The Thread Where People Argue About Kneeling in the NFL (merged)

[RDU VOL#14]

LOL, was VP banned?

I like Vol Prof because we talked Duke vs UNC basketball, but damn if he didn't get unhinged about Trump. He might've moved on from academia to a cabin in the woods of Montana not unlike a certain person in academia from about 20 years ago.

 

[LSU-SIU]

Don't bail on me now guys, I was in your camp as long as you had some principles while doing your grand standing... you let that man tell you what to do I go zero, nada, no respect for your ass.

P.S. Its too late to help anyway.

Donald J. Trump
✔
@realDonaldTrump
Spoke to Jerry Jones of the Dallas Cowboys yesterday. Jerry is a winner who knows how to get things done. Players will stand for Country!
7:09 AM - Sep 27, 2017

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-27/nfl-viewership-down-11-season-viewers-take-knee

 

[Pacer92]

I like Vol Prof because we talked Duke vs UNC basketball, but damn if he didn't get unhinged about Trump. He might've moved on from academia to a cabin in the woods of Montana not unlike a certain person in academia from about 20 years ago.

He had to set the record for being put on "Ignore"....

I'd bet the house on it...

 

[DinkinFlicka]

So you transitioned already?

He's calling you a p*ssy, p*ssy.

 

[LSU-SIU]

He's calling you a p*ssy, p*ssy.

Since you don't know what transpired, reading slower might help, or maybe that won't help either.

 

[AM64]

The war on drugs disproportionately hits the poor and minorities.

Maybe we should be investing in jobs that keep people occupied instead of sending jobs to other countries. If you are busy making a living so that you can feed yourself and family, it reduces the free time for bad decisions. Work and eat, or take drugs and starve. I'm sure that's too disproportionate for your taste though.

 

[n_huffhines]

Maybe we should be investing in jobs that keep people occupied instead of sending jobs to other countries. If you are busy making a living so that you can feed yourself and family, it reduces the free time for bad decisions.

Free people are sending jobs to other countries. If you can't compete and you need the government to save your sorry ass, then at least just ask for subsidies instead of tariffs, which directly restrict the market and retard the economy.

Save me government! Please, won't you save me from the harshness of capitalism! - guy who preaches about accountability

Work and eat, or take drugs and starve. I'm sure that's too disproportionate for your taste though.

This is a false dichotomy.

 

[AM64]

So does murder. Should we legalize that too?

In a way there's only a fine line between murder and introducing someone to highly addictive drugs that you know will eventually kill them.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Don't bail on me now guys, I was in your camp as long as you had some principles while doing your grand standing... you let that man tell you what to do I go zero, nada, no respect for your ass.

P.S. Its too late to help anyway.


http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-09-27/nfl-viewership-down-11-season-viewers-take-knee

Another example of Trump claiming a phantom victory. The cowboys have NEVER keeled during the national anthem.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

In a way there's only a fine line between murder and introducing someone to highly addictive drugs that you know will eventually kill them.

It's a pretty bold line of consent.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

As for the NFL's status as a "private" enterprise? That's some Super Bowl-sized audacity right there. I first started tracking publicly subsidized sports boondoggles with my very first watchdog website, Porkwatch, back in 1999. Since then, taxpayers at all levels of government have foot the bill for football stadiums to the tune of an estimated $1 billion every year.

Over the past decade, new TAX SUPPORTED NFL stadiums rose up for the Indianapolis Colts (the $720 million Lucas Oil Stadium), the Dallas Cowboys (the $1.15 billion AT&T Stadium) the New York Jets and Giants (the $1.6 billion MetLife Stadium, the Minnesota Vikings (the $1.1 billion U.S. Bank Stadium), the Atlanta Falcons (the $1.5 billion Mercedes-Benz Stadium), and the San Francisco 49ers (the $1.3 billion Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara).

Next in the works: a whopping $2.6 billion stadium for the Los Angeles Chargers and Rams and a $1.9 billion stadium for the Oakland Raiders when they move to Las Vegas. Left behind? An $83 million taxpayer debt on two-decade-old renovations to the Alameda County Coliseum that the Raiders are abandoning.


Sports economists have concluded repeatedly that the effects of stadium subsidies on employment and economic activity are negligible -- or even negative. Scott Wolla of the St. Louis Federal Reserve reported earlier this year, "In a 2017 poll, 83 percent of the economists surveyed agreed that 'Providing state and local subsidies to build stadiums for professional sports teams is likely to cost the relevant taxpayers more than any local economic benefits that are generated.'"


Yet, the NFL, its teams and its sponsors continue to benefit from a bonanza of tax-free loans, municipal bonds, rent waivers and property tax exemptions. Congress provided the league with an antitrust exemption that protects its monopoly broadcasting rights. Localities have raided "emergency" funds to help pay for stadium construction. And corporate benefactors write off their expenses for luxury boxes, tickets and naming-rights purchases.

https://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2017/09/27/nfl-pigskins-at-the-public-trough-n2386976

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Another example of Trump claiming a phantom victory. The cowboys have NEVER keeled during the national anthem.

(CNN)Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones joined his team in taking a knee before the National Anthem, then the Cowboys and the Arizona Cardinals players stood with arms locked for the anthem ahead of the "Monday Night Football" kickoff.

Many of these overpaid prima donnas never graduated college; some did not attend in the first place. So, why should we expect someone who scored a 12 out of 50 on the Wonderlic Test (the NFL’s version of the SAT) to have a rational, well-considered opinion on civil asset forfeiture, criminal justice reform, or the complex legalities behind the use of lethal force by police? On the other side of the equation, why should they expect us to believe they are more deserving of our attention on politics than, say, a stranger on the street? Because they may appear on our Fantasy Football roster?

 

[Biopsyman]

As for the NFL's status as a "private" enterprise? That's some Super Bowl-sized audacity right there. I first started tracking publicly subsidized sports boondoggles with my very first watchdog website, Porkwatch, back in 1999. Since then, taxpayers at all levels of government have foot the bill for football stadiums to the tune of an estimated $1 billion every year.

Over the past decade, new TAX SUPPORTED NFL stadiums rose up for the Indianapolis Colts (the $720 million Lucas Oil Stadium), the Dallas Cowboys (the $1.15 billion AT&T Stadium) the New York Jets and Giants (the $1.6 billion MetLife Stadium, the Minnesota Vikings (the $1.1 billion U.S. Bank Stadium), the Atlanta Falcons (the $1.5 billion Mercedes-Benz Stadium), and the San Francisco 49ers (the $1.3 billion Levi's Stadium in Santa Clara).

Next in the works: a whopping $2.6 billion stadium for the Los Angeles Chargers and Rams and a $1.9 billion stadium for the Oakland Raiders when they move to Las Vegas. Left behind? An $83 million taxpayer debt on two-decade-old renovations to the Alameda County Coliseum that the Raiders are abandoning.


Sports economists have concluded repeatedly that the effects of stadium subsidies on employment and economic activity are negligible -- or even negative. Scott Wolla of the St. Louis Federal Reserve reported earlier this year, "In a 2017 poll, 83 percent of the economists surveyed agreed that 'Providing state and local subsidies to build stadiums for professional sports teams is likely to cost the relevant taxpayers more than any local economic benefits that are generated.'"


Yet, the NFL, its teams and its sponsors continue to benefit from a bonanza of tax-free loans, municipal bonds, rent waivers and property tax exemptions. Congress provided the league with an antitrust exemption that protects its monopoly broadcasting rights. Localities have raided "emergency" funds to help pay for stadium construction. And corporate benefactors write off their expenses for luxury boxes, tickets and naming-rights purchases.

https://townhall.com/columnists/michellemalkin/2017/09/27/nfl-pigskins-at-the-public-trough-n2386976

The public should tell the owner to F off before funding their stadiums

 

[85SugarVol]

Why would you come to the PF, just to put people on ignore? 🤔

 

[Septic]

Why would you come to the PF, just to put people on ignore? 🤔

He's a fluffer.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Burning the American flag is a constitutional protection, as it should be. lol:

Sure it is, but you're a dickhead if you do it

 

[volfanhill]

Sure it is, but you're a dickhead if you do it

Thanks that advances the conversation zero. I mean I know people don't like to be uncomfortable. That flag means different things to different people. You can not like that. What you can't escape is that flag also reps people who were forced to fight in wars where they were fighting for white people's rights and not their own equal ones. How many wars were black people forced to fight in who have grandkids living today? You think they view it the same way.m

I fought in WW 2 sorry not enough not equal
I fought in Korea sorry **** you not enough
I fought in Vietnam sorry **** you too

 

[ClearwaterVol]

(CNN)Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones joined his team in taking a knee before the National Anthem, then the Cowboys and the Arizona Cardinals players stood with arms locked for the anthem ahead of the "Monday Night Football" kickoff.

Many of these overpaid prima donnas never graduated college; some did not attend in the first place. So, why should we expect someone who scored a 12 out of 50 on the Wonderlic Test (the NFL’s version of the SAT) to have a rational, well-considered opinion on civil asset forfeiture, criminal justice reform, or the complex legalities behind the use of lethal force by police? On the other side of the equation, why should they expect us to believe they are more deserving of our attention on politics than, say, a stranger on the street? Because they may appear on our Fantasy Football roster?

Football players are a bunch of dumb... (you can choose the word). I don't particularly give a crap about their opinion, but i certainly don't begrudge them for voicing their opinions.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Thanks that advances the conversation zero. I mean I know people don't like to be uncomfortable. That flag means different things to different people. You can not like that. What you can't escape is that flag also reps people who were forced to fight in wars where they were fighting for white people's rights and not their own equal ones. How many wars were black people forced to fight in who have grandkids living today? You think they view it the same way.m

I fought in WW 2 sorry not enough not equal
I fought in Korea sorry **** you not enough
I fought in Vietnam sorry **** you too

Yet this country has given them more than they could have ever gotten in Africa. If they hate it here that much...... leave.

 

[Grand Vol]

Thanks that advances the conversation zero. I mean I know people don't like to be uncomfortable. That flag means different things to different people. You can not like that. What you can't escape is that flag also reps people who were forced to fight in wars where they were fighting for white people's rights and not their own equal ones. How many wars were black people forced to fight in who have grandkids living today? You think they view it the same way.m

I fought in WW 2 sorry not enough not equal
I fought in Korea sorry **** you not enough
I fought in Vietnam sorry **** you too

You really should research your history more...

 

[volger]

Why would you come to the PF, just to put people on ignore? ��

In the PF we don't ignore. We ridicule the dumb. This isn't the place for candy ass weak of spine folk.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

He had to set the record for being put on "Ignore"....

I'd bet the house on it...

I don't get people who put people on ignore. It's an anonymous message board, we re not going on public record here. Don't be a pu$$y. I have said many things on this board that I am embarrassed about and have wished I could take back. Also, there are posters who have insulted me or my take on politics, sports, or whatever, but that's what it is.

People get too sensitive. That's what this whole thread is all about. Kap can't get a job because he's divisive, Trump makes stupid remarks and this whole deal just continues to go down the rabbit hole. I'm willing to bet most that are kneeling right now are doing it because they are feeling guilty or are just doing it because it's trendy. Stop pretending this is Greensboro or Selma. It's not.

 

[Grand Vol]

In the PF we don't ignore. We ridicule the dumb. This isn't the place for candy ass weak of spine folk.

Armchair is on ignore. He really doesn't contribute anything except post counts for those silly enough to reply to his moronic comments.

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Armchair is on ignore. He really doesn't contribute anything except post counts for those silly enough to reply to his moronic comments.

He is 100% USDA trollbait. Those are the people I ignore. It has nothing to do with hurt feelings, it’s a matter of practicality. The posts aren’t real in my opinion, so no sense reading them or having to scroll through the wall o’ text.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

I will never put anyone on ignore.