street.
 
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Orangedogsrule said:
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/jimcrow/stories_events_kkk.html

..."In Tennessee and Arkansas, Republicans organized a police force that arrested Klansmen and carried out executions. In Texas, Governor Edmund Davis organized a crack state police unit, 40 percent of whose officers were black. The police made over 6,000 arrests and stopped the Klan. Armed groups of black and whites fought or threatened Klansman in North and South Carolina.

The federal government also exerted its influence, empowering federal authorities with the Enforcement Acts of 1870 and 1871. Klan activity ended by 1872 and disappeared until it was revived again in 1915."...

Those doing the lynchings and the KKK have always been considered as outlaw terrorists by good folk in the community, even when those committing the acts were -for a time- community leaders, police, judges.

People of good will have always banded together to fight racism and the ignorance that breeds it.

In todays world, some of the most vitriolic racism is directed at bi-racial familys. My sister and two cousins can testify to that. And it is often blacks anger and epithets that confirms their racism toward my sister.

Its a two way street.
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Sorry, you're wrong. 100% of southern white folk were or are in the Klan, and they hung blacks every day. We would do it today if we could.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Sorry, you're wrong. 100% of southern white folk were or are in the Klan, and they hung blacks every day. We would do it today if we could.
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Your blue font didn't take.

Virtually every extended family lost or were close to a soldier who died in WWII. Even today, my father-in-law will bring up his favorite older brother Don, who taught him all about fishing, baseball .. that stuff. My son has a framed photo on the wall of him in his Flying Fortress turret. The one he died in. Three generations feel that loss across 3/4 of a century.

The same is true for blacks whose families suffered lynchings.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
Well, the last lynching on record by the KKK happened in 1981 so I assume most people haven't seen that. Seriously, lynching was popular in the 20s and the 30s. Are we still caught up in things that happened when my great grandparents were children? Play that victim card somewhere else.
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Yeah, nobody should be concerned about white supremacy anymore...except maybe people who go to black churches or work in federal buildings.

You can't mock people for being victims and simultaneously cry that you're getting it the same when you are not.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, nobody should be concerned about white supremacy anymore...except maybe people who go to black churches or work in federal buildings.

You can't mock people for being victims and simultaneously cry that you're getting it worse when you are not.
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Anyone concerned about a white supremacy movement has a larger problem. Paranoia.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Yeah, nobody should be concerned about white supremacy anymore...except maybe people who go to black churches or work in federal buildings.

You can't mock people for being victims and simultaneously cry that you're getting it worse when you are not.
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Are you talking about Emanuel Kidega Samson who shot up the church in Antioch, Tn 6 weeks ago. I believe that he killed one and wounded seven?

No, no. I apologize. That was a black guy who shot up a white church.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Are you talking about Emanuel Kidega Samson who shot up the church in Antioch, Tn 6 weeks ago. I believe that he killed one and wounded seven?

No, no. I apologize. That was a black guy who shot up a white church.
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Was it about race or are you desperately making it about race?
 
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1972 Grad said:
Aren't you the guy saying that the Muslim extremist attacks are statistically nothing in the grand scheme, and that we shouldn't be concerned?
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I would never say we shouldn't be concerned about it. Of course it's concerning. But yeah, it's not among our biggest problems and doesn't deserve the attention it gets.
 
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