Third Saturday and SEC Expansion

#177
#177
COOKEVOL said:
SIAP.

I am not so sure that it's out of the realm of possibility that the NCAA puts the kibosh on the Texas network as it may give an unfair advantage in recruiting. The 'AA has already precluded them from showing high school games for that reason. Think what a great selling point it is to be able to tell a recruit, "Hey kid, we have our own freakin' network. No matter who we play, you are guaranteed to be on TV."?
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The NCAA hasn't nixed it, the conference voted to shelve it for a year. ESPN has way too much invested in that network to not get what they want. TLN will show high school games within the next few years, without a doubt.
 
#178
#178
tvolsfan said:
I don't think either team would fight it much at all. It's not really a rivalry.
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I thought that Arkansas fans pretty well hated LSU. And it's sure been rivalry-like in that it always seems to come down to the wire, no matter how good the teams are.

But if they really wouldn't care, then I stand corrected.
 
#179
#179
Incipient said:
I thought that Arkansas fans pretty well hated LSU. And it's sure been rivalry-like in that it always seems to come down to the wire, no matter how good the teams are.

But if they really wouldn't care, then I stand corrected.
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I may have downplayed it too much, but I don't think it's a real rivalry.

It seems LSU plays close games with everyone.
 
#182
#182
Everyone assumes they'll stay east west. No reason for there not to be realignment w nongeographical divisions to help preserve rivalries.
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#183
#183
If they are wanting to get some of the big dogs then pick a date. I ain't drivin to texas or oklahoma every other year. SO unless UT thinks they can recruit more of their fans than they can of our high schoolers whats the point.
 
#184
#184
Placing Bama, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, S.Carolina, Kentucky, & Vandy in the same conference just to accomodate OU & ATM would be rediculous. That's not anywhere close to a balanced conference. Those teams have 4 BCS titles between them. More than the B10 or P10 combined.

LSU or OU would win the west almost every year under that scenario. And the top 4 in the east would kill each other annually ensuring that none of them ever appeared in a MNC. And how long till Jerry Jones is demanding the SEC-CG rotate between ATL & Dallas? No thanks. I like our conference just fine the way it is, South & Eastern. Adding Arkansas was awkward enough.
 
#185
#185
Voldemonium said:
Placing Bama, Tennessee, Florida, Georgia, S.Carolina, Kentucky, & Vandy in the same conference just to accomodate OU & ATM would be rediculous. That's not anywhere close to a balanced conference. Those teams have 4 BCS titles between them. More than the B10 or P10 combined.

LSU or OU would win the west almost every year under that scenario. And the top 4 in the east would kill each other annually ensuring that none of them ever appeared in a MNC. And how long till Jerry Jones is demanding the SEC-CG rotate between ATL & Dallas? No thanks. I like our conference just fine the way it is, South & Eastern. Adding Arkansas was awkward enough.
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Forgot Auburn
 
#186
#186
stevenharvey11 said:
Louisiana isn't either, really. Arkansas, probably isn't considered south east either.
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You are right about Arkansas. LSU has been in conference too long to not consider them SEC. Straying too far west of the Mississippi is just wrong.
 
#187
#187
tri_vol said:
4 divisions of four really makes the most sense.
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Then what would you call those 4 divisions? North, South, East, and West? Sorry, but anything called North SEC is just anti southern to the core.
 
#188
#188
Incipient said:
But two static 8 team divisions means that you never play anyone from the other division. It's like scheduling a championship game between the Big Eight and SWC and calling it one conference. terrible idea, imo.
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Huh? Not exactly. You'd have 3 non conference games, and play 2 teams from the other division = 9 conference games. You could keep one rival from the other side, just means...you'd play 1 new team from the other division every 2 years which is not very good. 10 conference games would be needed, and that may be too many.
 
#189
#189
UTK said:
Huh? Not exactly. You'd have 3 non conference games, and play 2 teams from the other division = 9 conference games. You could keep one rival from the other side, just means...you'd play 1 new team from the other division every 2 years which is not very good. 10 conference games would be needed, and that may be too many.
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I was exaggerating a bit, but I think you get my point. Even if you expand to 9 conference games, you're only playing your non-rivals from the other division once every SEVEN years. That's ridiculous.
 
#190
#190
I think it'll be dubbed a "protected conference game". I mean, it's the only SECW matchup we regularly have season after season anyways.
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#191
#191
Sith Vol said:
I think it'll be dubbed a "protected conference game". I mean, it's the only SECW matchup we regularly have season after season anyways.
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The question is what happens if Auburn is moved to the East. Then Auburn/Alabama may become the protected conference game, and we'll be left out in the cold.
 
#192
#192
Incipient said:
The question is what happens if Auburn is moved to the East. Then Auburn/Alabama may become the protected conference game, and we'll be left out in the cold.
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Honestly can't imagine SEC splitting them up, but that would probably happen if so.
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#194
#194
bamawriter said:
That would present another problem. While most of AU's historical rivals are in the East (the one exception being Alabama), most of Bama's historical rivals are in the West (the exception being Tennessee, and UGA to a much lesser extent). Bama has long-running rivalries with LSU, Ole Miss, and MSU (MSU is our most-often played rival).
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That reminds me of a story Jerry Clower told when he played against Alabama lol.
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#195
#195
I would be more for kicking Arkansas out and grabbing a Carolina or Virginia school.
 
#198
#198
When I first heard about the superconference, adding Clemson, FSU, Oklahoma, and aTm, they were talking about creating a new division, like the Ivy League. Only with all-sports teams that you'd actually want to watch. How would that change your traditional rivalry scenario?
 
#199
#199
If and when they change it, in 50 years no one will remember what the fuss was about. As far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier although it woudn't bother me to drop KY and Vandy. I dont' dislike those teams. I just hate playing someone that is essentially a guaranteed win. I'd rather lose to AL by 1 than beat either of those two by a dozen.
 
#200
#200
wfd53 said:
If and when they change it, in 50 years no one will remember what the fuss was about. As far as I'm concerned, the more the merrier although it woudn't bother me to drop KY and Vandy. I dont' dislike those teams. I just hate playing someone that is essentially a guaranteed win. I'd rather lose to AL by 1 than beat either of those two by a dozen.
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Vandy's a charter member and Kentucky brings in too much money in basketball.

They won't add, subtact, multiply or divide the conference on football alone.
 
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