The UT decline started when...

#77
#77
btate said:
I would have fired him after the 2005 season. we were suppose to win the NC and even Georgia that year beat us with a young rookie coach, at home and 104,000 fans in the stands. Plus Ga. Lost all their OL to the NFL the year before . Most embarrassing loss ever.
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Huh???
Richt wasn't a rookie coach in 05. It was his 5th year at UGA, and he had already won an SEC championship in 02.
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#81
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1985Vols said:
We lost to LSU in SEC Championship game in 2001 that prevented us from playing in the Rose Bowl for the National Championship.
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Ding Ding Ding........We have a winner.
Philllll Lup was exposed for his stopping to pay attention.
His lost his program and job that night!
 
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When Cutcliff left...... A great offensive mind who lured Eli Manning to Ole Miss and has managed to Coach up DUKE to win their share of the ACC Title!!! Fulmer was lost without him.
 
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feathersax said:
Agreed! When my wife & I noticed some UT group selling ORANGE roses in the Georgia Dome prior to the game, we knew we were in trouble. Then along came M. Mauck for LSU & the jig was up. :ermm:
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When TN beat FL the last regular season game of the 2001 some of the Knoxville media met the team airport . Several of the players were waving roses bragging about going to Rose Bowl, Fulmer was right in the middle of that pathetic action. That was the first sign it was over and I never liked Fulmer after that night. He overlooked and allowed his team to overlook the SEC Championship Game. They were acting like the SECCG wasn't anything they were heading to Pasadena. One of the dumbest moves I have ever saw a HC make.
 
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The nail in the coffin was 2008 when we fired a guy that had us an Eric Ainge pick away from the sec title the year before. I remember being upset with 10 win season during fulmers tenure. I guess sometimes you have to loose what you have to truly appreciate it. Fulmers record 152-52-1. Since then 27-34.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
When Fulmer wasn't canned after the 2005 season.
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say what you may about Fulmer but This Football program would have never dropped to these Lowes If he would have stayed! Most of you hated fulmer because He was Fat, He had more love for UT football than any coach we have had in the last 50 years! (Butch jones couldn't Carry "Fat Phill's"" clipboard!)
 
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It has been a slow, painful process, but what pushed us over the cliff was not firing Dooley after the UK loss. It was clear to the entire world that Dooley was a bad bet that had completely lost his team and was doing serious damage to the program. If Hart had pulled a Pat Haden and fired Dooley on the spot, we would be in a very different situation.

The new coach would have started with Bray, Hunter, Rivera, Patterson, ZRo and Da'Rick and would had avoided that Sunseri nightmare. We could have turned the corner, beat some good teams with that offensive firepower, gone to a decent bowl and set us up for a great recruiting year. We might even have been ranked. Players would have developed a winning mentality, and fans would have stopped making excuses.

Instead, we wrecked our D, squandered the best O we've had in more than a decade, capped another losing year curb-stomped by Vandy and made the SEC cellar our home. Giving Dooley that third year was the coup de grace. We made it all about money when it should have been all about winning. Win and the money will come.
 
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Fulmer's last year, Hammy pulled the trigger, Saban, Meyer, and Miles were in the conference, and Cutt went to Duke- perfect storm. Could have had an overhaul of assistant coaches and stayed the course. Either way Mike Hamilton hiring Kiffy was the nail in the coffin for the struggles we still are suffering today.
 
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jarnol32 said:
The nail in the coffin was 2008 when we fired a guy that had us an Eric Ainge pick away from the sec title the year before. I remember being upset with 10 win season during fulmers tenure. I guess sometimes you have to loose what you have to truly appreciate it. Fulmers record 152-52-1. Since then 27-34.
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Quit posting Vickie.
 
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VolFootballlover said:
say what you may about Fulmer but This Football program would have never dropped to these Lowes If he would have stayed! Most of you hated fulmer because He was Fat, He had more love for UT football than any coach we have had in the last 50 years! (Butch jones couldn't Carry "Fat Phill's"" clipboard!)
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I said quit posting Vickie.
 
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jarnol32 said:
The nail in the coffin was 2008 when we fired a guy that had us an Eric Ainge pick away from the sec title the year before. I remember being upset with 10 win season during fulmers tenure. I guess sometimes you have to loose what you have to truly appreciate it. Fulmers record 152-52-1. Since then 27-34.
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29-21 during Fulmers last 4 years doesn't look near as impressive as the 152-52-1 .

To say the program did not go from elite to mediocrity under Fulmer is ridiculous.
 
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Gramps said:
29-21 during Fulmers last 4 years doesn't look near as impressive as the 152-52-1 .

To say the program did not go from elite to mediocrity under Fulmer is ridiculous.
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It's a winning record. The last one we had.
 
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Obsessed said:
It's a winning record. The last one we had.
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As much as I loved CPF a "winning record" is not good enough at Tennessee. That's why CDD was fired. I think CBJ should get a fair shot but Should be replaced if he's not in the championship hunt by year 4-5.

The fact that the CPF replacement was botched doesn't mean it was not the right call at the time.
 
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orangeslice13 said:
As much as I loved CPF a "winning record" is not good enough at Tennessee. That's why CDD was fired. I think CBJ should get a fair shot but Should be replaced if he's not in the championship hunt by year 4-5.

The fact that the CPF replacement was botched doesn't mean it was not the right call at the time.
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I get that slice. I just can't stand the bashing of a man who set the bar so high that fans seem to forget that.

The man is a legend. And should be treated as such. Everytime I see some one bad mouth him I want to punch them in the mouth. It's disrespectful and uncalled for.
 
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Obsessed said:
I get that slice. I just can't stand the bashing of a man who set the bar so high that fans seem to forget that.

The man is a legend. And should be treated as such. Everytime I see some one bad mouth him I want to punch them in the mouth. It's disrespectful and uncalled for.
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That's because most are not old enough to remember what it was like with Majors. Heck they're not ond enough to remember CPF winning.
Ftr I prefer to throte punch stupid people.
 
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mgu7 said:
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Has this pic been photoshopped? It looks Phil is looking right at Miles, but everyone knows he was looking past him.
 
#100
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2007 - 2008 SEC signs contracts with CBS and ESPN for a combined $3.075 billion or $256 million for each school paid over the next 15 years (will be renegotiated soon for addition of A&M and MO). Parity was put on steroids as every school in the conference could pay up for some of the most talented coaches in the country. Obviously, some schools had better search committees than others.

UT's program was on the decline but the ability of other programs to compete for top coaching talent combined with bad coaching selection on UT's part hastened the decline.

Vols win 8 games in 2013 - 2014. Jones gets team back to mediocrity in the SEC (top 25 final national ranking).
 
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