The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

[NashVol11]

As someone that's been around and has family and friends that work with inner-city youth as educators, welfare workers, and law enforcement, yes I am serious. Only the dellusional try to act like the inner-city culture isn't part of the problem.

Hahahaha. "I've been around black people, not that closely but my friends have, so I'm qualified to say that an entire culture is inferior"

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Hahahaha. "I've been around black people, not that closely but my friends have, so I'm qualified to say that an entire culture is inferior"

He didn't use the word 'inferior'. You did.

 

[NashVol11]

It's all about that dadgum hippity-hop music. That's the real problem. Get off my lawn!

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

What are you talking about, you had a whole party of snowflakes and their experts telling everyone it was going to be landslide... funny how that worked.

I never said it would happen, I said stranger things have occurred.

I had a party of snowflakes?

 

[davethevol]

Hahahaha. "I've been around black people, not that closely but my friends have, so I'm qualified to say that an entire culture is inferior"

Oh, I've been around it, and I know many blacks that would agree. I'm guessing I've spent more real time around it than you have judging from your posts.

 

[NashVol11]

He didn't use the word 'inferior'. You did.

"They need to change their culture because they glorify baby mommas too much" is absurdly condescending

 

[n_huffhines]

So does murder. Should we legalize that too?

English, bro!

We strive to be a free society. Freedom is manifest in 3 major ways...the right to life, the right to own property, and the freedom to choose what's best for you, as long as you aren't harming others.

Murder is denying somebody else their right to life and it's the direct harm of others...it's not the same thing as smoking a joint.

 

[NashVol11]

Oh, I've been around it, and I know many blacks that would agree. I'm guessing I've spent more real time around it than you have judging from your posts.

Sounds like you're about as good at guessing as you are at being reasonable

 

[davethevol]

Sounds like you're about as good at guessing as you are at being reasonable

Nope. You'd rather blame everyone else for the problems of the inner city instead of face the facts.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

It's all about that dadgum hippity-hop music. That's the real problem. Get off my lawn!

Idiotic hyperbole aside, what then is the issue?

 

[midnight orange]

There are many private prisons and they do make a profit on it and then they lobby the government to keep the war on drugs going so that they can keep prison populations high and the money rolling in...I like the privatization of most any government service, but this one is a tough one. It hasn't worked out well for justice in America.

Not to mention the federal encroachment on privacy that extends from the unconstitutional war on drugs. Every banking transaction over 10k has to be reported. If you make transactions under 10k, that could be seen as "structuring". Heads we win, tails you lose. If you're carrying cash, be prepared to prove the source of the cash.
I do not and do not plan on using drugs in the future (except Singulair) whether it's illegal or not, but the Constitution doesn't give the federal govt any power at all concerning drug use.

 

[allvol123]

Idiotic hyperbole aside, what then is the issue?

He is scared of the truth.

 

[davethevol]

It's all about that dadgum hippity-hop music. That's the real problem. Get off my lawn!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4920738/Psychopaths-prefer-listening-rap-music.html

 

[Mick]

Nope. You'd rather blame everyone else for the problems of the inner city instead of face the facts.

You are as inner city as kid rock.

 

[NashVol11]

Nope. You'd rather blame everyone else for the problems of the inner city instead of face the facts.

If the "fact" is "this race's culture is fundamentally bad," then you don't know what a fact is.

Who even glorifies "baby mommas?" They're pretty much at the bottom of the perception totem pole. But yeah, you're clearly very much in touch with black people and black culture.

 

[NashVol11]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-4920738/Psychopaths-prefer-listening-rap-music.html

Lmao someone doesn't know the difference between causation and correlation

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

"They need to change their culture because they glorify baby mommas too much" is absurdly condescending

OK then, what was wrong in what he said? And leave the comment about hippity hop out of it. Whitey ain't destroying the nuclear family in the black neighborhoods. That's all internal, bro. Or maybe you believe that single parent women that can barely afford to feed themselves much less their multiple children from multiple fathers is somehow my fault as well.

 

[NashVol11]

Idiotic hyperbole aside, what then is the issue?

It's definitely hip-hop music, because of all that talk about drugs (just like rock music) and sleeping with lots of women (just like rock music) and that's unacceptable.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

If the "fact" is "this race's culture is fundamentally bad," then you don't know what a fact is.

Who even glorifies "baby mommas?" They're pretty much at the bottom of the perception totem pole. But yeah, you're clearly very much in touch with black people and black culture.

Oh so now they aren't glorified, they are scorned. Even better.

 

[NashVol11]

OK then, what was wrong in what he said? And leave the comment about hippity hop out of it. Whitey ain't destroying the nuclear family in the black neighborhoods. That's all internal, bro. Or maybe you believe that single parent women that can barely afford to feed themselves much less their multiple children from multiple fathers is somehow my fault as well.

That's called poverty, not "black culture"

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

That's called poverty, not "black culture"

LOL. What is "black culture" then?

I grew up in Bel Aire so I have no clue. The only black I ever saw was Bill Cosby and that was on TV.

Dude, you are trying to defend the indefensible by blaming everyone but the ones responsible for the problems. The .gov loves you for doing that.

But then again, everyone that grows up in poverty can have LeBron's jumpshot so they should all be rich by now, right?

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Quick question. Is the issue they are protesting being discussed more now then before? If the answer is yes then it is working. Protests aren't supposed to make people comfortable.

No it isn't. I'll wager a fair number of them don't even know what they are 'protesting' anymore. The protest is now the discussion, not what the protest is about.

 

[NashVol11]

LOL. What is "black culture" then?

I grew up in Bel Aire so I have no clue. The only black I ever saw was Bill Cosby and that was on TV.

Dude, you are trying to defend the indefensible by blaming everyone but the ones responsible for the problems. The .gov loves you for doing that.

No, I agree that we should look at all reasons why poor people are disproportionately black, including the ones in which black people themselves play a large role. That's already happening, though. Deflecting to that every single time, or throwing out whatever black-sounding slang you can think of to say that rappers are the problem, is ignorant as hell.

 

[NashVol11]

No it isn't. I'll wager a fair number of them don't even know what they are 'protesting' anymore. The protest is now the discussion, not what the protest is about.

Both are. The protest is the discussion for some because they don't think the issue justifies it.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

No, I agree that we should look at all reasons why poor people are disproportionately black, including the ones in which black people themselves play a large role. That's already happening, though. Deflecting to that every single time, or throwing out whatever black-sounding slang you can think of to say that rappers are the problem, is ignorant as hell.

I didn't say that rappers are the problem. They are symptomatic of the problem. It is actually somewhat humorous although sad that the black community looks up to entertainers as their way out of poverty rather than someone like Ben Carson. Ben Carson... a pediatric neurosurgeon. Far easier than becoming the next LeBron, but not nearly as cool because it involves education. Pocket protectors, reading, real work... nah. Selling drugs is easier too, and besides, having street cred is much cooler.

.. and the cycle continues...