Trump and Money Laundering

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Mick said:
So the Mob stiffed armed Trump and made the brilliant businessman pay way over market value?
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Would it have been better if the mob cut him a deal under market value? You guys would scream foul about that, also.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
And then in return I asked you to explain how $150-400 million of viggorish or skim from Trump would benefit some sinister outfit.

Then I got crickets.
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I'm no expert in money laundering but I will try to entertain you. I don't think anyone is accusing trump of laundering $150-400 million of his own ill gotten gains through his golf club but his cut could easily be hidden in membership fees and his now defunct charity. He's pretty shameless.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Would it have been better if the mob cut him a deal under market value? You guys would scream foul about that, also.
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Since the mob controlled the market and he paid more for the same concrete in the same market he was funneling money for the mob. If the mob cut him a deal under market value he might have actually been able to write The Art of the Deal.
 
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"Based on Internal Revenue Service transcripts of Trump’s tax returns from 1985 to 1994, the Times report said that Trump’s core businesses racked up losses of more than a billion dollars in a ten-year period. During 1990 and 1991, the story said, Trump’s losses were so large that they 'were more than double those of the nearest taxpayers in the I.R.S. information for those years.'”

Donald Trump’s Business Failures Were Very Real
 
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Mick said:
I'm no expert in money laundering but I will try to entertain you. I don't think anyone is accusing trump of laundering $150-400 million of his own ill gotten gains through his golf club but his cut could easily be hidden in membership fees and his now defunct charity. He's pretty shameless.
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No no... that isn't what the UK investigation is suggesting. They are specifically questioning where he got the money to finance the big projects without any debt. Now you are moving the goalposts. That is why I'm using the $150-400 million number.

evillawyer said:
The biggest Trump financial mystery? Where he came up with the cash for his Scottish resorts.
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NEOCON said:
Ok......there are a few ways he could.


He could take the cash from someone via a large loss that is still under the radar such as 8k at one of his casinos.

He then takes that cash and funnels it back to a business he contracts with and simply goes with a bid that is 8k higher.

He has then effectively taken dirty money and sent it back as clean.

This would have to be tracked by auditing his books and seeing if a certain contractor always bid high and trump signed off where other bids were much lower.

This is just one example.

I highly doubt this is happening but it's a way.


I also hate myself for giving the libs on here ideas and now I need to take a shower.
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OK, now put on your thinking cap and use your imagination. The OP posted an article that suggests that Trump was laundering money, and in turn, was able to build resorts in the UK without any financing, ranging from $150-400 million. How much cash and at what rate would Trump be able to pull out a skim or vig in that amount? 10%? 5%? 20% You're talking about BILLIONS of dollars that would have been sloshing around for him to get that. That kind of money draws attention and can't be hidden too easily.
 
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VolStrom said:
So your idea is that the president of the United States, who is wealthy in his own right, is laundering money for someone else?
You can't make this story up, it has to be true.
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How do you know he is "wealthy in his own right"? You must have seen his tax returns?
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
OK, now put on your thinking cap and use your imagination. The OP posted an article that suggests that Trump was laundering money, and in turn, was able to build resorts in the UK without any financing, ranging from $150-400 million. How much cash and at what rate would Trump be able to pull out a skim or vig in that amount? 10%? 5%? 20% You're talking about BILLIONS of dollars that would have been sloshing around for him to get that. That kind of money draws attention and can't be hidden too easily.
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Oh I never said billions.

I think you could launder maybe 2 to 3 mill a year this way.

I was just saying how u could launder.
 
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All this talk really goes back to the 2000's Russia situation again.

Russians had huge amounts of mob money that needed to be laundered.

A useful idiot named Donald Trump was in dire straits and needed said money.

Trump had the real estate connections in the US, and enabled the purchase of these properties with mob money.

No requirements in place to show the origin of said money existed.

"Clean" property exchanged for dirty mob money.

And... voila... money laundered.

Donald gets his cut.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
No no... that isn't what the UK investigation is suggesting. They are specifically questioning where he got the money to finance the big projects without any debt. Now you are moving the goalposts. That is why I'm using the $150-400 million number.
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You have got to be kidding right? Moving the goalpost? Yea I shouldn't have let you go to bed without your nite nite story about how Trump's golf club could launder money.
 
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MontyPython said:
All this talk really goes back to the 2000's Russia situation again.

Russians had huge amounts of mob money that needed to be laundered.

A useful idiot named Donald Trump was in dire straits and needed said money.

Trump had the real estate connections in the US, and enabled the purchase of these properties with mob money.

No requirements in place to show the origin of said money existed.

"Clean" property exchanged for dirty mob money.

And... voila... money laundered.

Donald gets his cut.
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They will probably find the evidence buried right next to President Obama's birth certificate.



Yes............That is how mind-numbingly stupid you sound.
 
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Sandman 423 said:
They will probably find the evidence buried right next to President Obama's birth certificate.



Yes............That is how mind-numbingly stupid you sound.
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Mhmmm. Because... what? Trump is an ethical, moral man who'd never act dishonestly to make millions of bucks? Now THAT'S stupid.

Then again, I mean, Trump was in bed with reputable firms like *cough* Deutsche Bank.

The Guardian:

Deutsche Bank faces action over $20bn Russian money-laundering scheme

"Over two decades, Trump borrowed more than $2bn from Deutsche. In 2008, he defaulted on a $45m loan repayment and sued the bank. Its private wealth division in New York subsequently loaned Trump a further $300m – a move that bemused insiders and which has yet to be fully explained.

In recent years, the bank has had a series of bruising encounters with international regulators. Between 2011 and 2018, it paid $14.5bn in fines, with exposure to dubious Russian money a regular theme.
 
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I'm impressed with Patrick Harvie, the co-leader of the Scottish Green Party.

Plan for huge Trump Turnberry expansion sparks call for investigation
Trump’s firm has commissioned a detailed masterplan to develop hundreds of homes, retail and leisure facilities on farmland at the golf resort it owns at Turnberry.

Patrick Harvie - "The Trump Organisation has repeatedly proved itself to be an irresponsible and environmentally damaging developer, and a bad neighbour once they get established. South Ayrshire Council would be well advised not to let them influence their local development plan, and to be up front and open with the local community about the issues being decided,” said Harvie.

“Beyond this particular development, we should be very wary of allowing Scotland’s name to be further associated with the toxic Trump brand. The man himself is a delusional bully, an advocate of climate denial and other dangerous conspiracy theories, and he has actively promoted the views of fascists. His personal finances have never been transparent, and rather than letting him help himself to another piece of Scotland’s tourism industry we should be going to court to seek an unexplained wealth order, to start casting some light on his business dealings.”
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This all reads more like an afluent HOA trying to get the idiot redneck who won the lottery kicked out of the neighborhood, than an international money laundering scandal to me.

Throw a bunch of conflated TDS sh!t at the wall to see what sticks. Get left leaning media and the democrats to carry water for you.
Well played Patrick Harvie, well played.




By the way. Does anybody know what Obama's net worth was Nov 2008 and what it was Nov 2016?
The Kenyaan allegations were absurd, but there's a strong possibility he's the Nigerian Prince scamming all those people. He was in on it with Hilary. They used her e-mail server.
 
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evillawyer said:
Been seeing a lot lately on how Trump may be using Turnberry in Scotland to launder money. Adam Davidson of the New Yorker appears to have a story in the works on it. This is from Mother Jones. Scottish authorities are looking at possible money laundering. Even if he's not laundering money, this is not a good thing for Trump since he's throwing a lot of money down the drain apparently.

The biggest Trump financial mystery? Where he came up with the cash for his Scottish resorts.
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Can’t get Trump out of your head...pffffttt🙈
 
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evillawyer said:
Been seeing a lot lately on how Trump may be using Turnberry in Scotland to launder money. Adam Davidson of the New Yorker appears to have a story in the works on it. This is from Mother Jones. Scottish authorities are looking at possible money laundering. Even if he's not laundering money, this is not a good thing for Trump since he's throwing a lot of money down the drain apparently.

The biggest Trump financial mystery? Where he came up with the cash for his Scottish resorts.
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Give it a break man. Why don't you focus on posting some of the positive things that the new administration is making happen







(Oh yeah, I forgot. There are none)
 
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