Thompson Lobbied For Abortion Group After All

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CSpindizzy said:
Actually that's one person's argument. I've never said ALL. I've never said all in this so technically there shouldn't be an argument. Hat said that an overwhelming majority would argue the other side if the money was good. I'd like to know his percentage of overwhelming majority. I'd like to see some examples of those arguing abortion before SCOTUS and see who actually would switch sides.
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I can tell you that if the proponents on each side are using "passion" in their attorney screening process, they absolutely deserve what they get.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Actually that's one person's argument. I've never said ALL. I've never said all in this so technically there shouldn't be an argument. Hat said that an overwhelming majority would argue the other side if the money was good. I'd like to know his percentage of overwhelming majority. I'd like to see some examples of those arguing abortion before SCOTUS and see who actually would switch sides.
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Given that a huge number of the attorneys who appear before the Supreme Court on abortion issues are state's attorneys defending the constitutionality of various statutes, and the vast majority of those guys end up in private practice, you start out with a large percentage right there.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I can tell you that if the proponents on each side are using "passion" in their attorney screening process, they absolutely deserve what they get.
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If they are using it as a sole factor, yes. I think most people that end up being great in their respective field have "passion" for what they do.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I can tell you that if the proponents on each side are using "passion" in their attorney screening process, they absolutely deserve what they get.
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Tell that to W. Who were his lawyers in the 2000 election? Those who also shared his ideology. I guess he deserved what he got.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I can tell you that if the proponents on each side are using "passion" in their attorney screening process, they absolutely deserve what they get.
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As a law professor of mine once so eloquently said, "Impassioned rhetoric cannot take the place of sound legal reasoning." When you value passion over intellect, you get the geniuses from Pat Robertson U. who have turned the Justice Department into a car wreck.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Given that a huge number of the attorneys who appear before the Supreme Court on abortion issues are state's attorneys defending the constitutionality of various statutes, and the vast majority of those guys end up in private practice, you start out with a large percentage right there.
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Well let's see. You've described half of those who argue opinions before the court. Forget about those on the other side?
 
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hatvol96 said:
As a law professor of mine once so eloquently said, "Impassioned rhetoric cannot take the place of sound legal reasoning." When you value passion over intellect, you get the geniuses from Pat Robertson U. who have turned the Justice Department into a car wreck.
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He must have been one of Gore's lawyers in 2000.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Tell that to W. Who were his lawyers in the 2000 election? Those who also shared his ideology. I guess he deserved what he got.
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I noticed he didn't let the retards from Pat Robertson U. he is so fond of hiring to work in Justice to argue his election contest cases.
 
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allvol123 said:
If they are using it as a sole factor, yes. I think most people that end up being great in their respective field have "passion" for what they do.
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having a passion for the law and its practice are a far cry from being passionate about the minutiae of the specific cases they're handling
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Well let's see. You've described half of those who argue opinions before the court. Forget about those on the other side?
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Most of whom work for firms retained by Planned Parenthood, etc. If a client with more money comes along, those firms, so long as they can avoid an actual conflict, will gladly take them on.
 
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Winning attorneys are often those who can entirely remove any and all hints of emotion from their approach to the case. The impassioned made for TV plea to the bewildered jury is bunk. Great attorneys are very measured and almost cruelly calculating.
 
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Firms yeah. But we are talking about actual lawyers and their ideolgy and selling out their views for money.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Winning attorneys are often those who can entirely remove any and all hints of emotion from their approach to the case. The impassioned made for TV plea to the bewildered jury is bunk. Great attorneys are very measured and almost cruelly calculating.
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Bingo.
 
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hatvol96 said:
The 2000 election contest was an easy case for the Bush side. It's not as if Florida law was ambiguous on who had the final say in certifying election results.
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I'm not talking about ease. I'm talking about who was on the legal team....for both sides for that matter.
 
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CSpindizzy said:
I'm not talking about ease. I'm talking about who was on the legal team....for both sides for that matter.
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Look at Bob Bennett's client list. That will tell you all you need to know about who wins the battle between political ideology and cash flow in the minds of most legal professionals.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Winning attorneys are often those who can entirely remove any and all hints of emotion from their approach to the case. The impassioned made for TV plea to the bewildered jury is bunk. Great attorneys are very measured and almost cruelly calculating.
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Not to point out the obvious but having a strong belief in the cause and showing emotion in a case are two different items here. I can believe in the cause and understand every detail of it but not let my emotions get the best of me and interfere with my abilities to argue my side. You're pointing out two different things here.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Look at Bob Bennett's client list. That will tell you all you need to know about who wins the battle between political ideology and cash flow in the minds of most legal professionals.
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Would Bennett have argued for Gore in that case? One person....where's the overwhelming list?
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Firms yeah. But we are talking about actual lawyers and their ideolgy and selling out their views for money.
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Firms are made up of actual attorneys. Most attorneys I know, myself included, have argued contadictory theories of law in front of the same judge within a week.
 
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hatvol96 said:
Firms are made up of actual attorneys. Most attorneys I know, myself included, have argued contadictory theories of law in front of the same judge within a week.
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How many staunchly political people in your firm argue political cases for the other side?
 
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CSpindizzy said:
Would Bennett have argued for Gore in that case? One person....where's the overwhelming list?
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If he were an election law expert and the money was right? Yes? Do you want a list of every defense attorney who has ever been a prosecutor? Every EPA lawyer who has gone to work for Dow Chemicals?
 
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