To Protect and to Serve II

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GreyWolf1129 said:
With any luck, your theory will be tested in Minneapolis. It will be interesting to see what those who live there think about it down the line.
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What Minneapolis and these other cities are doing is ridiculous. I've never jumped on board with what they are going for.
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
Uhhh...
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That was in reference to the conversation about a person defending their home or dealing with a "trespasser".

Police have a place. They need to go after killers, robbers, rapists and vandals/property criminals. But writing tickets, enforcing silly house rules and engaging in the drug war is not their place. And choking people out for passing a fake $20 or selling loose cigarettes is unnecessary, also.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
That was in reference to the conversation about a person defending their home or dealing with a "trespasser".

Police have a place. They need to go after killers, robbers, rapists and vandals/property criminals. But writing tickets, enforcing silly house rules and engaging in the drug war is not their place. And choking people out for passing a fake $20 or selling loose cigarettes is unnecessary, also.
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They get tons of arrests of killers, rapists, robbers from writing tickets and other “minor” infractions. And those two instances happened because of the criminal resisting arrest or fighting police
 
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GreyWolf1129 said:
So the Minneapolis City Council seems dead set on eliminating their Police Department. A Hennepin County judge rejected the proposed ballot language as ambiguous, and now the City Council is holding an emergency meeting to revise the language. Ultimately, it will go before the voters of Minneapolis.

Personally, I hope the measure passes. You get what you vote for. A majority of the citizens of Minneapolis voted for their leaders, and now they are about to serve as a cautionary tale. Sometimes your function in life is to serve as a warning to others.

So it goes with Minneapolis. There are a number of cities these days that are all but completely unsafe to live in, or near.

Minneapolis is about to say "Hold my beer."
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Huge mistake.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
They get tons of arrests of killers, rapists, robbers from writing tickets and other “minor” infractions. And those two instances happened because of the criminal resisting arrest or fighting police
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Just imagine how many more criminals you could catch if you set up roadblocks all across the county?

You can't justify harassing motorists and being a revenue hawk for the sake of fighting crime. Else, you can justify doing anything for the greater good. If these clowns can shutdown businesses and lock everyone down for the sake of health and safety, then it wouldn't be a stretch for LEOs to want to do the same and set up roadblocks and checkpoints everywhere to fight crime.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Just imagine how many more criminals you could catch if you set up roadblocks all across the county?

You can't justify harassing motorists and being a revenue hawk for the sake of fighting crime. Else, you can justify doing anything for the greater good. If these clowns can shutdown businesses and lock everyone down for the sake of health and safety, then it wouldn't be a stretch for LEOs to want to do the same and set up roadblocks and checkpoints everywhere to fight crime.
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I actually am not in support of roadblocks ever unless there is an emergent reason to do so
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
But someone else could justify them as a tool to fight crime. Just like you justified revenue traffic stops a few minutes ago.
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I’m not “justifying” traffic stops for just revenue. I do understand that pulling someone over for no headlights, running a stop sign, speeding, etc. is not some fascist thing. It’s also to keep people safe
 
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Watch how the witness to the abuse is lectured and discounted by the POS cop.
In addition, the lies and omissions should give people to not put “our boys in blue” on a pedestal. They at a minimum reflect the general population which is divided between good and bad people. I would imagine that the number of people who have a need to control and dominate are attracted to an LEO career.
I will say that I’ve met LEO’s who I believe are good people but this video shows the evil that exists and the steps they take to hide their criminal behavior.

 
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VolFaninFla said:
Watch how the witness to the abuse is lectured and discounted by the POS cop.
In addition, the lies and omissions should give people to not put “our boys in blue” on a pedestal. They at a minimum reflect the general population which is divided between good and bad people. I would imagine that the number of people who have a need to control and dominate are attracted to an LEO career.
I will say that I’ve met LEO’s who I believe are good people but this video shows the evil that exists and the steps they take to hide their criminal behavior.

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This video doesn't make me feel any less cautious about encounters with police. These police nowadays fit a profile. They are either the guys that got thrown into lockers in high school or they have an axe to grind with the prom king and queen.

The majority of police are not on the side of the people. They serve and protect the bureaucracy. You are nothing to these (most of these) people.
 
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Gangs Of LA Sheriff's Deputies Are Running Amok, Bullying Other Cops | ZeroHedge

Almost as troubling, the RAND report claims the Banditos have used violence against inmates in LASD custody as an initiation rite, requiring initiate deputies to use "unnecessary force" before they can receive the clique's tattoo — a skeleton in a Sombrero holding a revolver.

"So you have a kid who wants to be accepted, they would ask are you ready to get your ink? And that meant you had to get into a use-of-force and send an inmate to the hospital, sometimes by breaking the orbital bone."​
 
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