The Tiger Woods saga

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05_never_again said:
NASCAR made the mistake of believing it was a sport with national and not just regional/parochial appeal. That ultimately was their downfall. The NFL, to varying degrees, either is or is about to make the same mistake except it'll be with making changes to the sport to attract casual fans (think people who don't know much about football, but might tune in if they overheard that Tom Brady and Peyton Manning's teams were playing each other).

They took a race away or stopped racing altogether at some of the traditional, southern tracks where their core fanbase lives (granted, a lot of that had to do with bad attendance) in favor of racing out west or in the midwest. The constant rules changes are an absolute joke and have driven away longtime, traditional fans. Especially now that Dale Jr. is gone, the sport lacks a "good ole boy" type of driver. The most successful driver and face of the sport (Jimmie Johnson) has the charisma of a damp rag and personality-wise is the antithesis of someone like Dale Earnhardt or Richard Petty. As the sport grew, it really started to develop a corporate feel to it, which drives away the traditional, blue collar fans that make up their core fanbase.

The allegory would be if college football was only popular in the southeast, but people perceived a trend, so a bunch of northeastern and western schools start fielding teams and building 75,000 seat stadiums. The trend lasted for about 5 years before peaking.

NASCAR leadership is probably right when they say that the recession hurt them more than other sports, but to continue to use it as a reason for the decline in the sport is an excuse. They have structural and marketing/image problems that I'm not really sure are fixable, outside of returning to a purely or almost-purely regional sport like it used to be.

There also could be a generational component to it; millennials (yes, I know it sounds like I'm blaming everything on them) don't like cars as much as previous generations. Kids aren't busting down the door on their 16th birthday to get their driver's license anymore. They don't particularly care to drive and won't if they don't have to, much less actually work on an engine or something. Computers/smartphones are way cooler to them.
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The NFL is a money printing business. I disagree with your assessment of it.
 
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114VOL said:
Bubba may be liked by the fans, but his fellow players don't care for him too much. He's a real prick
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Say that about Tiger on here, and expect to be treated badly. Nobody will take up for Bubba. I think that he's an idiot for painting over the Confederate flag on an original General Lee Charger that he bought.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Say that about Tiger on here, and expect to be treated badly. Nobody will take up for Bubba. I think that he's an idiot for painting over the Confederate flag on an original General Lee Charger that he bought.
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you really don't comprehend things well at all. It's comical. I sometimes think you're trolling, but then I conclude you're just senile.
 
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#2,530
114VOL said:
The NFL is a money printing business. I disagree with your assessment of it.
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It is now, but wait until they turn it into glorified 2-hand touch, introduce more gimmicky rules, and have more social concern/pearl clutching from the general public about head injuries. It will still be popular but not quite a money printing machine where they can do no wrong.
 
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#2,531
1972 Grad said:
Say that about Tiger on here, and expect to be treated badly. Nobody will take up for Bubba. I think that he's an idiot for painting over the Confederate flag on an original General Lee Charger that he bought.
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LOL...Tiger's well liked by his fellow players so there would be no reason to say it.
 
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#2,533
114VOL said:
LOL...Tiger's well liked by his fellow players so there would be no reason to say it.
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He's well-liked...kind of. It's pretty well-documented that he had few if any friends on tour, but it is because he is very introverted and difficult to get to know (as opposed to just being a prick). Not making any excuses for his behavior, but the fame that golf brought forced him to become something personality-wise that he isn't.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Sure. I remember the other players lining up by the 18th green to congratulate him after tournaments.
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Whatever. In anonymous polls of players, he's ranked way ahead of guys like Phil and Bubba, who are beloved by idiot fans. Plus, I actually know a few guys out there who play and caddy and I know what they tell me. Sorry, but you really have no idea as to what you're talking about
 
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05_never_again said:
He's well-liked...kind of. It's pretty well-documented that he had few if any friends on tour, but it is because he is very introverted and difficult to get to know (as opposed to just being a prick). Not making any excuses for his behavior, but the fame that golf brought forced him to become something personality-wise that he isn't.
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No, not kind of, he's well liked.

I am always wary of the person who has "tons of good friends". It's usually someone who might not really understand friendship
 
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114VOL said:
Whatever. In anonymous polls of players, he's ranked way ahead of guys like Phil and Bubba, who are beloved by idiot fans. Plus, I actually know a few guys out there who play and caddy and I know what they tell me. Sorry, but you really have no idea as to what you're talking about
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I don't need to know much since you know everything.
 
#2,539
#2,539
Tiger's toxicology results were released and WOW. 5 different drugs: Vicodin, Dilaudid,
Xanax, Ambien, THC. No wonder he fell asleep at the wheel.

Even Tiger is a toker, turns out.
 
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distrovol said:
True. I wonder if he has a clever pseudonym that his scripts are dispensed under ala Ron Mexico.
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Sure does:

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