Trump called Roseanne Barr to congratulate her on huge ratings success

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BowlBrother85 said:
This is classic Trump for two reasons:

1) He loves to portray himself as an innocent victim. There is nothing innocent about Trump's antagonistic and combative public persona on social media. He has said many horrible things about other people unprovoked. Mean spirited behavior will usually be reciprocated.

2) He loves to use whatabout-ism (or whataboutery). This is the logical fallacy that attempts to discredit an opponent's position (in this case, Bob Iger of Disney) by charging them with hypocrisy without refuting or disproving their argument.
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He also loves to take what involves others and make it about him. Classic narcissism.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Once Trump is out of office, I have a feeling things might change but for now, members of the Trump cabinet and White House staff appear to be as shameless as he is.
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Hate on Monday
Hate on Tuesday
Hate on Wednesday
Hate on Thursday
Hate on Friday
Hate on Saturday
Hate on Sunday

Do you take a day off from hating? Or any special occasions?

Maybe when Trumps gone your hate will stop?
 
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Septic said:
Yes, we've all seen the rebukes from the conservative crowd when one there own makes a comment about Moochelle being a dude.

:good!:
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I dont like where this is headed. I want the freedom to make fun of those in politics. I want to pick at their flaws. I want to makes them into stereotypes and caricatures. Ideally, I'd like this to be free of PC, speech guardians using societal pressure to shame me into different behavior.
 
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McDad said:
I dont like where this is headed. I want the freedom to make fun of those in politics. I want to pick at their flaws. I want to makes them into stereotypes and caricatures. Ideally, I'd like this to be free of PC, speech guardians using societal pressure to shame me into different behavior.
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I'll make fun of anyone in the political arena that I damn well want. :hi:
 
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Our society needs to watch Blazzing Saddles repeatedly until we can laugh at ourselves and others again.
 
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McDad said:
Our society needs to watch Blazzing Saddles repeatedly until we can laugh at ourselves and others again.
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That's a good point, and a loose part of my point.

Many here get all hung up on words and audiences. I am hung up on motive and intent.

I have close friends that I call disparaging names all the time in jest and good nature. They take it as a joke. We laugh. There was nothing heinous in the insult.

There are others that I can say a normally unnoticed word to and it would crush them.

How does intent to hurt someone become gradiently more acceptable to some than others? And how do you justify offenses against some as more acceptable than offenses against others?
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That's a good point, and a loose part of my point.

Many here get all hung up on words and audiences. I am hung up on motive and intent.

I have close friends that I call disparaging names all the time in jest and good nature. They take it as a joke. We laugh. There was nothing heinous in the insult.

There are others that I can say a normally unnoticed word to and it would crush them.

How does intent to hurt someone become gradiently more acceptable to some than others? And how do you justify offenses against some as more acceptable than offenses against others?
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By the col... I mean, thickness of their skin.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That's a good point, and a loose part of my point.

Many here get all hung up on words and audiences. I am hung up on motive and intent.

I have close friends that I call disparaging names all the time in jest and good nature. They take it as a joke. We laugh. There was nothing heinous in the insult.

There are others that I can say a normally unnoticed word to and it would crush them.

How does intent to hurt someone become gradiently more acceptable to some than others? And how do you justify offenses against some as more acceptable than offenses against others?
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I get your larger point, I think.
I refuse to give another person power over me and my emotions by calling me names; even if they have ill intent. And believe me, I've been called plenty of unsavory names.
 
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McDad said:
Our society needs to watch Blazzing Saddles repeatedly until we can laugh at ourselves and others again.
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Funny that even Mel Brooks said he could never make that movie today.

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Orange_Crush said:
That's a good point, and a loose part of my point.

Many here get all hung up on words and audiences. I am hung up on motive and intent.

I have close friends that I call disparaging names all the time in jest and good nature. They take it as a joke. We laugh. There was nothing heinous in the insult.

There are others that I can say a normally unnoticed word to and it would crush them.

How does intent to hurt someone become gradiently more acceptable to some than others? And how do you justify offenses against some as more acceptable than offenses against others?
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That's very common, especially among teammates in sports. Brian Piccolo and Gale Sayers is a good example and their friendship was at the height of the civil rights movement.

In terms of race relations, Trump is absolutely the worst possible President to have at this time because he is so serious all the time. There is no sense of humor or a lightening of the mood. He stokes fear and resentment on one side and anger on the other while exploiting the divide.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
All in the Family probably couldn't be made today.
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It would have to be animated (for some reason that takes away the edge). "Family Guy" is heavily influenced by "All in the Family". Peter Griffin is Archie Bunker on steroids.

Parker and Stone of "South Park" have referred to Cartman as Archie's illegitimate grandson.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
It would have to be animated (for some reason that takes away the edge). "Family Guy" is heavily influenced by "All in the Family". Peter Griffin is Archie Bunker on steroids.

Parker and Stone of "South Park" have referred to Cartman as Archie's illegitimate grandson.
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Agree with all.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
All in the Family probably couldn't be made today.
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You don't have to go that far back to find content where you have to wonder WTF was going on back then.

I was dying watching this last night

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SE1SWashuU[/youtube]
 
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Orange_Crush said:
That's my point. I'm actually starting to believe that Trump is perfectly comfortable making himself a cultural mirror and using Twitter to force culture to look at themselves.

I find it amazing that one can get on here and say, "Why is it OK to attack anyone? Why not call for everyone to treat everyone with mutual respect? Why does anyone have an 'out' on respect and kindness?"

And get attacked for it.

While everyone attacks Trump for having no respect or kindness.


lol
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Holding up the mirror is my job.
 
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