'26 TN ATH Shavar Young (Clemson Commit)

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You don’t pull that stunt, as many times as he’s visited and being a local kid, unless you’re upset about something.

Dollars to donuts this kid wanted in at some point but the staff wasn’t ready to take the commitment, OR he wanted to play a position but we liked him better at another (wr vs cb or vice versa).

You put on a show like that while committing and it means you’re scorned about something.

The last two kids who did that - both linebackers from Georgia - one was pizsed because Pruitt cussed him out when he told him he was going to commit to Georgia, and then he other (Jaimie Pettway) wanted in the boat but we weren’t ready to accept. Ended up at Mizzou.
 
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Stop taking everything so personal and looking down the wrong end of things. Was more so a fake out to his own friends and family who wanted him to choose UT.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
You don’t pull that stunt, as many times as he’s visited and being a local kid, unless you’re upset about something.

Dollars to donuts this kid wanted in at some point but the staff wasn’t ready to take the commitment, OR he wanted to play a position but we liked him better at another (wr vs cb or vice versa).

You put on a show like that while committing and it means you’re scorned about something.

The last two kids who did that - both linebackers from Georgia - one was pizsed because Pruitt cussed him out when he told him he was going to commit to Georgia, and then he other (Jaimie Pettway) wanted in the boat but we weren’t ready to accept. Ended up at Mizzou.
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The Tee Higgins commitment video to UT still irks me. We were in a much different spot as a program then, but what he did was unnecessary. IIRC, Tee and his family was sitting around an outdoor table, against the back of their house, holding sparklers (around July 4th). A few days/weeks later, Clemson released Tee's real commitment video with huge fireworks. I trully believe Dabo was behind it and that's his style. It was an over the top punk move towards the VOLS. I hope Dabo and Clemson totally falls off the map.
 
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overseasorange2 said:
I don't care, but allot can happen in 2 years. Why risk a potential fall back school? You don't think it hurts his chances of UT giving him another option down the road, if things don't work out at Clemson? To me: I get 2 job offers. I don't go back and insult the company I didn't choose 🤪
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No, it doesn’t hurt his chances with us as a fallback school. No one on the coaching or recruiting staff cares one iota.

He put a Tennessee shirt on then took it off. If y’all wanna psychoanalyze a kid over this dumb crap go ahead. The one guy here who might know anything about him says he’s a good kid. The only reason to challenge that is to fit this dumb narrative that there’s no evidence for.
 
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MarcoVol said:
Agree but this is the same fan base that welcomed Cade Mays with open arms despite being recorded singing “F Tennessee too!”
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benholt06 said:
No, it doesn’t hurt his chances with us as a fallback school. No one on the coaching or recruiting staff cares one iota.

He put a Tennessee shirt on then took it off. If y’all wanna psychoanalyze a kid over this dumb crap go ahead. The one guy here who might know anything about him says he’s a good kid. The only reason to challenge that is to fit this dumb narrative that there’s no evidence for.
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Do you know of any instance where a Vol signed by current staff did anything close to this action at the table?

Do you know of any portal acquisition by this staff that had similar acts anywhere in their history?
 
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It doesn't bother me that they do it as much as how unoriginal they are when they do. The hat or shirt thing was old 10+ years ago.
 
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benholt06 said:
No, it doesn’t hurt his chances with us as a fallback school. No one on the coaching or recruiting staff cares one iota.

He put a Tennessee shirt on then took it off. If y’all wanna psychoanalyze a kid over this dumb crap go ahead. The one guy here who might know anything about him says he’s a good kid. The only reason to challenge that is to fit this dumb narrative that there’s no evidence for.
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A. He’s not a “bad” kid because he did this.

B. Always be classy towards others and this discussion never even happens.
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
You don’t pull that stunt, as many times as he’s visited and being a local kid, unless you’re upset about something.

Dollars to donuts this kid wanted in at some point but the staff wasn’t ready to take the commitment, OR he wanted to play a position but we liked him better at another (wr vs cb or vice versa).

You put on a show like that while committing and it means you’re scorned about something.

The last two kids who did that - both linebackers from Georgia - one was pizsed because Pruitt cussed him out when he told him he was going to commit to Georgia, and then he other (Jaimie Pettway) wanted in the boat but we weren’t ready to accept. Ended up at Mizzou.
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I tend to agree but I also have a sneaking suspicion other coaches encourage it. Dabo, Dorkawitz, and Kirby are all three guys with a strongly vested interested in keeping UT down.

All three of their programs have benefitted from our decade and a half of incompetence. They know when we’re at our best we take our pick of the HS players in their states. So I could see a staffer giving them the “wouldn’t it be fun if…” speech about doing a fake out. You rarely see recruits fake committing to schools that aren’t a threat in one way or another.
 
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AllVol11717 said:
I tend to agree but I also have a sneaking suspicion other coaches encourage it. Dabo, Dorkawitz, and Kirby are all three guys with a strongly vested interested in keeping UT down.

All three of their programs have benefitted from our decade and a half of incompetence. They know when we’re at our best we take our pick of the HS players in their states. So I could see a staffer giving them the “wouldn’t it be fun if…” speech about doing a fake out. You rarely see recruits fake committing to schools that aren’t a threat in one way or another.
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I wonder about the timing here a little bit ..... I think Clemson was frustrated that they weren't seriously considered by Faizon Brandon. A player in Knoxville (from next year's class) doing this the day before everyone knew Brandon was committing to Tennessee? It makes you wonder ....
 
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HoleInTheRoof said:
You don’t pull that stunt, as many times as he’s visited and being a local kid, unless you’re upset about something.

Dollars to donuts this kid wanted in at some point but the staff wasn’t ready to take the commitment, OR he wanted to play a position but we liked him better at another (wr vs cb or vice versa).

You put on a show like that while committing and it means you’re scorned about something.

The last two kids who did that - both linebackers from Georgia - one was pizsed because Pruitt cussed him out when he told him he was going to commit to Georgia, and then he other (Jaimie Pettway) wanted in the boat but we weren’t ready to accept. Ended up at Mizzou.
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I think it's not a big deal... That'switch' has been done a million times.

I think any time it happens, the motives get displaced.

When it's far more likely he was having his moment, creating some drama for himself.
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benholt06 said:
No, it doesn’t hurt his chances with us as a fallback school. No one on the coaching or recruiting staff cares one iota.

He put a Tennessee shirt on then took it off. If y’all wanna psychoanalyze a kid over this dumb crap go ahead. The one guy here who might know anything about him says he’s a good kid. The only reason to challenge that is to fit this dumb narrative that there’s no evidence for.
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knoxvol52 said:
Would the same reaction happen on here if he had pulled a Clemson shirt off then picked Tennessee?
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That's been covered a lot ....

Regardless of which school is chosen, it is strange for a prospect to be publicly expressing anger/bitterness/ridicule towards people who are offering them a scholarship, money and taking an interest in helping them achieve their future career goals.

There have been times when athletes have done this while choosing Tennessee (I remember Vincent Yarbrough in basketball from way back in the day .... while announcing for Tennessee over Kentucky). It makes me cringe, regardless of whether they are picking Tennessee or someone else.

It's not a big deal; nor is it a poor reflection of anyone's character or upbringing, but it is a strange way to act towards people who have taken the time to recruit you.
 
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