The Tiger Woods saga

People forget that he would've probably won the '13 Masters if his ball had missed the stick on 15.
 
You act like he woke up one morning and suddenly couldn't play.
I think that BigZit sees him as a worn out drunk on skid row now. I don't think that he is. He is a guy who got injured, changed instructors, and lost his confidence. It is a hard game.
 
I think that BigZit sees him as a worn out drunk on skid row now. I don't think that he is. He is a guy who got injured, changed instructors, and lost his confidence. It is a hard game.

I don't. I see him as a guy who got buster Douglas'd. He got knocked off the mountain and never got back on top.

Him getting a dui just let others realize what I've been saying for about 8 years. He is done.
 
I think that BigZit sees him as a worn out drunk on skid row now. I don't think that he is. He is a guy who got injured, changed instructors, and lost his confidence. It is a hard game.

Yep... Though I think it's been more injury than anything else, who really knows what contributed more? He's been through a lot in the past 10 years.
 
1) Y.E. Yang won PGA in August 2009.

2) Clubbing by wife Nov. 27, 2009.

November is not before August on my calendar.

Correct. And once he got his personal life sorted out he came back and was again the best player in the world, until his body broke down. And then his head followed.
 
1) Y.E. Yang won PGA in August 2009.

2) Clubbing by wife Nov. 27, 2009.

November is not before August on my calendar.

Fair enough. I was thinking he got hit by the wife in 08. My bad. I still think that is when his downward slide started. I think most of his problems are outside the course.
 
.......or David Duval, or Bobby Clampett, or Bill Rogers, or Padraig Harrington, or David Howell, or Mike Weir, or Chris DiMarco, or Anthony Kim, or Lee Janzen, or Trevor Immelman, or........

Duval is an interesting comparison. A few years ago, I didn't think they had much in common. Now, I'm not so sure. They're two socially awkward guys who never seemed quite comfortable then had personal issues and injuries wreck their careers.
 
Duval is an interesting comparison. A few years ago, I didn't think they had much in common. Now, I'm not so sure. They're two socially awkward guys who never seemed quite comfortable then had personal issues and injuries wreck their careers.
I think that Duval is a very good commentator. He comes across as a very intelligent, deep thinker. Some of the guys are really talented, but can't stay focused for 5 or 6 hours, for 4 straight days. I can't go longer than 6 or 7 holes before my mind starts to wander.
 
I think that Duval is a very good commentator. He comes across as a very intelligent, deep thinker. Some of the guys are really talented, but can't stay focused for 5 or 6 hours, for 4 straight days. I can't go longer than 6 or 7 holes before my mind starts to wander.

Their muscle memory is incredible too.
 
I think that Duval is a very good commentator. He comes across as a very intelligent, deep thinker. Some of the guys are really talented, but can't stay focused for 5 or 6 hours, for 4 straight days. I can't go longer than 6 or 7 holes before my mind starts to wander.

Went bogey, bogey, bogey, par, par, par, triple, par, par on my back nine last Saturday. And that triple was just a blow up, no OB, water or hazard. Just a lapse in concentration.
 
Their muscle memory is incredible too.
I talked to Bruce Lietzke several times when he was playing on Tour (mostly about muscle cars and fishing), and he said that he felt like his hands were slowing down coming into impact. That is why he was able to turn his body and hold off the hands, and fade the ball from a closed clubface position at the top, I guess.

Those guys have a sense of feel that the rest of us don't have. I have never had that kind of a connection or sensation in my hands when I approach the hitting area.
 
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So it wasn't alcohol, but prescription meds....
He looked pretty rough to me. The officer said they smelled alcohol, and that Woods "became arrogant" and refused to blow in the meter. That resulted in an automatic arrest and license suspension.
 
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