'24 Transfer Portal

You read my post and decided it said what now?
you think that if someone questions the talent around here that they are all-negavol. you think we should just chill out and trust the coaches. i bet you said the same thing when dooley didnt sign one OL for an entire recruiting season. probably said "he knows what he is doing". there is nothing wrong with the way that people feel about the state of UT recruiting and transfer portal right now. Spyre claims to be the top collective around, and thats the way they present theirself, but they have not lived up to that this year. you can sing their praises, but 8th in the SEC and no real movement to try to get top tier transfers added to an 8-4 season leads to more 8-4. And I will save you the trouble and say it for you..."you negavols should be happy we are 8-4. i bet you would have been happy if you were 8-4 in a season over the last 20 years"
 
The one thing I'm growing concerned about that has been mentioned on this board by others as well, is Heupel's loyalty to current players.

Kiffin will go out and recruit guys regardless of who is still on his roster. For example he went out and signed Spenser Sanders last year as a grad transfer after starting 4 years at Oklahoma State as well as a former 5 star QB in Walker Howard despite having their starter, Jaxson Dart returning last year too. When questioned about the ethics of bringing all these guys in, he just responded that the goal of his as head coach was to make the team better and improve the QB room.

And now yet again, he isn't afraid to go after the top portal transfers. This after telling the media after the Ole Miss loss to Georgia that his roster wasn't good enough to compete.

I am noy completely bashing the loyal, familial culture Heupel has built, but it has negatives with the positives and maybe he needs to give a little more.
And hunters slaughter baby seals every season...but NOT COMPLETELY. :cool:
 
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According to VQ the issue is 2 parts.

1. Guys learning on the job in the SEC. Like Alec this year and Kelsey Pope last year.
2. Our board is not wide enough to offset misses.

We put too many eggs in too few baskets and had
underexperienced guys take some lumps.

Josh likes to promote from within and it may work, but we've had growing pains. TE is the best example this year and WR (one take) was a good example last year.

Two other issues that hurt our recruiting efforts with some top prospects are (1) that other than last year we've been a CFB afterthought, and (2) the lack of NFL Draft picks. More sustained success in both areas, especially #2, will pay dividends.
 
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And I've acknowledged why we aren't pursuing Nolen ourselves. You questioned if OM was truly swinging hard. I showed you they are. Now you're moving the goalposts to "Yeah, but who will they land?". No idea who they'll actually get, but they're pursuing top talent.

I mean we are, too. Our offers and engagement with portal players has increased a lot these past few days. I just don’t think we’re THAT much less active than Ole Miss, which is I guess my only real point. I don’t think Nolen completely changes the outlook on who is swinging hard and who isn’t. Just my opinion. Feels like people are being harsh on our staff right now when it seems to me like we’ve actually gotten involved in quite a few recruitments.
 
It's interesting that Athlon is reporting OM is joined by Bama, Georgia, and Texas in pursuing Tyler Baron. If true, he's more highly thought of than many of us give him credit for.

I don’t think it’s that Tennessee doesn’t think highly of him. It’s that we don’t want to pay whatever obscene NIL he is apparently hunting for. There is difference, IMO. Clearly, he is a good player. But we have a lot of young talent that has the potential to be as good if not better and isn’t making demands of our staff.
 
I don’t think it’s that Tennessee doesn’t think highly of him. It’s that we don’t want to pay whatever obscene NIL he is apparently hunting for. There is difference, IMO. Clearly, he is a good player. But we have a lot of young talent that has the potential to be as good if not better and isn’t making demands of our staff.

I’m just convinced he truly doesn’t want to be a Vol considering this is twice now he’s been in the portal.

The NIL seems like an excuse.
 
I’m just convinced he truly doesn’t want to be a Vol considering this is twice now he’s been in the portal.

The NIL seems like an excuse.

Probably a bit of truth to that. I’m sure it’s a number of factors. It’s rarely ever just one thing. I’m also just not going to lose sleep over losing a guy that was never really expected to return anyway. Most thought he’d go to the draft. If not for COVID, he also would be out of eligibility. It is what it is. I’m fine with our DL.
 

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