Third Saturday and SEC Expansion

#151
#151
Incipient said:
The only way I can see in which it'd make any sense is to have rotating divisions with four pods instead of fixed divisions (basically, what the 90s superWAC did, but without the anchors that ruined everything).
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In other words, just copying the AFC/NFC.
 
#152
#152
vol66 said:
If you buy the hype on the TAMU Scout board, and I'm not sure I do, A&M will be in the SEC for the 2012 season, and we will look to add 3 more teams, two from the ACC.

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4 divisions of four really makes the most sense.
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#154
#154
Incipient said:
This scares me. Might actually help from a competitive standpoint, but would be horrific from a fan standpoint.
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I agree completely. Auburn-Alabama is the one rivalry that most closely approaches the intensity of intertribal warfare. However, for those of us with more than a couple of decades as fans, Tennessee and Alabama is the premier SEC rivalry, one that simply oozed history, tradition and national significance. Furthermore, both Neyland and Bryant used this game as a measuring stick for their respective teams.
 
#156
#156
tvolsfan said:
4 divisions of 4 teams? Seems pretty similar.
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"rotating divisions with four pods. . . what the 90s superWAC did, but without the anchors that ruined everything" is not the same thing as 4 divisions of 4 teams.

You have four pods of four teams, and each year they're combined into two divisions of eight teams. That way there's still a conference championship game instead of a conference playoff, but you also actually play the other teams from your conference at least once every three years.
 
#157
#157
Incipient said:
"rotating divisions with four pods. . . what the 90s superWAC did, but without the anchors that ruined everything" is not the same thing as 4 divisions of 4 teams.

You have four pods of four teams, and each year they're combined into two divisions of eight teams. That way there's still a conference championship game instead of a conference playoff, but you also actually play the other teams from your conference at least once every three years.
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Oh that makes sense then.

Still not a fan of the idea, but that's just me.
 
#159
#159
I'm old enough to reminder when we rarely played Florida but played Alabama, Auburn and Ole Miss every year.
 
#160
#160
4 division with 4 teams... I would either really like that, or we get stuck in the division with Bama, Florida, and Georgia, and have a really hard time simply winning our sub-division.

On the other hand, we could be grouped with Vandy, Kentucky, and Georgia and just destroy our division most years.
 
#162
#162
tvolsfan said:
Oh that makes sense then.

Still not a fan of the idea, but that's just me.
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It's a little crazy, but it's hands down the best way to do a 16-team conference. There really just aren't any other good options. I still don't think the SEC should make the first move. 12 has been kind to us.
 
#164
#164
VolunteerVandiver said:
4 division with 4 teams... I would either really like that, or we get stuck in the division with Bama, Florida, and Georgia, and have a really hard time simply winning our sub-division.

On the other hand, we could be grouped with Vandy, Kentucky, and Georgia and just destroy our division most years.
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If they added four in the West, it could look like this:

East: Kentucky, Carolina, Florida, Georgia
TN/AL: Tennessee, Alabama, Auburn, Vandy
West: LSU, Arky, Ole Miss, MSU
Big XII: new teams

if it's two from the Big XII and two from the ACC, it really depends on which ACC teams we have.
 
#165
#165
Nah, if they add 2 Big 12 teams to the west, 2 ACC teams will be added to the East.

East: Georiga, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Clemson, Georiga Tech
West: Alabama, Arkansas, LSU, MSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas A@M, ??? I don't think OU. Maybe Texas Tech.
 
#166
#166
UTK said:
Nah, if they add 2 Big 12 teams to the west, 2 ACC teams will be added to the East.
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But two static 8 team divisions means that you never play anyone from the other division. It's like scheduling a championship game between the Big Eight and SWC and calling it one conference. terrible idea, imo.
 
#167
#167
I actually do not want expansion, not that my phone is ringing for the purpose of asking my opinion. I think the confrence is big enough. I kind of think of it like government, the bigger it is, the worse it will operate.
 
#170
#170
Haven't read the entire thread, but if 2 Big 12 teams joined the SEC like Oklahoma and TA&M wouldn't they want to add them to the West Division and move a team(s) to the East division? Like Alabama and Auburn? The problem then becomes the East is overloaded with talent and the West is relatively weak.
 
#171
#171
I've said this before, and I know it sounds nuts, but protecting some of the traditional rivalries could lead to a team like Arkansas moving to the East. Keeps all the cross-divisional rivalries going, and even adds a new one (Ark vs. A&M).
 
#172
#172
bamawriter said:
I've said this before, and I know it sounds nuts, but protecting some of the traditional rivalries could lead to a team like Arkansas moving to the East. Keeps all the cross-divisional rivalries going, and even adds a new one (Ark vs. A&M).
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Arkansas would fight that tooth and nail if it meant they'd lose the LSU rivalry.
 
#173
#173
UTK said:
Nah, if they add 2 Big 12 teams to the west, 2 ACC teams will be added to the East.

East: Georiga, Florida, Tennessee, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, South Carolina, Clemson, Georiga Tech
West: Alabama, Arkansas, LSU, MSU, Ole Miss, Auburn, Texas A@M, ??? I don't think OU. Maybe Texas Tech.
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Couldn't you just do north south instead of east west?

That would let u keep bama and lose florida - which wasnt a rivalry anyway until recently
 
#174
#174
Incipient said:
Arkansas would fight that tooth and nail if it meant they'd lose the LSU rivalry.
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Arkansas-LSU only became a "rivalry" when the conference expanded, and they only came up with that stupid "boot" in '96. Arkansas has a much longer history with A&M.
 
#175
#175
SIAP.

I am not so sure that it's out of the realm of possibility that the NCAA puts the kibosh on the Texas network as it may give an unfair advantage in recruiting. The 'AA has already precluded them from showing high school games for that reason. Think what a great selling point it is to be able to tell a recruit, "Hey kid, we have our own freakin' network. No matter who we play, you are guaranteed to be on TV."?
 
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