Thoughts on Hopson

#26
#26
LawVol13 said:
Try reading, genius. I clearly state I blame your buddies for Hopson's lack of mental toughness. But don't worry, lard ass will get to redeem himself at Craphole Community College real soon.
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Even the worst comics come up with some new material every now and then.
 
#27
#27
Also, anytime you want to say that the coaches fail with players, take one good look at Brian Williams. He is playing as well as any big man in the league. Who saw that coming.
 
#28
#28
Why is it the coaches fault that Scotty had a bad 1st half? He did redeem himself in the 2nd half but its not always somebodys fault when someone struggles for a half.Just have to lay blame to the coaching staff for every players sporadic play is grasping at straws.He has spurts of brilliance and is as athletic as anyone on the court.I think he is his own worst enemy when he starts to struggle and gets down on himself.We lost last night because Florida shot 82% in the second half and all you can do is take your hat off to their team for shooying lights out in a neutral arena/dome.
 
#29
#29
tvols75 said:
But who are you going to put in? You have to admit the staff made it a point to sit him the last two days moreso then they have this entire year because of the attitude, especially the first half and the beginning of the 2nd half Thursday.
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It's too late to start playing disciplinarian now. Hopson is what he is, and we'll just have to deal with it.
 
#30
#30
LawVol13 said:
It's too late to start playing disciplinarian now. Hopson is what he is, and we'll just have to deal with it.
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From SEC play last year to the end of this year, Pearl has been all over Hopson. He benched him last year, if I remember correctly, and then came out blazing to get it back. He chewed his ass out this year and then Hopson went on that tear in the SEC. Also, has been calling him out more in his press conferences.

It's not like it's a rare occurrence for him to do this. It's the fact that we don't have anyone that we can put in for Hopson that would make up for what he does (which is when he is struggling, he at least demands attention so Tobias can score).
 
#31
#31
tvols75 said:
From SEC play last year to the end of this year, Pearl has been all over Hopson. He benched him last year, if I remember correctly, and then came out blazing to get it back. He chewed his ass out this year and then Hopson went on that tear in the SEC. Also, has been calling him out more in his press conferences.

It's not like it's a rare occurrence for him to do this. It's the fact that we don't have anyone that we can put in for Hopson that would make up for what he does (which is when he is struggling, he at least demands attention so Tobias can score).
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Exactly This ^
 
#32
#32
tvols75 said:
From SEC play last year to the end of this year, Pearl has been all over Hopson. He benched him last year, if I remember correctly, and then came out blazing to get it back. He chewed his ass out this year and then Hopson went on that tear in the SEC. Also, has been calling him out more in his press conferences.

It's not like it's a rare occurrence for him to do this. It's the fact that we don't have anyone that we can put in for Hopson that would make up for what he does (which is when he is struggling, he at least demands attention so Tobias can score).
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Again, trying this stuff 2 or 3 years after he's on campus isn't going to work. My criticism of Pearl is that playing lazy shouldn't have been an option from day 1. And it clearly was.
 
#33
#33
LawVol13 said:
Again, trying this stuff 2 or 3 years after he's on campus isn't going to work. My criticism of Pearl is that playing lazy shouldn't have been an option from day 1. And it clearly was.
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I don't recall when he first got here what was done. But the problem is consistent, there is no one on the bench that can take his minutes. That's a coach's problem when it comes to recruiting. I really can't see Pearl not benching Hopson for someone on the bench that has a ton of talent at the same position. However, we haven't had that person on the bench that could even beat out a pouting Hopson.
 
#34
#34
LawVol13 said:
Every single person you just named play significantly harder than Hopson. That's probably because half-assing it isn't an option for those guys, as it is for Hopson.
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I would say Hopson plays harder than Tatum. JMO
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#35
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tvols75 said:
But the problem is consistent, there is no one on the bench that can take his minutes.
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This is exactly Pearl's approach, imo. Hopson's more talented than the next guy, so we'll just put up with it. That's where the problem is.
 
#36
#36
lbrjohn3 said:
I would say Hopson plays harder than Tatum. JMO
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Tatum has absolutely sucked the last part of the season, but it's not an effort issue. He plays significantly harder on both ends of the floor than Hopson.
 
#38
#38
I am curious if fans of other teams are as bi-polar as the University of Tennessee's fans. I don't follow other school's message boards so I don't know if it is something unique to UT or not.

Case in point: last week Scotty Hopson was a volnation consensus NBA lottery/1st round pick. After a rough first half and 7 turnovers against the #1 team in the SEC, Scotty has returned to being a water-brained retard and heartless cry-baby. What gives?

Love or hatred of a player turns on each possession.

I agree with IA Vol.

This junk is getting ponderous.
 
#39
#39
LawVol13 said:
This is exactly Pearl's approach, imo. Hopson's more talented than the next guy, so we'll just put up with it. That's where the problem is.
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That's not his approach, that's just reality. If Hopson is taken out, and McBee or Tatum are in, the double teams are going to be thrown at Tobias. Then who do you have out there that you are confident can score?
 
#41
#41
DyronNix said:
I am curious if fans of other teams are as bi-polar as the University of Tennessee's fans. I don't follow other school's message boards so I don't know if it is something unique to UT or not.

Case in point: last week Scotty Hopson was a volnation consensus NBA lottery/1st round pick. After a rough first half and 7 turnovers against the #1 team in the SEC, Scotty has returned to being a water-brained retard and heartless cry-baby. What gives?

Love or hatred of a player turns on each possession.

I agree with IA Vol.

This junk is getting ponderous.
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For the last time, I'm not criticizing Hopson. I'm criticizing our coaching staff. All players have weaknesses, and our staff has done a pathetic job at addressing Hopson's. Hopson is an elite talent that hasn't been developed as he should have.
 
#42
#42
tvols75 said:
That's not his approach, that's just reality. If Hopson is taken out, and McBee or Tatum are in, the double teams are going to be thrown at Tobias. Then who do you have out there that you are confident can score?
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What I'm saying is: playing hard should always be a prerequisite for seeing the floor. That philosophy shouldn't just change because one guy's got some talent. If he doesn't play hard, his ass should be on the bench whether or not it causes matchup problems for Harris.
 
#43
#43
LawVol13 said:
What I'm saying is: playing hard should always be a prerequisite for seeing the floor. That philosophy shouldn't just change because one guy's got some talent. If he doesn't play hard, his ass should be on the bench whether or not it causes matchup problems for Harris.
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The best chance of winning should be the prerequisite for who sees the floor.
 
#44
#44
LawVol13 said:
For the last time, I'm not criticizing Hopson. I'm criticizing our coaching staff. All players have weaknesses, and our staff has done a pathetic job at addressing Hopson's. Hopson is an elite talent that hasn't been developed as he should have.
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I can't believe I'm wasting my time responding to you again but this staff has worked and worked and worked with Scotty Hopson on his game. And guess what.......He's TEN TIMES the player he was when he stepped foot on campus.

Don't confuse his facial expressions with desire and effort, because I assure you he has plenty. As usual, you cherry pick 1 bad game (in which he scored 17 in the 2nd half) and completely forget how dominant he was the 2nd half of the year. It exposes your agenda so my suggestion is pick a new topic to harp on, this one is played.
 
#45
#45
DyronNix said:
I am curious if fans of other teams are as bi-polar as the University of Tennessee's fans. I don't follow other school's message boards so I don't know if it is something unique to UT or not.

Case in point: last week Scotty Hopson was a volnation consensus NBA lottery/1st round pick. After a rough first half and 7 turnovers against the #1 team in the SEC, Scotty has returned to being a water-brained retard and heartless cry-baby. What gives?

Love or hatred of a player turns on each possession.

I agree with IA Vol.

This junk is getting ponderous.
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It is stupid and why we have to constantly defend our players, coaches and team from our own fans is beyond me. Some on here just want to chest beat like their avatar.They want to call everyone else ignorant for not sharing their hateful attitude toward the program.At least they could post as another teams fan geesh.
 
#46
#46
tvols75 said:
The best chance of winning should be the prerequisite for who sees the floor.
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Again, I think we're kind of arguing in circles. My entire point was: had Hopson been required to play hard his entire career, he would be an All-American. He's that good. Thus, we would be winning more games.

I'll also say this. Pearl has done an excellent job of getting maximum effort out of players. However, he hasn't done that with Hopson. I'll concede Hopson is the exception to the rule with Pearl's players playing hard.
 
#47
#47
LawVol13 said:
Again, I think we're kind of arguing in circles. My entire point was: had Hopson been required to play hard his entire career, he would be an All-American. He's that good. Thus, we would be winning more games.

I'll also say this. Pearl has done an excellent job of getting maximum effort out of players. However, he hasn't done that with Hopson. I'll concede Hopson is the exception to the rule with Pearl's players playing hard.
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How is scoring 17 points in the second half being lazy
 
#50
#50
LawVol13 said:
Again, I think we're kind of arguing in circles. My entire point was: had Hopson been required to play hard his entire career, he would be an All-American. He's that good. Thus, we would be winning more games.

I'll also say this. Pearl has done an excellent job of getting maximum effort out of players. However, he hasn't done that with Hopson. I'll concede Hopson is the exception to the rule with Pearl's players playing hard.
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We pretty much agree. However, Hopson has this attitude because he sees the **** on the bench moreso than the coaches not pushing him. We aren't in practices or in the locker rooms to know what goes on. If Hopson was at a school like Duke or UNC, I guarantee you he wouldn't act like he does because he knows that another McDonald's AA is on the bench waiting to come in for him. That is the only problem I have with the coaching staff when it comes to Scotty, is the fact that we have missed so much on recruiting that we can't motivate Scotty by having players that can come in and put his butt on the bench when he pouts.

There is no way as a coach you go in and sacrifice winning a couple of games because you are trying to prove your point by sitting Hopson. You do what gives you the best chance to win.

Put yourself in Scotty's shoes and have that same attitude. Would your attitude change with the coach chewing your ass out when you know that there is no way you can be on the bench with the crap that is on it?
 
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