The Weightlifters Thread

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#4,102
Thrasher865 said:
I'm at about 15%, but as I work them out more, I can see them even though my body fat % hasn't really changed.
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They aren't necessarily all that interrelated. I know I've posted this here before, but one of the most common phrases I use with people I train is "abs are built in the kitchen."

Most people don't care so much about building their abs as "revealing" them. Offensive linemen, for instance, tend to have incredible core strength but still carry around a spare tire from eating to maintain playing weight.

Similarly, the one stretch in my life where I had a bonafide six pack, I hadn't stepped foot in a gym in months but I maintained a diet with zero fat outside of my minimum requirements of EFA's.
 
#4,103
#4,103
milohimself said:
Similarly, the one stretch in my life where I had a bonafide six pack, I hadn't stepped foot in a gym in months but I maintained a diet with zero fat outside of my minimum requirements of EFA's.
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I can agree. In high school, I had a 6 pack just because I was skinny as crap.

All I'm saying is, if there's a little more definition to them, a little higher peaks and lower valleys, if you get what I'm saying, then they can peek through a slightly thicker layer of fat.
 
#4,104
#4,104
Sorta, but IMO good posture is as good for abs as almost anything that can be done in the gym.

Just saying that people who just try to crunch their way to having good looking abs are wasting their time (if you wanna have athletic core strength, that's a different story), just eat to boost metabolism and sit up straight.

The look really doesn't come from just the abdominal muscles themselves, much like going for good-looking arms or back or whatever, it's all about how it fits in with everything else. Narrowing the waste line and getting that v-shape upper body and striated rib cage will do as much or more for the look as the abs themselves.
 
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#4,108
chavisut said:
How much is that?
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1-3g daily, preferably via dietary sources rather than fish oil caps, but I keep those around.

Zero fat isn't really achievable for most people, the idea is just to limit it to what you need for basic cellular function (and fat IS needed for basic cellular function), eliminate saturated fats and cholesterol as much as possible.

Not a fun way to live, but if you're super-strict about it with no cheater days and what not, you can get a washboard in no time.
 
#4,109
#4,109
milohimself said:
Sorta, but IMO good posture is as good for abs as almost anything that can be done in the gym.

Just saying that people who just try to crunch their way to having good looking abs are wasting their time (if you wanna have athletic core strength, that's a different story), just eat to boost metabolism and sit up straight.

The look really doesn't come from just the abdominal muscles themselves, much like going for good-looking arms or back or whatever, it's all about how it fits in with everything else. Narrowing the waste line and getting that v-shape upper body and striated rib cage will do as much or more for the look as the abs themselves.
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Too often goes unsaid.
 
#4,112
#4,112
You can be fit & healthy without being miserable. Personally I enjoy eating & drinking & I go to the gym 3-5 days a week to balance it out as best I can. Honestly IMO the weight kwebb had lost made him look more unhealthy than someone 20 pounds overweight.
 
#4,113
#4,113
Agree with the first part. You can cut fat on a moderate or even high fat diet.

Kwebb definitely does not look unhealthy.
 
#4,118
#4,118
govols/cc said:
You can be fit & healthy without being miserable. Personally I enjoy eating & drinking & I go to the gym 3-5 days a week to balance it out as best I can. Honestly IMO the weight kwebb had lost made him look more unhealthy than someone 20 pounds overweight.
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You think whatever you want. I did that because I wanted to see how lean I could get since I want to do a show in a few years. The great thing about that was my strength stayed the same from slow dieting. I would much rather have veins every where than be overweight. I do agree with you about you can be healthy by eating bad/ drinking sometimes and be a casual lifter. Also, I am a big advocate of healthy fats, even on my lowest caloric times of the diet I was still taking in 50g of healthy fats. Fats are needed in a person's diet.

chavisut said:
Agree with the first part. You can cut fat on a moderate or even high fat diet.

Kwebb definitely does not look unhealthy.
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Thanks Chavis.
 
#4,124
#4,124
kwebbvols2344 said:
You think whatever you want. I did that because I wanted to see how lean I could get since I want to do a show in a few years. The great thing about that was my strength stayed the same from slow dieting. I would much rather have veins every where than be overweight. I do agree with you about you can be healthy by eating bad/ drinking sometimes and be a casual lifter. Also, I am a big advocate of healthy fats, even on my lowest caloric times of the diet I was still taking in 50g of healthy fats. Fats are needed in a person's diet.



Thanks Chavis.
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I wasn't putting you down I apologize if you took it that way.
 
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