Trump called Roseanne Barr to congratulate her on huge ratings success

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McDad said:
I get your larger point, I think.
I refuse to give another person power over me and my emotions by calling me names; even if they have ill intent. And believe me, I've been called plenty of unsavory names.
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I'm the same way. I agree. (And I have as well.)
 
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Grand Vol said:
Funny that even Mel Brooks said he could never make that movie today.

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Grand Vol said:
One more because it's one of the greatest comedies of all time.

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McDad said:
We're losing something very valuable here.
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ClearwaterVol said:
All in the Family probably couldn't be made today.
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BowlBrother85 said:
It would have to be animated (for some reason that takes away the edge). "Family Guy" is heavily influenced by "All in the Family". Peter Griffin is Archie Bunker on steroids.

Parker and Stone of "South Park" have referred to Cartman as Archie's illegitimate grandson.
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The difference is context.


Blazing Saddles is poking fun at racial stereotypes. All in the Family is poking fun at people in the 70s who were clinging to racial stereotypes just as the young generation was making the biggest strides in our history to overcome them.


South Park is making fun of all of it.


None of that discussion of racial stereotypes was done in a mean-spirited or degrading fashion. Barr tweeting that VJ looked like she had been parented by an ape and a Muslim is not offered in that context. Barr's incredibly lame claim later that it was a bad joke is belied by the context of the rest of it and her tweets of late that are increasingly vitriolic.


The examples you cite are funny because they make fun either of racism or political correctness about racism. Barr's tweet is not remotely the same.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The difference is context.


Blazing Saddles is poking fun at racial stereotypes. All in the Family is poking fun at people in the 70s who were clinging to racial stereotypes just as the young generation was making the biggest strides in our history to overcome them.


South Park is making fun of all of it.


None of that discussion of racial stereotypes was done in a mean-spirited or degrading fashion. Barr tweeting that VJ looked like she had been parented by an ape and a Muslim is not offered in that context. Barr's incredibly lame claim later that it was a bad joke is belied by the context of the rest of it and her tweets of late that are increasingly vitriolic.


The examples you cite are funny because they make fun either of racism or political correctness about racism. Barr's tweet is not remotely the same.
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That is the entire point of the Carlin bit I posted.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The examples you cite are funny because they make fun either of racism or political correctness about racism. Barr's tweet is not remotely the same.
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The examples I cited are funny as **** because Mel Brooks is a genius.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
That's very common, especially among teammates in sports. Brian Piccolo and Gale Sayers is a good example and their friendship was at the height of the civil rights movement.

In terms of race relations, Trump is absolutely the worst possible President to have at this time because he is so serious all the time. There is no sense of humor or a lightening of the mood. He stokes fear and resentment on one side and anger on the other while exploiting the divide.
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No the last one was the worst, he pushed divide along racial lines more than Trump ever could
 
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volfanjustin said:
She was fired for one reason, liking the President and second saying something controversial. If she hated the President and bashed him non stop on the show and made a similar statement about Condi Rice or Ben Carson the show would still be on today and there would not have been a crying fest on twitter yesterday.
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ABC was disappointed in the popularity of the show, looking for a way to cancel (taking liberal heat). Rosanne handed him the opportunity. If it had been a popular liberal show no one would have been fired.
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
ABC was disappointed in the popularity of the show, looking for a way to cancel (taking liberal heat). Rosanne handed him the opportunity. If it had been a popular liberal show no one would have been fired.
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Yes, ABC greenlighted and paid for the project and renewed it for a second season, but were upset that they would make money off it.


Do you actually think about what you're saying prior to hitting submit
 
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IPleadInsanity said:
ABC was disappointed in the popularity of the show, looking for a way to cancel (taking liberal heat). Rosanne handed him the opportunity. If it had been a popular liberal show no one would have been fired.
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ClearwaterVol said:
Yes, ABC greenlighted and paid for the project and renewed it for a second season, but were upset that they would make money off it.


Do you actually think about what you're saying prior to hitting submit
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His VN poster name is starting to make sense to me now. There is no other possible explanation.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Sure it's easy for me to say. You make it OK based on how it may or may not be received? OK. I'm a preacher. I make it not OK based on intent. I thought my post made that pretty clear.

And for the record, you sound pretty racist, insinuating that black people have thinner skin than white people. I guess it's OK to degrade the skin of other races if it's not about color, but thinness?
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I'd kindly ask you to refrain from putting words in my mouth, firstly.

I didn't insinuate anything. I plainly stated that comparing black folks to primates/savages (a la porchmonkey and spearchucker along with several visual depictions of them as apes) is an incredibly old and offensive dehumanization that will never -- and I mean NEVER -- compare to making fun of a white man's tacky tanning habits.

I get that you do the devil's advocate schtick as you've often admitted to it, and I think it's well placed amd intellectually challenging at times. This, however, is just in poor taste. ...
 
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luthervol said:
Nothing could be further from the truth. There was only one segment that felt Obama was a divider. You happen to fit into that demographic.
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Luther, this simply isn't true. One can objectively say that Obama united a specific socioeconomic group and certain philosophically kindred groups, but he definitely alienated a huge chunk. That alienation, in my opinion, is why the current Dickturd in Chief is where he is.
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Luther, this simply isn't true. One can objectively say that Obama united a specific socioeconomic group and certain philosophically kindred groups, but he definitely alienated a huge chunk. That alienation, in my opinion, is why the current Dickturd in Chief is where he is.
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Dinkmeister bringing the troof! :rock::rock::rock::rock:
 
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DinkinFlicka said:
Luther, this simply isn't true. One can objectively say that Obama united a specific socioeconomic group and certain philosophically kindred groups, but he definitely alienated a huge chunk. That alienation, in my opinion, is why the current Dickturd in Chief is where he is.
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I guess we would need to define "huge", and then look at commonalities within that group.
 
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