There's not a penalty to harsh for PSU!

I can't find it on the world wide web. I saw on his twitter that he said something about victims going back to the 70's? WTF? Oh and do tell what he said about the kids.
Told them to shut up, borderline name-calling, etc. In other words spoke about intensely as I've ever seen anyone on a panel on OTL.

Strangely enough when the guy from First Take opposite Skip and another person called for PSU to get the death penalty, Doyel said no.
 
In general agreement with that article, as I have made abundantly clear in this thread.

The other astute point he made on OTL was that whenever this sort of thing happens, especially where kids are victimized, then a bunch of people always get in a fight to the death to try and reach the moral high ground, like it's a competition who could be the most outraged.

I suppose it can be chalked up to human nature.

The other thing I agree with him on, is that if the NCAA does decide it needs to step in, then it has to institute the death penalty. If Emmert and co. decide they have no ground to act, that's fine, if they do, then anything less than cancelling the season would be insulting, for lack of a better term.
 
In general agreement with that article, as I have made abundantly clear in this thread.

The other astute point he made on OTL was that whenever this sort of thing happens, especially where kids are victimized, then a bunch of people always get in a fight to the death to try and reach the moral high ground, like it's a competition who could be the most outraged.

I suppose it can be chalked up to human nature.

The other thing I agree with him on, is that if the NCAA does decide it needs to step in, then it has to institute the death penalty. If Emmert and co. decide they have no ground to act, that's fine, if they do, then anything less than cancelling the season would be insulting, for lack of a better term.

If they go after ancillary, but in scope transgressions, I could see something less than a cancelled season. Of course, there has to be something actually there to cite them on.

And clearly I'm more outraged than the rest of you fine people.
 
We'll see what happens. They covered this up, but I'm not sure if anybody in college football has fewer violations of any variety or degree than Penn State going back decades.
 
I know we all can't stand Skip Bayless, but I thought he brought up a great point:

"Anytime I see the Joe Paterno statue, I don't see Joe Paterno. I see Jerry Sandusky."
 
It was a foregone conclusion that the Paterno statue is coming down. I don't know why that particular issue is the big deal with ESPN. It's basic intuition, if for some reason they decide to let the statue stand, it will have to be under guard 24/7 indefinitely.
 
It was a foregone conclusion that the Paterno statue is coming down. I don't know why that particular issue is the big deal with ESPN. It's basic intuition, if for some reason they decide to let the statue stand, it will have to be under guard 24/7 indefinitely.

I'll tear it down myself.
 
It was a foregone conclusion that the Paterno statue is coming down. I don't know why that particular issue is the big deal with ESPN. It's basic intuition, if for some reason they decide to let the statue stand, it will have to be under guard 24/7 indefinitely.

I'll tear it down myself.

And that why it will be under guard 24/7 :)
 
SIAP

As far as the NCAA is concerned, all punishment options are in play after former F.B.I. director Louis J. Freeh delivered his scathing report on the university's handling of the Jerry Sandusky sexual abuse scandal.

In an exclusive interview with Tavis Smiley airing on Monday night on PBS, NCAA President Mark Emmert discussed potential punishments as well as his own reactions to the 267-page report produced by Freeh's eight-month investigation. The report indicated that former head football coach Joe Paterno and three top PSU officials "concealed critical facts relating to Sandusky's child abuse."

"I don’t want to take anything off the table," Emmert said when asked about the possible use of the NCAA "Death Penalty," which was applied to Southern Methodist University's football program in the 1980s. "The fact is this is completely different than an impermissible benefits scandal like happened at SMU, or anything else we’ve dealt with. This is as systemic, a cultural problem as it is a football problem."
TAVIS SMILEY | Mark Emmert | PBS - YouTube
 
Well, Emmert is shooting his mouth off. He hedged a bit in that interview, but he's still putting out the expectation that the NCAA is going to get involved. Stupid.
 
Well, Emmert is shooting his mouth off. He hedged a bit in that interview, but he's still putting out the expectation that the NCAA is going to get involved. Stupid.

Stupid only if they don't get involved. I think the NCAA lawyers have had plenty of time to advice Emmert on what they can do. You may not like it but I suspect that the NCAA will use this incident to expand their jurisdiction in college athletics.
 
Stupid only if they don't get involved. I think the NCAA lawyers have had plenty of time to advice Emmert on what they can do. You may not like it but I suspect that the NCAA will use this incident to expand their jurisdiction in college athletics.
The implication being that the NCAA can now overtake aspects of the criminal justice system...

I still maintain the NCAA needs to do nothing here.
 
Stupid only if they don't get involved. I think the NCAA lawyers have had plenty of time to advice Emmert on what they can do. You may not like it but I suspect that the NCAA will use this incident to expand their jurisdiction in college athletics.

If there is anyone who thinks this is a good thing, that person hasn't been paying attention.
 
The implication being that the NCAA can now overtake aspects of the criminal justice system...

I still maintain the NCAA needs to do nothing here.

To punish PSU for crimes committed by their employees would be an overreach of the highest order.
 
The NCAA getting involved is a joke, and the people advocating that crap are no more than vengeful children.

It was a cover up to protect the Football Program. That's not hard to understand. That makes it the NCAAs business

The ones that don't see that are scared it could happen to their own program

It could. Better not protect child molestors
 
It was a cover up to protect the Football Program. That's not hard to understand. That makes it the NCAAs business

The ones that don't see that are scared it could happen to their own program

It could. Better not protect child molestors

What NCAA violation did PSU commit- lack of institutional control? Looks like complete and total institutional control to me.

The NCAA has zero, no, notta business getting involved in any way with criminal cases like this. That is absolutely not the purpose of the organization, and giving the abortion that is the NCAA even more reach is beyond stupid, unless you'd like a program like Tennessee put on probation and given postseason bans for all of our Nu'keeses and Janzens.
 
No, it doesn't. Committing a violation of NCAA rules makes it the NCAA's business. Barring that, the NCAA should stay out.

Yes it is. New rules are made every day

30 years ago, there was no Sexual Harassment policies. Yet issues arose and policy made

NCAA has ethics codes in place. Just because its never been an issue that has came up, doesn't mean they can't enforce them now
 
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