Tom Brady.....even better than I thought he was.

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USAFgolferVol said:
It wasn't well for him. He played well enough for them to win
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But it was a good game for him. He basically had total control over the play-calling and he called a masterpiece. He took exactly what the D gave him, got a lead, let the running game close it, and they put up 29. He was viewed as a guy who could not perform and win big games in bad elements, and he did just that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
But it was a good game for him. He basically had total control over the play-calling and he called a masterpiece. He took exactly what the D gave him, got a lead, let the running game close it, and they put up 29. He was viewed as a guy who could not perform and win big games in bad elements, and he did just that.
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Ok.
 
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SMH at some of you all.

At age 39, when you are supposed to need help and be carried by your team at that point in your career if you are actually still playing, he took a team with a WR group of Julian Edelman, Chris Hogan, Danny Amendola, and Malcolm Mitchell.....had a 14-2 record and went through the playoffs averaging over 34 ppg and won the Super Bowl (2016). Now, seeing how most every great QB wasn't even playing at 39 and when they were playing were throwing to Jerry Rice, Lynn Swann, or guys like that.....it's beyond ridiculous.

Then, they go to the Super Bowl with the same group of turds when he's 40 and 41 and the backs were Dion Lewis, James White, and Sony Michel.

Despite the fact he was able to get that group of scrubs to the promised land (the Super Bowl) 4 times in 5 years, there were people that think he's done. So, off to Tampa he goes. He gets some people on the offensive side of the ball who are taller than 5'7". He throws a pick 6 in week 1 and loses to NO. Arians was critical of him and people everywhere are saying he's done and shouldn't have left Belichek. He goes and forgets what down it is and loses on the road to Chicago. They slog their way to 7-5 and no one anywhere took them seriously as a contender for jack. Then, December comes and Brady says....Hold my beer. Last 4 games of the regular season and the playoffs, he throws for 300 ypg, 22 TD's and 4 picks. During the regular season and playoffs combined throws for 50 TDs. And he does it at 43.

And some of y'all with a straight face are going to tell me that (insert name of QB here) would have done that too.....when they never did it while they were in their prime in the first place.

Who are you kidding?
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
BS to your BS. Peyton, Phillip Rivers, Aaron Rodgers would have won at least 5 with the Patriots. Brady does get credit for being still able to play at his current level the game beyond 40.
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LMAO You are so wrong, so is this what you people have left... anybody else could have done it in NE! If by now you don't understand what Brady's leadership means to both sides of the ball then you need to STHU and go do some research.
 
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HoptownVol said:
LMAO You are so wrong, so is this what you people have left... anybody else could have done it in NE! If by now you don't understand what Brady's leadership means to both sides of the ball then you need to STHU and go do some research.
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Peyton, if he had played for NE under Bellichek, wins Brady’s first 3 Sb’s, his own SB in 2006 and the two Brady losses to Eli. That’s six SB’s IMO. Brady was very fortunate to play under Belichek. The story could have been much different if he hadn’t. Brady’s first 3 Sb’s were defense dominated teams by the leadership of confident trash talking players like Bruschi, Vrabek and a few others. They just intimidated other teams with their attitude. Indy was mentally dominated by NE early on in Brady’s and Peyton’s careers just like TN has been mentally dominated by the Gators.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Peyton, if he had played for NE under Bellichek, wins Brady’s first 3 Sb’s, his own SB in 2006 and the two Brady losses to Eli. That’s six SB’s IMO. Brady was very fortunate to play under Belichek. The story could have been much different if he hadn’t. Brady’s first 3 Sb’s were defense dominated teams by the leadership of confident trash talking players like Bruschi, Vrabek and a few others. They just intimidated other teams with their attitude. Indy was mentally dominated by NE early on in Brady’s and Peyton’s careers just like TN has been mentally dominated by the Gators.
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05_never_again said:
They would have beaten KC last night with the Fournette rushing TD and a FG.

I mean, he's great, but he doesn't necessarily carry the team in every game his team wins. Tampa's pass rush last night (and the entire playoffs) was crazy good.
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Their whole strategy changes defending a 1 point lead. And KC with Mahomes down 1? You’re being goofy with the “would” stuff. Maintaining a double digit lead throughout the game was key to the victory.
 
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ABINGDON VOL FAN said:
Peyton, if he had played for NE under Bellichek, wins Brady’s first 3 Sb’s, his own SB in 2006 and the two Brady losses to Eli. That’s six SB’s IMO. Brady was very fortunate to play under Belichek. The story could have been much different if he hadn’t. Brady’s first 3 Sb’s were defense dominated teams by the leadership of confident trash talking players like Bruschi, Vrabek and a few others. They just intimidated other teams with their attitude. Indy was mentally dominated by NE early on in Brady’s and Peyton’s careers just like TN has been mentally dominated by the Gators.
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You’ll have to forgive me to doubt this as I watched a John Fox/Jake Delhomme offense put up 29 on those vaunted defenses you keep talking in Super Bowl 38.
 
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Peyton, who is the second greatest QB in NFL history put up these numbers in his first six playoff games through 2004. Not sure how many teams are winning with four of these games

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zjcvols said:
You’ll have to forgive me to doubt this as I watched a John Fox/Jake Delhomme offense put up 29 on those vaunted defenses you keep talking in Super Bowl 38.
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The underlying point is that SB was made possible by a D that held the Titans and Colts to 14 when both teams were averaging 27 ppg.

And the SB was a weird one. Carolina had 10 points going into the 4th quarter. Delhomme completed fewer than 50% of his passes. The Panthers only had 17 first downs (which would rank you 24th in the NFL at the time). Yeah they put up 19 in the 4th quarter, 7 of which was set up by a Brady pick, but the score doesn't really tell the tale.
 
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n_huffhines said:
The underlying point is that SB was made possible by a D that held the Titans and Colts to 14 when both teams were averaging 27 ppg.

And the SB was a weird one. Carolina had 10 points going into the 4th quarter. Delhomme completed fewer than 50% of his passes. The Panthers only had 17 first downs (which would rank you 24th in the NFL at the time). Yeah they put up 19 in the 4th quarter, 7 of which was set up by a Brady pick, but the score doesn't really tell the tale.
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The defense still gave up 387 yards on defense which in 2003 is a pretty good amount. They gave up multiple long TD passes. Brady had to play extremely well in that game for them to win.

By the way the next year Philly put up 369 yards (four turnovers tho so they made plays) but even if you want to argue his “defenses” were the sole purposes of the first three, their offense was the catalyst for their two twins against Seattle and Atlanta.
 
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zjcvols said:
The defense still gave up 387 yards on defense which in 2003 is a pretty good amount. They gave up multiple long TD passes. Brady had to play extremely well in that game for them to win.

By the way the next year Philly put up 369 yards (four turnovers tho so they made plays) but even if you want to argue his “defenses” were the sole purposes of the first three, their offense was the catalyst for their two twins against Seattle and Atlanta.
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Nobody should say the D is the soul purpose, but if they don't have a great D then they don't make the SB any of those years. Hell, the one year they didn't have a top 10 D, they didn't make the playoffs.
 
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zjcvols said:
I don’t care, watching Patricia coach defense with the Lions and knowing Brady won the Super Bowl with that clown on staff is impressive lol
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But being a head coach on your own and being a DC under BB are two completely different things. In the 2014 run they

Gave up 31 to the Ravens, but forced 2 turnovers.
Held the Colts to 7, forcing 3 turnovers.
Gave up 24 to the Seahawks, forcing a game-winning turnover.

I wouldn't call that a great defensive run but it certainly isn't a bad one.

Gave up 16 to Texans, forcing 3 turnovers.
Gave up 17 to Steelers, forcing 2 turnovers.
Gave up 21 to Falcons (including no 2nd half points), forcing 1 turnover. Falcons were averaging 34 ppg.

That's a freaking great run.
 
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zjcvols said:
You’ll have to forgive me to doubt this as I watched a John Fox/Jake Delhomme offense put up 29 on those vaunted defenses you keep talking in Super Bowl 38.
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They were a veteran defense that held the best team in the NFC to 29 points. Now if they gave up 40 plus points that would be a different story.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Nobody should say the D is the soul purpose, but if they don't have a great D then they don't make the SB any of those years. Hell, the one year they didn't have a top 10 D, they didn't make the playoffs.
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The season Peyton’s Colts had the 3rd overall ranked defense, they didn’t win a playoff game.
 
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butchna said:
But...they were ranked higher? Automatic win for the QB?
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Who said automatic?

Harrison fumbled near the goal and Kenton Keith let an open catch go off his hands for a pick at the goal line. Couple that with the D surrendering 28 against a team with a top 5 D and any QB is probably losing that game. A lot can go wrong when you're not Tom Brady.

Let's not troll Peyton Manning on a Vols board, for hell's sake
 
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