Trump promises and proposals tracking thread.

[jmacvols1]

I’m confused why any large detaining facility is necessary. At the current pace of 500+ illegals ICE are finding daily, seems like they can be returned to their country of origin as quickly as they’ve found?

Is ICE somehow going to start finding thousands daily?

I did a little reading and this is what I found Trump said:

"We have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people," he said. "Some of them are so bad we don't even trust the countries to hold them, because we don't want them coming back. So we're going to send them out to Guantanamo."

Trump says U.S. will send "worst criminal illegal aliens" to Guantanamo Bay

President Trump said he wants to prep Guantanamo Bay for "the worst criminal illegal aliens."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[walkenvol]

I did a little reading and this is what I found Trump said:

"We have 30,000 beds in Guantanamo to detain the worst criminal illegal aliens threatening the American people," he said. "Some of them are so bad we don't even trust the countries to hold them, because we don't want them coming back. So we're going to send them out to Guantanamo."

Trump says U.S. will send "worst criminal illegal aliens" to Guantanamo Bay

President Trump said he wants to prep Guantanamo Bay for "the worst criminal illegal aliens."

www.cbsnews.com

Makes one ask if we’re securing the border, how would they come back?

 

[jmacvols1]

Makes one ask if we’re securing the border, how would they come back?

there's more than just one way to get into the country than just the southern border.

Why complain, aren't you happy at least violent criminals are now being removed by Trump rather than be allowed in by Biden?

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[walkenvol]

there's more than just one way to get into the country than just the southern border.

Why complain, aren't you happy at least violent criminals are now being removed by Trump rather than be allowed in by Biden?

Not complaining - still trying to understand everything new that’s happening since 1/20

 

[LouderVol]

how would flooding the market with more money, via less income tax, REDUCE inflation? If anything it would increase it.

I also fail to see how it would bring jobs back to America.

 

[hog88]

how would flooding the market with more money, via less income tax, REDUCE inflation? If anything it would increase it.

I also fail to see how it would bring jobs back to America.

Inflation is caused by an increase in the money supply, people simply keeping their money doesn't raise inflation as long as the govt isn't printing money to cover it's bills.

 

[LouderVol]

Inflation is caused by an increase in the money supply, people simply keeping their money doesn't raise inflation as long as the govt isn't printing money to cover it's bills.

he talks about "raising growth", which is just an awkward turn of phrase imo.

I assumed that meant spending. especially if its supposed to be bringing back work to this country.

 

[hog88]

he talks about "raising growth", which is just an awkward turn of phrase imo.

I assumed that meant spending. especially if its supposed to be bringing back work to this country.

Tax cuts coupled with increased govt spending (creating money) will absolutely increase inflation, no question about that. But tax increases coupled with increased govt spending (creating money) will also increase inflation. There is one common denominator that causes inflation.

 

[hndog609]

Makes one ask if we’re securing the border, how would they come back?

In my head I would think the approach would be something like:

We're deporting them now and these worst of the worst going forward are to be considered terrorists if ever again found on US soil. This will be explained to them on departure in such a way as to make ambiguity impossible, like showing a video of Gitmo and saying "If you're found here again you're going there.".

I suppose there might actually be people so bad you really are tempted to just Gitmo them now but I'm hesitant to just have that be option 1.

 

[LouderVol]

Tax cuts coupled with increased govt spending (creating money) will absolutely increase inflation, no question about that. But tax increases coupled with increased govt spending (creating money) will also increase inflation. There is one common denominator that causes inflation.

but even if the people just started spending their extra money that would also cause inflation. We are Americans, we don't save money. far more would spend all that "new" money, and not save one penny more.

 

[hog88]

but even if the people just started spending their extra money that would also cause inflation. We are Americans, we don't save money. far more would spend all that "new" money, and not save one penny more.

No, that’s not the case. Inflation is the result of government creating more money which devalues the money already in circulation. The existing money supply will be spent by either government or private parties so people simply having more money in hand won’t cause inflation.

 

[LouderVol]

No, that’s not the case. Inflation is the result of government creating more money which devalues the money already in circulation. The existing money supply will be spent by either government or private parties so people simply having more money in hand won’t cause inflation.

our current inflation is caused by the government creating money out of nothing. but inflation can absolutely be created by a sudden, vast, 25-40%, increase in spending by private individuals.

you would see the same issue we saw with EVs when the government was handing out 5k credits. cost went up 5k. inflation.

same thing would happen with people suddenly spending more money, costs would go up. either just due to meeting demand, or just because people have that money spend and the seller knows it.

inflation isn't 100% based on the value of the dollar.

 

[hog88]

our current inflation is caused by the government creating money out of nothing. but inflation can absolutely be created by a sudden, vast, 25-40%, increase in spending by private individuals.

you would see the same issue we saw with EVs when the government was handing out 5k credits. cost went up 5k. inflation.

same thing would happen with people suddenly spending more money, costs would go up. either just due to meeting demand, or just because people have that money spend and the seller knows it.

inflation isn't 100% based on the value of the dollar.

True, localized (spot) inflation can be caused by a shortage in product/material but having a set money supply prevents across the board inflation and people spending wouldn't affect that.

 

[jmacvols1]

how would flooding the market with more money, via less income tax, REDUCE inflation? If anything it would increase it.

I also fail to see how it would bring jobs back to America.

Gov't is the only thing that causes inflation by huge deficit spending and printing money. Gov't needs to quit it.

 

[jmacvols1]

 

[VolinMichigan]

Where are my cheap eggs guys? And I paid 15$ for a bag of coffee beans the other day. It was 10$ when Biden was president. Inflation ticking up. No Fed rate cuts. Trump needs to get his magic wand and make everything better like he promised.

 

[VOLS INC.]

Where are my cheap eggs guys? And I paid 15$ for a bag of coffee beans the other day. It was 10$ when Biden was president. Inflation ticking up. No Fed rate cuts. Trump needs to get his magic wand and make everything better like he promised.

How much is your vagisil? It still around the same price? Or nah

 

[walkenvol]

Where are my cheap eggs guys? And I paid 15$ for a bag of coffee beans the other day. It was 10$ when Biden was president. Inflation ticking up. No Fed rate cuts. Trump needs to get his magic wand and make everything better like he promised.

Publix always has coffee bogo choices!

 

[Septic]

How much is your vagisil? It still around the same price? Or nah

Are you suggesting that the high prices of goods and services aren't worthy of discussion now? Can't wait to see you MAGA loons bob and weave if trump is stupid enough to implement his tariff plan.

 

[VOLS INC.]

Are you suggesting that the high prices of goods and services aren't worthy of discussion now? Can't wait to see you MAGA loons bob and weave if trump is stupid enough to implement his tariff plan.

Absolutely not. As soon as Trump names his new economic policy, we will all do what the leftist did and just pretend like everything is fine.

“We call that Trumpenomics!”

Meh. Need a better name I guess.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Are you suggesting that the high prices of goods and services aren't worthy of discussion now? Can't wait to see you MAGA loons bob and weave if trump is stupid enough to implement his tariff plan.

The prices are worthy of a discussion of course but the reduction of cost for the goods will take time. Trump walked into this similar to when Biden took office dealing with supply chain issues. The fix didn't happen overnight.

 

[Septic]

The prices are worthy of a discussion of course but the reduction of cost for the goods will take time. Trump walked into this similar to when Biden took office dealing with supply chain issues. The fix didn't happen overnight.

Raising the price of goods and services through tariffs will happen overnight with immediate effect.

Also, we were told that what happens during the president's administration belongs to him and that presidency's happen in vacuums.

Or are you suggesting that presidents don't have as much control over inflationary processes, supply and demand economics and supply chain issues as some would have me believe?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

Raising the price of goods and services through tariffs will happen overnight.

Also, we were told that what happens during the president's administration belongs to him and that presidency's happen in vacuums.

Or are you suggesting that presidents don't have as much control over inflationary processes, supply and demand economics and supply chain issues as some would have me believe?

My point was that a POTUS can inherit a or problems and gave two examples for each party without bias. It makes sense to give the POTUS a reasonable amount of time to resolve the issue. BTW, I am not always 100 percent on board with the bold comments.

 

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