'22 TN DT Walter Nolen (Ole Miss)

[sjt18]

If the SEC and ACC merge, it will be when all power 5 conferences merge to create the "new NCAA" which will be 80 teams. They'll probably re-create or re-imagine conferences at that point.

My theory (I will try to put this in sequence):

• The Big 12 will dissolve (thus taking us from power 5 to power 4)
• The remaining Big 12 teams will be re-distributed across the Big Ten, PAC 12, AAC & ACC
• Baylor/TCU/Texas Tech/OSU to Pac 12 (16 total)
• Iowa State to Big Ten (15 total)
• WVU to ACC (15 total)
• Notre Dame finally joins the ACC in football (16 total)
• Kansas/K-State to AAC (13 total)
• Boise State joins AAC (14 total)
• Big Ten finds a 16th team
• AAC finds a couple more Group of 5 teams to round out their conf at 16 teams (FAU? WKU? Air Force? UAB? North Texas? BYU?)
• AAC becomes the 5th "Power 5" school
• This persists for 5 years or so then a new org of the 80 power 5 schools is created.

K-State would likely play independent before accepting a demotion.

KU would more than likely be your 16th Big 10 team.

 

[Devo182]

If the SEC and ACC merge, it will be when all power 5 conferences merge to create the "new NCAA" which will be 80 teams. They'll probably re-create or re-imagine conferences at that point.

My theory (I will try to put this in sequence):

• The Big 12 will dissolve (thus taking us from power 5 to power 4)
• The remaining Big 12 teams will be re-distributed across the Big Ten, PAC 12, AAC & ACC
• Baylor/TCU/Texas Tech/OSU to Pac 12 (16 total)
• Iowa State to Big Ten (15 total)
• WVU to ACC (15 total)
• Notre Dame finally joins the ACC in football (16 total)
• Kansas/K-State to AAC (13 total)
• Boise State joins AAC (14 total)
• Big Ten finds a 16th team
• AAC finds a couple more Group of 5 teams to round out their conf at 16 teams (FAU? WKU? Air Force? UAB? North Texas? BYU?)
• AAC becomes the 5th "Power 5" school
• This persists for 5 years or so then a new org of the 80 power 5 schools is created.

There won't be 80 "worthy" schools in 5 years at this rate. There are only ~20 right now by Sankey standards.

Now it's all about "do you add more value/are you good enough for the superconference?" Schools like Vandy, miss schools, arky could be axed. Then we'll add clemson, fsu, miami, unc, osu, michigan, penn st, wiscy. Everyone else dies off. 10 years later they may decide we are not good enough in football and we'll get demoted and retire in some G5 league.

This system is ruinous.

 

[Devo182]

If the SEC and ACC did merge, what would that do the scheduling for teams? I bet there would be no out of conference games.

Yes there will be more push for only superconference games ($$$), meaning the death knell for many FCS and some G5 programs. Screw em all. Who needs Chatta or ETSU football? The scholarship players and communities sure don't.

 

[T Dog]

 

[Nuctech777]

Let them pretend. It’s orange shaded mob mentality. Most of them clock in on the R word spectrum of the IQ table.

No politics in the recruiting forums!

 

[Jackcrevol]

Let them pretend. It’s orange shaded mob mentality. Most of them clock in on the R word spectrum of the IQ table.

are you essentially calling fellow Vol fans retards ?

 

[VOLINVONORE]

are you essentially calling fellow Vol fans retards ?

It appears like he is the pan calling the kettle black.

 

[Jackcrevol]

It appears like he is the pan calling the kettle black.

def a trollish thing to say

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

i guess i don't really see the vitriol? i guess he might get defensive when people insist his completely rational posts are "mean" because they're not sunshine-pumping enough, but i don't recall him ever posting anything that was outright mean? i don't mean to direct this at you, i like you, but theres a sentiment around here that being blunt about the situation we find ourselves in right now and not really playing along with the unbridled optimism about the future somehow means you're "anti-UT". i think it cheapens the discourse is all.

and i say that as prob the first person to pump sunshine about Heup on this board! lol.

The problem is its the same thing day in and day out. All he does in come in and preach about how much the Vols suck. People get sick of it. Not to mention his inconsistencies. He hung from Pruitt testes until and after the bitter end.

People get it. We don't need to be preached to. I used to enjoy his insight even though I didn't like some of it. I seldom read his post any more. Because I don't like it? No. It's because I've read it a million times.

De1 has said he actively pushes kids away from TN and negative recruits against us. I mean he and BGS are like little girly spoonmates. It seems they get off on negative all the time. You are right. It’s the same BS over and over again.

De1 says Pruitt was a good HC. Defends him even now. Is Pruitt a HC now? Nope.

 

[utvolmaniac]

Let me explain to you, coming ro UT will not garner any better benefits than going to Bama or UGA. Actually going g to either of those 2 will get him more. Those 2 win on an elite level right now and playing there has a little more clout at the current moment. None of these kids are worry about taxes and all that like a normal citizen like I or you.

With NIL now in place, these kids need to start thinking about taxes like normal citizens. Teams in states with no state income taxes should have a new recruiting pitch. Tennessee, Florida, Texas, and Washington most notably.

 

[VolFreakJosh]

De1 has said he actively pushes kids away from TN and negative recruits against us. I mean he and BGS are like little girly spoonmates. It seems they get off on negative all the time. You are right. It’s the same BS over and over again.

De1 says Pruitt was a good HC. Defends him even now. Is Pruitt a HC now? Nope.

Calling the fans “soft” & “whiny” just because we don’t agree with his narrative is what pisses most of us off. It’s the same BS story over & over again.

That’s not being rational, that’s just being a bully.

Do you not expect some sort of criticism after that? So stupid.

 

[BruisedOrange]

Regarding expanding west vs expanding east...

Something that was desirable in recent times past, was having multiple time zones within the conference, so that its televised games present a large, rolling, time-of-broadcast footprint over several networks.

An SEC with quality teams in 3 time zones would be the Saturday football equivalent of the old British Empire.

"The beer commercials never cease on the SEC!"

 

[Jackcrevol]

De1 has said he actively pushes kids away from TN and negative recruits against us. I mean he and BGS are like little girly spoonmates. It seems they get off on negative all the time. You are right. It’s the same BS over and over again.

De1 says Pruitt was a good HC. Defends him even now. Is Pruitt a HC now? Nope.

if he is, then he isnt a Vol. ignore him. ridiculous.

 

[mrmax86]

There won't be 80 "worthy" schools in 5 years at this rate. There are only ~20 right now by Sankey standards.

Now it's all about "do you add more value/are you good enough for the superconference?" Schools like Vandy, miss schools, arky could be axed. Then we'll add clemson, fsu, miami, unc, osu, michigan, penn st, wiscy. Everyone else dies off. 10 years later they may decide we are not good enough in football and we'll get demoted and retire in some G5 league.

This system is ruinous.

I don’t see the SEC expanding beyond 16

 

[TheRain]

If the SEC and ACC did merge, what would that do the scheduling for teams? I bet there would be no out of conference games.

If we end up with one super conference I could see different tiers being used. What that would look like I don't know.

 

[DarthVol1]

I don’t see the SEC expanding beyond 16

I would be surprised if they dont go to 20 or 24. This is about taking all of the big boys into the club and shutting out everyone else

 

[VOLINVONORE]

I don’t see the SEC expanding beyond 16

I can see 4-5 super conferences with 20 teams each.

 

[SweetasSoda]

I'm sorry, but I find it ludicrous that some people actually believe Tennessee fans NEED to be reminded of the shape our program is in. Just because we don't want to talk about it all the time doesn't mean we don't know. We know! Now, what is happening that may change it?

 

[SugarCC]

Let me explain to you, coming ro UT will not garner any better benefits than going to Bama or UGA. Actually going g to either of those 2 will get him more. Those 2 win on an elite level right now and playing there has a little more clout at the current moment. None of these kids are worry about taxes and all that like a normal citizen like I or you.

If you're the mentor you claim yourself and NPA to be, maybe you should be teaching them the truly important things like this, like how to budget, take care of money and finances; because, at the end of the day, things like that are MUCH MORE important than a slant route, 40 time, or form tackling.

 

[Leeleesteeth]

I'm sorry, but I find it ludicrous that some people actually believe Tennessee fans NEED to be reminded of the shape our program is in. Just because we don't want to talk about it all the time doesn't mean we don't know. We know! Now, what is happening that may change it?

Trying to validate their own sense of self-importance.

 

[TheRain]

 

[Devo182]

With NIL now in place, these kids need to start thinking about taxes like normal citizens. Teams in states with no state income taxes should have a new recruiting pitch. Tennessee, Florida, Texas, and Washington most notably.

You're putting waaaay too much into a 4 or 5% difference lol. Especially for college kids.

500k vs 475k doesn't matter vs 1) better development when you're making millions in the nfl, 2) better odds of winning big right away, 3) better NiL deals for 10%, 20%, etc more.

Not saying we can't use that as a small advantage, but we ultimately have to sell them on the above first. A mere 4-5% won't matter if you believe the other school's pitch of making 50% more in NiL or you'll be a surefire 1st rounder.

It will all come down to selling from each program.

 

[SugarCC]

What passes for journalism and being a journalist these days is absolutely laughable, sad, and terrifying.

 

[Tennessee Golfer]

Regarding expanding west vs expanding east...

Something that was desirable in recent times past, was having multiple time zones within the conference, so that its televised games present a large, rolling, time-of-broadcast footprint over several networks.

An SEC with quality teams in 3 time zones would be the Saturday football equivalent of the old British Empire.

"The beer commercials never cease on the SEC!"

1. Wrong thread.

2. We already have teams in eastern and central? What team would we want to add from the mountain time?

 

[Weezer]

1. Wrong thread.

2. We already have teams in eastern and central? What team would we want to add from the mountain time?

Just wait until Oregon joins the Southeastern Conference!