Top 10 CF teams of all time...

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All-in-all, I think '95 Nebraska was just a better team. Not more talent than '01 Miami, but a better team when you consider coaching, intangibles, and every thing else. They had the perfect mix of size and speed. They were cornfed, but they would run you down too.
 
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that 04 SC team was unbelievable and let's not forget very young (particurally offensively) and didn't hit stride until the second half of the season. i bet they give both of those other teams a good game.
 
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droski said:
that 04 SC team was unbelievable and let's not forget very young (particurally offensively) and didn't hit stride until the second half of the season. i bet they give both of those other teams a good game.
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Any team that relies on a passing attack would have huge problems scoring effectively on the 2001 Canes, in my opinion. I'm not sure there has ever been a better secondary in the game. The defense overall was unreal.
 
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justingroves said:
They were just bigger, stronger and better than every team they played.

Miami 01 was fantastic. However, no team just physically dominated the way 95 Nebraska did.
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I know the Huskers were dominant on offense, but I just can't see a defense full of NFL players, many of whom were/have been exceptional pros, getting that beat up and worn out. I think they hold the Huskers to 24 or less.
 
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justingroves said:
They were just bigger, stronger and better than every team they played.

Miami 01 was fantastic. However, no team just physically dominated the way 95 Nebraska did.
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Yes, and lets not forget, Tom Osborne vs Larry Coker

Hell, Osborne had to defeat Steve Spurrier. Coker faced off against Frank Solich.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I know the Huskers were dominant on offense, but I just can't see a defense full of NFL players, many of whom were/have been exceptional pros, getting that beat up and worn out. I think they hold the Huskers to 24 or less.
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I understand where you're coming from, but there are several examples of great teams just getting completely worn down and out by big physical nasty linemen on both sides of the ball.
 
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#65
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That Nebraska team would have struggled with Miami's d, even with the 'roid program.
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tvolsfan said:
I didn't say they were one-dimensional. I just said they're a team that depends a lot on it's passing game. I don't expect that they could just line up and run right at Miami. I just wouldn't expect them to have a whole lot of success.
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they lined up and ran right at everyone on their schedule with white and bush certainly would have stretched the field. people forget how unbelievable that Oline was too.
 
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I think Nebraska and Miami are the only teams you can make an argument for.
 
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justingroves said:
I understand where you're coming from, but there are several examples of great teams just getting completely worn down and out by big physical nasty linemen on both sides of the ball.
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Maybe so, but how many of those defenses were this good?

Just some numbers, in case you didn't know.

7 of the starters on Miami's defense were NFL first rounders.
3 other players were drafted, but not in the first round.
And I think the last player, Chris Campbell, would have been drafted as well, but passed away before the season.
Then take into consideration the fact that they had multiple NFL players coming off the bench.

I just don't see that defense getting worn down. In my mind, that team was just too good to get dominated.

Just for the record, the offense also consisted of 10 NFL players and I think one CFL guy, with additional NFL players coming off the bench. 4/5 of that starting offensive line was also drafted. I can't see the offensive having too much trouble.
 
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droski said:
they lined up and ran right at everyone on their schedule with white and bush certainly would have stretched the field. people forget how unbelievable that Oline was too.
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Can't see them having nearly as much success running the ball against that kind of defense, especially with the huge passing threat taking a big hit. I don't think they get completely destroyed, but I take the Canes by 17-20.
 
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the nfl numbers speak to the talent on the team (sc had quite a few nfl players as well), but i'd take chow and carroll over coker any day of the week. no way SC loses by 20. SC's D was no slouch either.
 
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droski said:
the nfl numbers speak to the talent on the team (sc had quite a few nfl players as well), but i'd take chow and carroll over coker any day of the week. no way SC loses by 20. SC's D was no slouch either.
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It seems to me that all the hype for the Trojans comes from the title game, against a team that only occasionally shows up to BCS bowls. Did they have any impressive regular season wins? I'm not trying to argue here, I was just wondering.

I agree USC had a better coaching staff, but I just can't see them getting enough offensive production. As good as their receiving corps was, the secondary they faced was, more or less, unfair.
 
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Another interesting stat I thought I'd throw out about the 2001 Canes defense. I can't remember the exact number, but I'm pretty sure they only gave up like 33 points in the first half all season.

Edit: I could be mistaken, but it looks like, outside the Florida State game, the 2001 Canes didn't give up any points in the second quarter all year.
 
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tvolsfan said:
It seems to me that all the hype for the Trojans comes from the title game, against a team that only occasionally shows up to BCS bowls. Did they have any impressive regular season wins? I'm not trying to argue here, I was just wondering.

I agree USC had a better coaching staff, but I just can't see them getting enough offensive production. As good as their receiving corps was, the secondary they faced was, more or less, unfair.
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August 28* vs. Virginia Tech #1 Landover, MD W 24-13 91,665
September 11* Colorado State 49-0
September 18* at BYU #1 LaVell Edwards Stadium • Provo, UT ESPN W 42-10
September 25 at Stanford #1 Stanford Stadium • Stanford, CA W 31-28 55,750
October 09 #7 California #1 Los Angeles Coliseum • Los Angeles, CA ABC W 23-17
October 16 #15 Arizona State #1 Los Angeles W 45-7 90,211
October 23 Washington #1 Los Angeles Coliseum W 38-0 72,855
October 30 at Washington State #1 Martin Stadium W 42-12
November 06 at Oregon State #1 Reser Stadium W 28-20
November 13† Arizona #1 Los Angeles Coliseum W 49-9
November 27* Notre Dame #1 Los Angeles Coliseum W 41-10
December 04 at UCLA #1 Rose Bowl W 29-24
January 04, 2005* vs. #2 Oklahoma #1 Dolphin Stadium • Miami Gardens, FL (Orange Bowl,
BCS National Championship Game) ABC W 55-19

A school-record 6 Trojans were awarded All-American first team honors in 2004: Matt Leinart, RB Reggie Bush, DE Shaun Cody, LB Matt Grootegoed, DT Mike Patterson and LB Lofa Tatupu. Wide receiver Dwayne Jarrett, offensive tackle Sam Baker and defensive end Lawrence Jackson were named to the Freshman All-American first team

As I said before they got better as the season went on. they had a lot of top freshman on that team. Looks like they were preseason #1 too.
 
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