Tony Basillio confirmed - Kevin Ware won't be released

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KingNick865 said:
However, I'm not sure what good one visit can do.
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You're right. It might make no difference; however, I would wager that the recruit would most of the time allow the meeting to take place rather than refusing all contact from the school he signed with. That was my only point.
 
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droski said:
so i'd imagine you would be in favor of UT turning down all transfers from other schools?
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Every situation is different. It depends on the circumstances. But letting a kid out of a scholarship just because they change their mind and don't want to come here anymore..no I don't go along with that.
 
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shortgameVol said:
There isn't a single program in the country that would release the guys before they had a chance to meet with the coach. If they still want to be released AFTER meeting with the coach, then you release them. That's the classy move. What your talking about doing would reveal nothing but stupidity on the part of the institution
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most here seem to be arguing he shouldnt' get a release under any circumstances. and there are plenty of programs that have released guys without meeting with the new head coach. mike montgomery is one such coach who let it happen.
 
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volconomist said:
Why not grant him the release now, and meet with him later, and re-recruit him if you want him that bad.
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Because UT obviously doesn't think Cuonzo Martin can beat out guys like Tony Barbee and Brian Gregory if the playing field is level. Great message to send.
 
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LawVol13 said:
You're right. It might make no difference; however, I would wager that the recruit would most of the time allow the meeting to take place rather than refusing all contact from the school he signed with. That was my only point.
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It seems like this kid wants the attention more than anything.
 
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onevolfan said:
Every situation is different. It depends on the circumstances. But letting a kid out of a scholarship just because they change their mind and don't want to come here anymore..no I don't go along with that.
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so accepting a transfer from USC simply because he isn't starting at USC would be a pretty douchebag thing to do then?
 
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droski said:
why don't you give me an example of another program doing this? should be very easy. thanks much.
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There are numerous examples of this happening. Not to say I agree with it, but to act as if UT is the only school that has done it is simply not true.
 
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LawVol13 said:
There's no reason to punish the kid because the coach left. Additionally, if he won't even meet with the coach, I certainly don't want him on my team.
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If they were to refuse to meet, they certainly would not be on the team. He would, however, suffer the consequences of not even allowing the new coach an audience with him by going to prep school or setting out a year at his new school. LOI's have to mean something. We shouldn't be punished as a program because we had a lying coach who violated rules. We are setting the program back as we can't replace those two this late in the game with the same caliber of player. It has to go both ways. There are some repercussions for the player for signing with a snake coach that they already knew had serious NCAA violations and that he may not be able to remain as coach.
 
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LawVol13 said:
If he adamantly refused to allow the coaches to come meet with him, then I would probably go ahead and release him. However, I don't know how realistic that is. I would imagine that most of the time a recruit in Jones and Ware's situation would at least be willing to sit down with the new coach of the team they signed with in making their decision.
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As a parent, I don't know why another parent would have a hard time with the edict. You always keep your options open and more options become open when you make smart decisions, rather than rushed. If I'm the parent, I also have 2 teams already set up on speed dial with assurances of a spot when UT releases. It's a no brainer. I don't care what the LOI says about recruiting. If you don't think this kid has already received word regarding where he would be welcomed you are out of your mind.
 
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droski said:
it's extremely rare for a program to not give a release. tenn is the only program i'm aware of that does this.
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UT only does it in rare circumstances. The events over the last few days are rare, but make no mistake, any program is going to do this under these circumstances.
 
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droski said:
i'm waiting
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Well, I'll summarize what a 5 second google search uncovered. George O'Leary refused to grant DaMarcus Smith a release. DePaul wouldn't release Walter Pitchford. Notre Dame refused to release a QB.

You want a few more?
 
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g8terh8ter_eric said:
And did it affect this team, or our coaches ability to recruit??
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Probably not, but it still made Dooley look like a jackass. Not 3 months prior to the whole BB saga, Dooley himself had bailed on his own contract when a better opportunity came up for him. He not only left La Tech without a football coach but an AD as well. Still, Dooley decide to take a stand and teach Brown a lesson about commitment. What kind of professional holds an unpaid, 19 year old kid to a higher moral standard than he hold himself?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Because UT has a junior high coach trying to masquerade as a big timer who felt the need to convince people he's tough.
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Labeling Dooley a junior high coach?:birgits_giggle:

You have some brass ones and I am sure you will tell us how much loftier your status is in the legal profession as opposed to his in the coaching profession
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
We shouldn't be punished as a program because we had a lying coach who violated rules.
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In a scenario where he won't even meet with the new staff, he's not going to be playing for us no matter if we grant the release or not. Our only motivation to not grant the release at that point would be to try to stick it to the player, and I think that's unnecessary.
 
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bleedorange0037 said:
Probably not, but it still made Dooley look like a jackass. Not 3 months prior to the whole BB saga, Dooley himself had bailed on his own contract when a better opportunity came up for him. He not only left La Tech without a football coach but an AD as well. Still, Dooley decide to take a stand and teach Brown a lesson about commitment. What kind of professional holds an unpaid, 19 year old kid to a higher moral standard than he hold himself?
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Thats because these sheep need to learn that its never about making a kid keep a commitment, but rather a selfish coach trying to have his cake and eat it too. Its holding a kid hostage, basically, and like you said, it makes the coach and program look very bad.
 
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