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Everybody on this board should watch this with a truly open mind. I think Bill Nye destroys Ham's arguments. However, I don't think he disproves creationism. You just can't go into it with a literal interpretation of the Bible. To think that the world is just several thousand years old is asinine and just plain ignoring facts. And with that brings into question what in the Bible actually can be interpreted literally..

If you're still around, I'd like to invite you and everyone else here to participate in an experiment. It'll only take about a minute, and we've all already expended much more than that here.

You're God. Congrats. No seriously. Pretend you're God. Now, create. Nothing exists and you decide you want something to. Create. Whatever you want. I don't want to put ideas in your head, but it could be your dream world, or universe, or it may only exist in the ether. It could be a world where our beloved Vols (remember them) are always on the field in Neyland, vs. Bama, and it's always 1997 (Tuscaloosa, I know, but Manning was epic!) Anyway, spend the next 30 to 60 seconds creating a world. Really envision it in your mind, since, you know, it won't really spring forth like you were really God. Create. [jeopardy theme song]
 
I hardly call the use of punnett squares as empirical mathematical evidence for this argument. I'm not saying that people can or can not be born gay, but to assume that such a gene is merely a Mendelian trait is a poor way to argue your point.

This gene. Is it surrounded by news media?
 
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It's astounding that a book that has survived thousands of years, never been proved false, give details (cities, times, kings, ect.), is outdated and useless compared to our modern thinking. Many modern thought processes have come and gone in the past 2000 years, and the Bible has remained. Long after your life it will still remain. Today's culture won't change that either. Rulers couldn't during the reformation.

Man ruins everything it touches. Even the Greeks understood this. Some of our world wonders were slavery, marginalizing women, and abortion. The answer to lives questions are not in our mental capacity. The smartest man on this board has no control over his intelligence, strength, or future. Just the facts.

I'm sorry, but are you saying the Bible has never been proven false here?
 
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I'm sure the openly gay teens bullied to the point of suicide or murdered because of their sexual orientation went through the hell they did because it was trendy. Or the ones who came out to their families knowing everyone they loved would abandon them. Sounds pretty trendy to me.

I knew a gay teenager with intolerant parents who attempted suicide, and almost all of the gay people I know say they've been bullied by classmates or strangers. People who attempt to minimalize the courage and importance of Michael Sam's decision to come out either don't know or don't care about how bad it still is for gay people in our society.
 
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Only difference is their texts have been proven incorrect. No need to get hung up on the details though.

They have?!? Thank GOD I can finally pick the right one and get my guaranteed pass to heaven then!

You've got to be kidding me. I've never come across someone so blinded by faith. Oh wait...yes I have there about 10 others in this thread. :crazy:
 
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I hardly call the use of punnett squares as empirical mathematical evidence for this argument. I'm not saying that people can or can not be born gay, but to assume that such a gene is merely a Mendelian trait is a poor way to argue your point.

I don't know what's worse, this entire damn thread or your username.
 
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Well-there's the whole issue with the carbon dating of fossils that prove Earth is older than 6500 years old.

I also have not run into a snake that was able to use the spoken word.

Any person who has read on carbon dating knows that anything over 4,000 years old is unreliable and not considered fact because there aren't many samples to hold it up against.

No I have never ran into a snake that could talk, but I also fail to see in the Bible where God said snakes would speak with us.
 
Any person who has read on carbon dating knows that anything over 4,000 years old is unreliable and not considered fact because there aren't many samples to hold it up against.

No I have never ran into a snake that could talk, but I also fail to see in the Bible where God said snakes would speak with us.

please don't ever procreate
 
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I hardly call the use of punnett squares as empirical mathematical evidence for this argument. I'm not saying that people can or can not be born gay, but to assume that such a gene is merely a Mendelian trait is a poor way to argue your point.

So, you're suggesting that homo/hetero is genetically akin to whether someone is 5'7" or 6'2"? Or whether someone is a muffin top or pear shaped?

I should point out here that I am a firm believer that some are born with a greater pre-disposition for becoming gay. Just as some are born more likely to become alcoholics, gambling addicts, etc because of a genetic heritage of the same. That doesn't mean they were born an alcoholic any more than it means the guy with extra femine qualities was born gay, for a stereotyped example.
 
Any person who has read on carbon dating knows that anything over 4,000 years old is unreliable and not considered fact because there aren't many samples to hold it up against.

No I have never ran into a snake that could talk, but I also fail to see in the Bible where God said snakes would speak with us.

Interesting. So the half-life of carbon-14 changes after about 4,000 years? Glad we have a scientist here to explain all this to us.
 
I have read the first one and I don't see the contradiction. I am not saying that as a jerk. Just asking. I could have very easily misunderstood it.

Lucky for you there are about 300 more you can fact check. Get back to us in about a month when you've gone over everything. Take your sweet time, I'd hate for you to miss something.
 
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Let me post what I posted in response to SDV on the NCAA forum about this same question:

Assuming you're not just joking, let me answer that question. We live in a society where you're considered heterosexual by default. It's not like you have to go around parading your heterosexuality (although many still do) to feel accepted or to fit in. For gays, their sexuality is obviously a fundamental part of their being, just as your heterosexuality is to you. Difference is, you don't live in a society where your heterosexuality is considered a problem. Of course it's not political for you. It doesn't have to be. But for gays on the other hand...

No one asks me what my sexuality is, and I don't go around sharing it. What're you're saying is dumb and assumes people like to be defined by their sexuality.

Short sighted at best. :hmm:
 
Lucky for you there are about 300 more you can fact check. Get back to us in about a month when you've gone over everything. Take your sweet time, I'd hate for you to miss something.

I also have the answer for the second one. Looking at number 3 now.
 
Only difference is their texts have been proven incorrect. No need to get hung up on the details though.

Yeah, cause then we might realize you're just blowing smoke! Those pesky details really are a b*&%h.
 

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