This is not normal: Trump's tweet storm

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BowlBrother85 said:
It is hard to believe that someone who earns their living on a television network that fancies itself for covering "news", would ever say that the "media is the enemy of the people" or words to the effect that a free press which serves as a check and balance on government leadership is somehow hurting people's lives. Fox News has no business pretending to be some kind of watchdog on the Washington DC press corps. They are too close to this president to cover him with any degree of objectivity.
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Especially when they are all in line for jobs there.

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McDad said:
Interesting. I see the document itself as almost radical in protection of individual liberty. That feels right to me ...if you'll pardon the pun.
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I actually think individual liberty has become a centrist philosophy in America. Neither the “right” nor the “left” is actively governing on that basis.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Well, the Forrestal post you just liked is one of those conspiracies.

I get it. You hate McCain and spit on his corpse, but that story is slander.
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Who doesn't love a good slice of slander against a member of the political ruling class?
 
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McDad said:
Who doesn't love a good slice of slander against a member of the political ruling class?
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Sir, I think it's been established by a certain mod that any negative meme or comment about a leftist or one of their darlings must be 100% correct to include spelling and grammar. Learn it and live by it!
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I actually think individual liberty has become a centrist philosophy in America. Neither the “right” nor the “left” is actively governing on that basis.
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Just imagine if all governments measured it's decisions with individual liberty as its main focus.
 
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hog88 said:
Just imagine if all governments measured it's decisions with individual liberty as its main focus.
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I think that’s how we should do it but short of some Supreme Court justices, I’m not sure we’ve got anybody left in our federal government who does that.

I’m not very well informed about other countries but I’m curious if there is any government that does this?

Canada? Germany?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
I think that’s how we should do it but short of some Supreme Court justices, I’m not sure we’ve got anybody left in our federal government who does that.

I’m not very well informed about other countries but I’m curious if there is any government that does this?

Canada? Germany?
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No, I don't think so.
 
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hog88 said:
Sir, I think it's been established by a certain mod that any negative meme or comment about a leftist or one of their darlings must be 100% correct to include spelling and grammar. Learn it and live by it!
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This is a somewhat nuanced issue, IMO.

McCain was a Republican that supported good policy even if it meant personal loss, like the law that Citizens United struck down. He was someone that both sides respected because he voted on principle and not down party lines (which is something that would be required of way more than 1 guy if a utopian individual liberty government is an actual ideal).

His Obamacare vote in August 2017 was 100% consistent with the above qualities. I’m not a fan of Obamacare, and I never have been, but this administration has shown time and time again that they don’t have the capacity to dictate clear expectations or policy guidelines to Congress. You saw it with the tax bill which was largely hammered out by Ryan and McConnel and you saw it with the wall and the emergency declarations where republicans reach a compromise and think they’ve satisfied Trump and he comes out and says no I’ve changed my mind. What they were planning to do was to remove a significant portion of regulatiory code regarding health insurance and they had no plan for how to fix it. It would have been a complete disaster for the Republican Party, they would have gotten absolutely destroyed in the 2018 midterms where they already got abused by the idea that they wanted to take away healthcare.

The reason he gets defended by the left, I assume, is because he was respected, and it’s sad to see people denigrate a respectable man in favor of somebody like Donald Trump. The fact that so many are so ready to choose Trump over McCain and to believe easily disprovable ******** like that meme is support for the liberal/never trump theory that Trump is having a negative impact on basic human decency and supports the idea that that harm will continue beyond his presidency.

Edit- this was in response to your post but not necessarily saying you’re in this boat. There are valid policy reasons to disagree with McCain, although the presumed validity of those reasons may be called into question by the fact that somebody is obviously resorting to pure fiction to try to make him into some sort of evil monster, rather than addressing his actual legacy.
 
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