This is why I respect Boise State and Chris Petersen

[FREE EARL]

Boise doesn't want to join a big time conference. If they have to adhere to the same admission requirements that everyone else in a big conference has to, the pipeline to Cali is done.

Boise's done a great job getting their name out and about. They've rode a win over an Oklahoma team as far they can in my eyes. I want them to play an LSU or Alabama or Nebraska or Wisconsin or an Ohio State team. I really do because I truly believe Boise gets demolished by any of those teams.

TCU is a more physical team. I like their chances a whole hell of a lot more than a Boise State.

Boise State can't get an offer from big time conferences due to their poor academics and overall ineptitude in sports that aren't football. Isn't the same case with TCU, who, if given the opportunity, could possibly be a success in a major conference. I'd love for the SEC to offer the Horned Frogs. :yes:

 

[justingroves]

Boise State can't get an offer from big time conferences due to their poor academics and overall ineptitude in sports that aren't football. Isn't the same case with TCU, who, if given the opportunity, could possibly be a success in a major conference. I'd love for the SEC to offer the Horned Frogs. :yes:

So you're saying that TCU is a better program than Boise?

 

[TOP]

This statement is pure stupidity. The two BCS bowl wins, one over Oklahoma, doesn't count? Give me a break.

I assume he is referring to the fashion in which it was done.

TCU beat the #5 ranked team on the road by 40 points. Utah had won 23 in a row at home.

Boise State beat Oklahoma on a neutral field and needed trick plays in the final seconds.

TCU's dominance was more impressive imo.

 

[TOP]

I'd say beating Utah 47-7 on the road is arguably more impressive than beating an Oklahoma team by jumping out to a big league, blowing it in about 8 minutes, and winning with a bunch of trick plays.

I missed this.

 

[TOP]

And has also beaten everyone else on their schedule. It's an obvious fallacy to reduce each team to the worst opponent that they have lost to.


Who is TCU's Virginia Tech (BCS conference team likely to win their conference)?

Why did Boise State beat a common BCS opponent, Oregon State, by a larger margin than TCU?

Like I said, there really isn't a logical way to argue FOR TCU over Boise State. They're pretty damn equal on paper, with Boise State getting the slight nod.

That's not hypocritical at all...

 

[TOP]

See, this is what I don't understand about all this "BSU sucks until they play anybody" argument. Who says this is completely their decision? Name one conference that has come up and said "We want Boise in our family". It is absurd to think Boise can just say that they want to play in the PAC 10 and then it is so.

Again, name one thing Boise has complete control over that they haven't done yet.

Shatel: Where’s the beef? Future NU schedules - Omaha.com

Nebraska called. Nebraska tried.

In the past year, NU tried to put together a series with BSU; two-for-one, home-and-home, one-way trip to Lincoln. Whatever. It ended up fizzling out. Why?

Because, according to NU Assistant Athletic Director Jeff Jamrog, Boise wanted a minimum $1 million to play in Lincoln.

There is your answer. Boise State demands teams to come play in front of 30,000 on a blue field or they demand teams to pay them 1 million dollars to travel.

They had a chance to play Nebraska three times but kept demanding more. Newsflash... Major universities don't need Boise State. They already play quality opponents. Boise State doesn't play quality opponents and they have no right to demand anything. They're the ones complaining about getting left out in the cold after going 12-0. They're the ones complaining that nobody wants to play them. People try to schedule them but they make ridiculous demands as if they have some sort of leverage. They have none, period.

 

[FREE EARL]

So you're saying that TCU is a better program than Boise?

No, I'm saying TCU is the superior institution.

 

[FREE EARL]

I assume he is referring to the fashion in which it was done.

TCU beat the #5 ranked team on the road by 40 points. Utah had won 23 in a row at home.

Boise State beat Oklahoma on a neutral field and needed trick plays in the final seconds.

TCU's dominance was more impressive imo.

Lol @ comparing Utah to Oklahoma.

And I've asked this once. Who really thought Utah was the 5th best team in the nation?

 

[cotton]

Again, name one thing Boise has complete control over that they haven't done yet.

What does complete control have to do with anything? They are, like everyone else, ultimately at the mercy of the voters and the robots.

 

[TOP]

Lol @ comparing Utah to Oklahoma.

And I've asked this once. Who really thought Utah was the 5th best team in the nation?

Yeah, lol at Utah. I bet 12-1 Alabama didn't think they were the 6th best team in the country at the time either. Then the first quarter ended and they were down 21-0.

Utah and Wittingham are awful.

 

[hatvol96]

Everyone keeps exalting Boise's win over OU. Take a look at who the last team to beat the Sooners in Norman was.

 

[hatvol96]

Lol @ comparing Utah to Oklahoma.

And I've asked this once. Who really thought Utah was the 5th best team in the nation?

They aren't the fifth best team in the country. That said, I'm pretty sure they could handle James Madison if the Dukes traveled to Salt Lake City.

 

[FREE EARL]

Yeah, lol at Utah. I bet 12-1 Alabama didn't think they were the 6th best team in the country at the time either. Then the first quarter ended and they were down 21-0.

Utah and Wittingham are awful.

Yeah, and Florida's headed to the national championship.

 

[FREE EARL]

They aren't the fifth best team in the country. That said, I'm pretty sure they could handle James Madison if the Dukes traveled to Salt Lake City.

TCU's win over Utah was more impressive than BSU's win over Va Tech. Ok?

 

[TOP]

Yeah, and Florida's headed to the national championship.

Utah was 8-0 and won 23 in a row at home. Beating Utah 47-7 is more impressive than scraping by VT. Fact.

TCU has been better this year. I know you have a hard on for BSU but you're wrong. Aside from almost everyone here disagreeing with you, both the BCS and AP polls disagree with you as well.

 

[FREE EARL]

Utah was 8-0 and won 23 in a row at home. Beating Utah 47-7 is more impressive than scraping by VT. Fact.

I've said that.

TCU has been better this year. I know you have a hard on for BSU but you're wrong. Aside from almost everyone here disagreeing with you, both the BCS and AP polls disagree with you as well.

Wrong about what? I haven't argued it much either way. I'm indifferent for the most part. I like Chris Petersen so I posted the article.

I think BSU is a better football team than TCU, but I don't care enough to argue it.

 

[IPorange]

I've been arguing that there is no distinguishing fact between TCU and BSU. I don't have a "hard on" for BSU at all. I just don't have any kind of weird hate or whatever that some have developed.

People can knock Virginia Tech using the transitive property of their other loss all they want. The fact remains that they're winning the ACC, a BCS conference, and BSU beat them straight up.

This is one step more direct than Utah beating a team, and then TCU beating Utah.

 

[FREE EARL]

I've been arguing that there is no distinguishing fact between TCU and BSU. I don't have a "hard on" for BSU at all. I just don't have any kind of weird hate or whatever that some have developed.

People can knock Virginia Tech using the transitive property of their other loss all they want. The fact remains that they're winning the ACC, a BCS conference, and BSU beat them straight up.

This is one step more direct than Utah beating a team, and then TCU beating Utah.

This.

But I guess, if you aren't bashing BSU, you "have a hard on for them".

 

[tvolsfan]

As I said earlier, Utah beat Pitt, whose unbeaten in a BCS conference, but there's no argument that Utah is better than VT?

 

[IPorange]

As I said earlier, Utah beat Pitt, whose unbeaten in a BCS conference, but there's no argument that Utah is better than VT?

Utah lost a game to TCU. You're using the obvious fallacy of the sports "transitive property."

"Utah beat Pitt, and TCU beat Utah. therefore, TCU beat Pitt."

It doesn't work that way. Otherwise, someone should let Kentucky know that they beat Alabama.

 

[milohimself]

I could be wrong -- often am -- but as I watch BSU it still seems to me that they would be thrashed by an Alabama or Auburn, and probably lose to an LSU, Florida, or South Carolina by a wide margin. Certainly, if they played an SEC schedule they'd have more than a few losses every year.
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I would agree with you most of the time, but the SEC is just plain not that good this year. I mean, a mediocre team with just a good QB and a lousy defense is poised to run through unbeaten and win the whole thing.

 

[tvolsfan]

Utah lost a game to TCU. You're using the obvious fallacy of the sports "transitive property."

"Utah beat Pitt, and TCU beat Utah. therefore, TCU beat Pitt."

It doesn't work that way. Otherwise, someone should let Kentucky know that they beat Alabama.

I'm not arguing that TCU beat Pitt, I'm arguing that their win over Utah was more impressive than Boise's win over VT.

 

[IPorange]

I'm not arguing that TCU beat Pitt, I'm arguing that their win over Utah was more impressive than Boise's win over VT.

I don't see it. Any argument you could make against BSU's schedule and TCU's schedule you could make against Utah's. BSU directly beating a likely BCS conference champion after traveling 3,000 miles is a hell of a lot more impressive than TCU beating a conference rival that they beat last year.

 

[DynamiteMcGhee]

As I said earlier, Utah beat Pitt, whose unbeaten in a BCS conference, but there's no argument that Utah is better than VT?

Pitt is unbeaten in the weakest BCS conference there is (not a single ranked team). When Utah plays and beats VT, then you can say Utah is better.

 

[tvolsfan]

I don't see it. Any argument you could make against BSU's schedule and TCU's schedule you could make against Utah's. BSU directly beating a likely BCS conference champion after traveling 3,000 miles is a hell of a lot more impressive than TCU beating a conference rival that they beat last year.

I may agree if they both one a nail biter. For me, the travel distance doesn't make up for the margin of victory when discussing the more impressive wins.