Time to do something about schedules

#76
#76
AustinMem said:
Not only that but you end up with stories like NIU, Memphis, and Georgia State (well maybe this one is more of a push), and that is just from so far this season.
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This. It''s the college football equivalent of a 14-15 seed upsetting a 2 seed in the NCAAT. Sure most of the times the higher seed wins and wins easily but every now and then an upset happens or at least a scare. That's why they play them.

Well that and the $1 million.
 
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northknoxvol said:
if you cant make it on your own, then fold football and play soccer, That qb from last night looked like he should be on the womens soccer team.
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They are. This is capitalism. If someone wants to pay them $1 million to beat the s*** out of them and they agree, then so be it.
 
#78
#78
northknoxvol said:
Something has to change imo. Beating the brakes off these small teams and giving them checks just doesnt fly anymore. Fans pay too much money to go to a game that is just a scrimmage. Fans all over college football are leaving at halftime of these games. The TV networks have to be pissed about paying so much for the rights to broadcast and then struggling to keep viewers for more than a quarter.
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You wouldn’t have said that 4 years ago.
 
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northknoxvol said:
Something has to change imo. Beating the brakes off these small teams and giving them checks just doesnt fly anymore. Fans pay too much money to go to a game that is just a scrimmage. Fans all over college football are leaving at halftime of these games. The TV networks have to be pissed about paying so much for the rights to broadcast and then struggling to keep viewers for more than a quarter.
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Do you have any data to back up that they are losing viewers? Because if the games aren't going away then that means the ratings are just fine and they are making their money.

It's the same argument about "too many bowls" or "bowls nobody cares about". It's a problem people complain about that doesn't appear to actually exist, at least from a financial standpoint. If bowls lost money then you'd see them start to disappear, but they aren't. Why? Because as much as we make fun of them and the empty stadiums....people watch them and they make money.

So until they get hard data that shows people aren't watching bad mid majors and FCS teams get blitzed by upper FBS teams, they will continue because everyone is getting paid.
 
#80
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northknoxvol said:
Something has to change imo. Beating the brakes off these small teams and giving them checks just doesnt fly anymore. Fans pay too much money to go to a game that is just a scrimmage. Fans all over college football are leaving at halftime of these games. The TV networks have to be pissed about paying so much for the rights to broadcast and then struggling to keep viewers for more than a quarter.
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Absolutely not. We already play 8 conference games and have to play 1 game from a power conference team. These smaller schools would NEVER survive without these games. Best thing is, don't go to the game. There's plenty of fans that can't afford the bigger games and these are the ones they can go to. So yes, it does fly!
 
#81
#81
loservol said:
After the bye week the Vols have to play Arkansas, Florida and Alabama for the next 3 weeks. There should have been a UTC or Kent State scheduled between Florida and Bama.

Ever noticed Georgia and Bama seem to getaway each year with not having consecutive weeks of tough rival matchups?
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Only 1 of those teams are worth a damn.
 
#82
#82
Small schools pretty much get funded by these games.
I do wish TN had played at least some decent competition before the OU game, although NC State was ranked but so was FSU hahaha so rankings doesn't always matter
I think our front D guys are going to take care of business, still not sure what our pass coverage will look like.
I think Sampson will run and get his yards.
Just hope our WRs can make catches against better quality defenders and please no allowing 1st down on 3 and 20
GB🍊
 
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#85
Who has more to lose in these contests? Michigan will never live down losing to Appalachian State, Notre Dame - NIU, and Virginia losing to Chaminade in basketball. Our loss to Georgia State seems mild in comparison to these, but it still stings.

They come in, experience playing in the big leagues, collect a huge paycheck by their standards, and usually get their feelings hurt. But they also get a lottery ticket that maybe they make a bigger splash than any of their players ever dreamed of.

Seems fair enough to me.

And now, for the lamest analogy:

I ran cross country at a small college. Nobody cared how much the good runners beat the crappy runners. Nobody said “Slow down, you’re embarrassing the other guys.” You run your race and that’s that. Kinda like what CJH said last night, TN played their game without regard to who they were playing.

(I was the crappy runner in that analogy! 😂)
 
#87
#87
Brave Volunteer said:
What??? GTFO with that nonsense!!

1.) Kent State's coach was approached at halftime by our administration to play shortened quarters in the 2nd half, and he refused.

2.) 65 of our 71 points were scored in the first two quarters. We scored 6 points in the entire second half. We called off the dogs early.

3.) Our backup QB had more touchdown passes than our starting QB. Our 3rd string QB only attempted 5 total passes and we didn't throw the ball the entire 4th quarter.

4.) Our backup running back had more rushing yards than our starting RB. Our 3rd string RB was 2 yards shy of matching our starting RB's rushing total!


What should have Huepel done? QB kneels and punt the entire 2nd half? It wasn't our fault that Kent State sucked so badly on 7 continents. Our backups work hard too and when they get on the field, they deserve to compete just like our starters do!
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Stupid reply. The onside kick was classless. The rest of the game was managed as well as could be expected. How about a little reading comprehension before flying off the handle. SMH
 
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TNRazor said:
I remember when Dooley/Jones/Pruitt were here we'd play these types of games and too often be in a dogfight in the 4th qtr.. l take complaints over running up the score over that garbage all day long
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Good gosh. Does anyone actually read? Nobody is complaining about running up the score!! It was the onside kick up 30 points that was unnecessary
 
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northknoxvol said:
Something has to change imo. Beating the brakes off these small teams and giving them checks just doesnt fly anymore. Fans pay too much money to go to a game that is just a scrimmage. Fans all over college football are leaving at halftime of these games. The TV networks have to be pissed about paying so much for the rights to broadcast and then struggling to keep viewers for more than a quarter.
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The networks love scheduling our game. We score so often and so fast, there is opportunity to sell more ads during the game. Regardless of the score or people changing the channel, they get paid to air every one of those ads.
 
#92
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DukeDaisySam said:
Good gosh. Does anyone actually read? Nobody is complaining about running up the score!! It was the onside kick up 30 points that was unnecessary
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Is it classless to be up 30 and see them just rushing 2 then deciding to run? Should you throw into blanket coverage just to avoid embarrassing them?

Kent State CHOSE to drop off the kickoff to try, I assume, to set up a better runback. That kind of choice, like deciding to rush 2, has advantages and consequences like every other CHOICE coaches make about offense and defense.

If you don't want someone to run it all day, you pack the box....... then they throw on you.

If you don't want them to go deep, you try the 3--3-5...... then they run on you or split seams short.

If you want to set up a runback, you drop off the rush on punts and kickoffs........ then they may fake a punt or try an onside kick.

What about any of that is classless?
 
#93
#93
I think we all remember Georgia State rolling into Neyland and handing Pruitt the "L."

I'll take the "W." Screw Kent State.
 
#94
#94
DukeDaisySam said:
Stupid reply. The onside kick was classless. The rest of the game was managed as well as could be expected. How about a little reading comprehension before flying off the handle. SMH
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Then Kent State should've recovered the damn ball! Their guy had it, then lost it somehow. Up 30-0 and attempting an onside kick when they were playing a soft kickoff return is not egregious at all. If we had done it in the 4th quarter, up 71-0, then yeah I might agree with you. But at that point in the game, no. We took what they GAVE us!
 
#95
#95
DukeDaisySam said:
It was classless
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I don't see it as classless....if a coach sees a weakness in the opponent and doesn't take advantage of it he's not doing his job..... when a coach plays non
starters he can't tell them not to go all out you play to win subs need game experience.....
 
#96
#96
DukeDaisySam said:
And what in hades does that have to do with calling an onside kick ahead by 30 points? Jeez…
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Because Heupel didn’t call it to embarrass Kent State. Everything in the playbook is fair game in the first half. The second half is when you call off the dogs in a lopsided game and that’s exactly what Heupel did.
 
#97
#97
SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Is it classless to be up 30 and see them just rushing 2 then deciding to run? Should you throw into blanket coverage just to avoid embarrassing them?

Kent State CHOSE to drop off the kickoff to try, I assume, to set up a better runback. That kind of choice, like deciding to rush 2, has advantages and consequences like every other CHOICE coaches make about offense and defense.

If you don't want someone to run it all day, you pack the box....... then they throw on you.

If you don't want them to go deep, you try the 3--3-5...... then they run on you or split seams short.

If you want to set up a runback, you drop off the rush on punts and kickoffs........ then they may fake a punt or try an onside kick.

What about any of that is classless?
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It was 30-0.
 
#98
#98
NighthawkVol said:
Then you’ve just kept the same number of cupcakes. The subject of this thread was about reducing them.

We shouldn’t be afraid to schedule a Syracuse or Georgia Tech or NC State. Especially with a 12 team playoff.
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Right, and I would rather keep the cupcakes. You need as many breathers as you can get. It's a long SEC season.
 
#99
#99
DukeDaisySam said:
It was 30-0.
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Absolutely.

"It's 30-0 so Cooper, I know we can run the trap so Sampson is free to run, but don't execute because it's 30-0 and to execute good plays against them like a trap is classless."

BS. Kent State offered LOTS of opportunities, including backing away on the kickoff to make an onside kick attractive, and UT exploited our talent advantage AND the decisions the Kent State Special Teams coach made.

If you don't want the other team to exploit your decisions, don't make bad coaching choices.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
Absolutely.

"It's 30-0 so Cooper, I know we can run the trap so Sampson is free to run, but don't execute because it's 30-0 and to execute good plays against them like a trap is classless."

BS. Kent State offered LOTS of opportunities, including backing away on the kickoff to make an onside kick attractive, and UT exploited our talent advantage AND the decisions the Kent State Special Teams coach made.

If you don't want the other team to exploit your decisions, don't make bad coaching choices.
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Classless
 
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