Thoughts on Hopson

#77
#77
So when Hopson struggles, its always an effort issue, but when Tatum struggles (which i cant remember the last time he didn't) its always a confidence issue?
 
#79
#79
Unfortunately, basketball's not that simple. If you can't make a shot, no one is going to guard you on the perimeter; thus, when you starting forcing drives, you just charge, which is happening a lot to Tatum.

Tatum doesn't come around screens full force? When is a screen ever set for Tatum? I can't recall one instance this year where a screen was set for Tatum and he received the ball. Not one.

I don't remember a team playing five feet off of Tatum. Despite his miserable funk, they have still guarded him relatively close. He's just not taking the ball to the hole.

I was talking about our half-assed baseline screens, but nobody on the team does it right, so I can't really blame Cam there.
 
#80
#80
So when Hopson struggles, its always an effort issue, but when Tatum struggles (which i cant remember the last time he didn't) its always a confidence issue?

Nope. Even when Hopson plays well and scores, effort's an issue. It's just a weakness in his game; he takes a lot of possessions off defensively. Hopson is clearly the better player; that's not even disputable. Tatum's offensive struggles can be directly traced back to confidence. Shooting 10% from the floor doesn't mean you're loafing. It just means you either suck at shooting or you have no confidence in your shot. There's a reason Cam guards the best perimeter player on the opposing team and Hopson doesn't.
 
#81
#81
I'm still confused. It was one bad game. Granted, it was the SEC Tourney, but other than Tobias, the rest of the team sucked. I would understand the bad attitude.

no its been alot of bad games...have you not watched any games since we lost to Oakland?
 
#82
#82
I don't remember a team playing five feet off of Tatum. Despite his miserable funk, they have still guarded him relatively close. He's just not taking the ball to the hole.

I was talking about our half-assed baseline screens, but nobody on the team does it right, so I can't really blame Cam there.

That's all Tatum has been doing lately. Since it is obvious you do not watch games, Tatum usually passes up open looks to drive to the basket for a tougher look.
 
#83
#83
He absolutely plays harder than Hopson consistently. He just doesn't play well, unfortunately. The better question would be, which player on the team doesn't play harder than Hopson consistently.

You're letting one game where nobody else besides Tobias showed up overshadow what Scotty has done. If you think Hopson doesn't play hard most of the time...I don't know what to tell you.
 
#85
#85
I don't remember a team playing five feet off of Tatum. Despite his miserable funk, they have still guarded him relatively close. He's just not taking the ball to the hole.

I was talking about our half-assed baseline screens, but nobody on the team does it right, so I can't really blame Cam there.

Then you're not watching the game. In the Arkansas game, Cam had numerous, numerous open shots that he turned down and forced a drive. The result: charges. That's why it's not as simple as saying, "oh, you're not shooting well? Just take off to the basket every play then."
 
#86
#86
You're letting one game where nobody else besides Tobias showed up overshadow what Scotty has done. If you think Hopson doesn't play hard most of the time...I don't know what to tell you.

I'm not letting one game do anything. Scotty Hopson has consistently all year taken possessions off defensively, loafed around on offense unless the playcall is specifically designed for him. Hopson has the potential to be an absolutely phenomenal player; I'm not cutting him down. I'm just stating the obvious.
 
#87
#87
Then you're not watching the game. In the Arkansas game, Cam had numerous, numerous open shots that he turned down and forced a drive. The result: charges. That's why it's not as simple as saying, "oh, you're not shooting well? Just take off to the basket every play then."

Cam had two fouls, one offensive. So you mean "charge"?
 
#88
#88
Then you're not watching the game. In the Arkansas game, Cam had numerous, numerous open shots that he turned down and forced a drive. The result: charges. That's why it's not as simple as saying, "oh, you're not shooting well? Just take off to the basket every play then."

Agreed, and I think anyone that has watched Tennessee over the past 2 months agrees as well.
 
#89
#89
I'm not letting one game do anything. Scotty Hopson has consistently all year taken possessions off defensively, loafed around on offense unless the playcall is specifically designed for him. Hopson has the potential to be an absolutely phenomenal player; I'm not cutting him down. I'm just stating the obvious.

You are overstating it. Yeah, I would like for him to go 100% defensively, run everything 100% on offense on cuts, and never take a play off. However, he carries too much of the load offensively to play defense 100%, nobody on the team runs the offense...they all jog through it, and it's hard not to take a play off playing 35 minutes a game with so much of the offensive burden on him.
 
#91
#91
Then you're not watching the game. In the Arkansas game, Cam had numerous, numerous open shots that he turned down and forced a drive. The result: charges. That's why it's not as simple as saying, "oh, you're not shooting well? Just take off to the basket every play then."

There's a difference between passing up open shots for tougher shots and what I'm talking about. When Cam gets the ball when someone is guarding him, he eithers take a dumb three or passes the ball off. He doesn't take the ball to the hole, ever, this year. He did 3-4 times in the Arky game. Where was it in the Florida game when the lane was open because so much attention was to Scotty in the first half?
 
#92
#92
You are overstating it. Yeah, I would like for him to go 100% defensively, run everything 100% on offense on cuts, and never take a play off. However, he carries too much of the load offensively to play defense 100%, nobody on the team runs the offense...they all jog through it, and it's hard not to take a play off playing 35 minutes a game with so much of the offensive burden on him.

Hopson plays 29 minutes a game. If he has to take possessions off defensively to be able to finish a game playing those minutes, then we obviously need to work on our offseason conditioning.
 
#93
#93
There's a difference between passing up open shots for tougher shots and what I'm talking about. When Cam gets the ball when someone is guarding him, he eithers take a dumb three or passes the ball off. He doesn't take the ball to the hole, ever, this year. He did 3-4 times in the Arky game. Where was it in the Florida game when the lane was open because so much attention was to Scotty in the first half?

Hopson was busy turning the ball over time and again. And again, when people don't respect your jumper, the lane's not open.
 
#94
#94
Hopson plays 29 minutes a game. If he has to take possessions off defensively to be able to finish a game playing those minutes, then we obviously need to work on our offseason conditioning.

He has been playing more than 29 minutes the last two weeks.
 
#95
#95
Hopson was busy turning the ball over time and again. And again, when people don't respect your jumper, the lane's not open.

At least Hopson was doing something. Cam just stands around on offense.

Look, we are arguing in circles here. Let's just agree to disagree.
 
#97
#97
And he's taking off possessions defensively just like he did when he wasn't.

I wish he didn't, but he does. Do I think it's a significant problem on this team? No. He still has work to do defensively. Scotty isn't a problem on this team, nor has he been all year.
 
#98
#98
I wish he didn't, but he does. Do I think it's a significant problem on this team? No. He still has work to do defensively. Scotty isn't a problem on this team, nor has he been all year.

He's our best player. I don't dispute that at all. The point of this entire thread was to point out that the staff has done a pathetic job at improving Scotty's weaknesses. And, I have consistently said that I don't blame Hopson for his play. You're a good poster; I didn't mean any disrespect. :hi:
 
#99
#99
He's our best player. I don't dispute that at all. The point of this entire thread was to point out that the staff has done a pathetic job at improving Scotty's weaknesses. And, I have consistently said that I don't blame Hopson for his play. You're a good poster; I didn't mean any disrespect. :hi:

Okay, fair enough. I just think Hopson's effort for last night is getting overblown. JMO.

And no disrespect taken. You have good opinions. :hi:
 
I get a kick out of the talking about an offense. There is no offense. You have to attempt to do something positve with the ball as a team to have an offense. Passing the ball around the perimeter until 10 sec is on the clock and then jacking a 3 or throwing the ball against the backboard on a drive is not an offense. Jogging from one side court to another while the ball is held by the PG is not an offense. But in Pearl's world it is called the 'flex offense." Cracks me up! It's offensive to call it an offense.

Let's just say it the way it is, Scotty acts like a middle schooler with his baby attitude. He even plays like one on defense. Let's also give credit to Williams for many of his good drives in the half court since he walls off one or two defenders for Scotty to get to the basket.
 

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