Thoughts About The End Of the Trump Reign

#77
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calban said:
Daca, Muslin Ban
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Neither were racist..... what about the peace deals he worked with countries in the Middle East.... there were several excuses that he could have used to bomb those countries and he held back the majority of the time.
 
#78
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volbeast33 said:
Neither were racist..... what about the peace deals he worked with countries in the Middle East.... there were several excuses that he could have used to bomb those countries and he held back the majority of the time.
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Those peace deals are all about money and will fall apart once that goes away. Nice to put on a resume I guess but essentially worthless
 
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MontyPython said:
Heh. Pass what? ACA is the law of the land. Obamacare is here to stay given the apparent 'pass' by SCOTUS. The only issue in play I'm aware of is the individual mandate which now diverges between state and federal locales.
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You are clueless. Bidencare was a major issue during the campaign. He does not plan to leave healthcare alone like there aren't big problems. There are big problems with what's left of Obamacare. If that's the only issue you're aware of then you're clueless
 
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calban said:
Trump and his family were documented as racist as far back as 1970 when they were sued for not allowing blacks to rent their properties. What minority has he not impacted in a negative way since he's been in office?
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What an absurd question.
 
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calban said:
Trump and his family were documented as racist as far back as 1970 when they were sued for not allowing blacks to rent their properties. What minority has he not impacted in a negative way since he's been in office?
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Now it's his whole family huh. I'll make it simple. Daca isn't racist, and muslim isn't a race. He banned travel from certain countries that are 100% terrorist training grounds. That's not racist, it's smart. Biden literally has said from his own mouth racist stuff, they've been posted, but I can share them again. What has trump said that was racist? Simple question.
 
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joevol33 said:
Now it's his whole family huh. I'll make it simple. Daca isn't racist, and muslim isn't a race. He banned travel from certain countries that are 100% terrorist training grounds. That's not racist, it's smart. Biden literally has said from his own mouth racist stuff, they've been posted, but I can share them again. What has trump said that was racist? Simple question.
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Don't let facts confuse these people. They can only handle emotion and stories. Facts confuse them
 
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volbeast33 said:
Neither were racist..... what about the peace deals he worked with countries in the Middle East.... there were several excuses that he could have used to bomb those countries and he held back the majority of the time.
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The anti-war (or whatever you want to call it) narrative about Trump is false. He was playing 3 card monte.

He made deals but he also welched on deals. He scaled back in places but scaled up elsewhere. Yeah, he can technically say no new wars but that's just a really nice way of saying he maintained an unsustainable status quo, after pretending for 5 years that he was different.

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utvolpj said:
Those peace deals are all about money and will fall apart once that goes away. Nice to put on a resume I guess but essentially worthless
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I actually think the peace deals came about as a result of his unintelligible foreign policy. Nobody knew whether he would nuke Iran or leave them alone while they instigated crap with everybody in the region. Without ‘Murica looking over their shoulder, some of the oil producing nations had to stop being complacent and actually work towards some contingencies.

Say what you want about whether this is 4D chess or just a happy accident of bugling incompetence, but that’s what I think happened.

They may well fall apart under a more predictable Biden admin that projects power but, tbh, after this election was decided by something like 60,000 votes in AZ, NV, WI, and GA, any country making dramatic foreign policy shifts based on predictability of US politics is out of their minds.
 
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utvolpj said:
Are you saying a household making 6 figures a year for decades is unlikely to retire with millions? You think that's BS?
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People don't understand compound interest. $100k in an index fund in 1970 would be over $100m now.
 
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utvolpj said:
Are you saying a person making 6 figures a year for decades is unlikely to retire with millions? You think that's BS?
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Senators didn't cross the 6 figure mark until 1991 and his highest salary as a Senator was $165K. He's managed his money extremely well considering his lifestyle.......
 
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joevol33 said:
Now it's his whole family huh. I'll make it simple. Daca isn't racist, and muslim isn't a race. He banned travel from certain countries that are 100% terrorist training grounds. That's not racist, it's smart. Biden literally has said from his own mouth racist stuff, they've been posted, but I can share them again. What has trump said that was racist? Simple question.
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The travel ban was total BS. There was no good reason for it, except misguided fears. It didn't even include Saudi Arabia. It was supposed to be for 90 days so he could improve safety precautions in the process, which he never did, nor did he ever explain what was wrong with the process (that had been working just fine). We ended up fighting about it in court and wasting money and time and energy. Complete ineptitude in every way by our government, playing with people's lives.

DACA kids have over 70% support and overwhelming support on both sides but Trump went after them because why? Maybe not racist but what is the explanation, other than being anti-immigrant?

Both cases are clear examples of bad government targeting people that are different from us. I can't prove that it's based on bigotry, but there is a very good chance it's at play.
 
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hog88 said:
When he first took office Senators made $42k per year.
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I was using simple math as an example, we can tweak the numbers and still illustrate the point. If he banked just $10k in 1970 and never invested again, that's over $10m.
 
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hog88 said:
Senators didn't cross the 6 figure mark until 1991 and his highest salary as a Senator was $165K. He's managed his money extremely well considering his lifestyle.......
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He and his wife worked. I know how my family is doing financially and see this as completely probable without the "china money"
 
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n_huffhines said:
The travel ban was total BS. There was no good reason for it, except misguided fears. It didn't even include Saudi Arabia. It was supposed to be for 90 days so he could improve safety precautions in the process, which he never did, nor did he ever explain what was wrong with the process (that had been working just fine). We ended up fighting about it in court and wasting money and time and energy. Complete ineptitude in every way by our government, playing with people's lives.

DACA kids have over 70% support and overwhelming support on both sides but Trump went after them because why? Maybe not racist but what is the explanation, other than being anti-immigrant?

Both cases are clear examples of bad government targeting people that are different from us. I can't prove that it's based on bigotry, but there is a very good chance it's at play.
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DACA is not a White House issue. It should be dealt with legislatively. Obama knew that he did not have the constitutional authority to legalize DACA kids and the courts did indeed shoot him down:

DACA Is Unconstitutional, as Obama Admitted

All Trump did was enforce existing immigration laws passed by Congress. It's up to Congress to pass immigration reform and deal with this. In the meantime, don't blame any White House for enforcing current laws. It's what they're constitutionally obligated to do. It's not racist to do what the Constitution forces you to do
 
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