TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

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lawgator1 said:
No.

No, no, no, no, no.

No.

Wray and one other viewed it over the weekend and asked to take it back so the people who know what happened could review it. Nunes said no.

It is very misleading to say those two found no inaccuracies because they don't know what is and is not accurate. They asked to have it seen by people who would and that was denied.

Your reiteration of the misleading Fox talking point is noted.
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So anyone repeating anything from Fox is a talking point, but you guys repeating CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, NYT, WaPo, etc is rock solid analysis backed by hard facts. :eek:k:
 
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#2,179
Vol0725 said:
Why u always be bein'?


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I get very frustrated by bad logic and intentional skewing of facts.

For example, I am perfectly fine with saying that under Trump, taxes have been lowered and business confidence is way up, increasing consumer confidence, which is boosting the economy.

That to me is demonstrably true based on fact.

It would be wrong to say that the ONLY reason the economy is better is Trump. That is demonstrably false.

Similarly, it is technically correct to say that the two FBI people that saw the memo did not say they saw inaccuracies. It is terribly misleading to claim that means either that there are none, or that they knew what to look for or in any way approved of the content.

To the contrary, they asked to take it back to have people that would know decide if it is correct. That was denied.

For example, neither one of them at the time said anything about global warming being true. That does not mean by implication that they were in a position to comment on it.

This has been a classic Fox trick for some time. Take what didn't happen and imply that it's absence is proof of anything. It's just not. And it pizzes me off when they keep doing it. It's terribly dishonest.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You are asking the wrong questions. It's not about whether jobs are created here or there. It's about whether they are able to expand government for their benefit. The fact that you are asking at the "economy" level is a sure indication that you don't know what is being discussed.

You're asking if they are happy with trumps decisions that have had little effect on a market that is about to crash. Obama and the democrats just shoved legislation down our throats that forces every American to purchase a product or the government fines then.

You're asking about "trumps economy" (whatever that is), when less than a decade ago, the liberal democrats and neocons raided us citizen taxpayer money to bail out a criminal banking industry instead of throwing them all in jail.

Back to the down of this conversation. Why do the corporations lean left? Because the have bought our government, and the bigger it gets, the more power they have. Don't ask the questions if you don't want the answers.
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That was an extremely long non-answer. But I'll take your word for it. Big business likes the dems.
 
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ajvol01 said:
So anyone repeating anything from Fox is a talking point, but you guys repeating CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, NYT, WaPo, etc is rock solid analysis backed by hard facts. :eek:k:
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They use bad logic, too. But in my experience to a much lesser degree than does Fox. I find them, by far, to be the worst offender.
 
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Mick said:
I'm interested in what questions will arise after one sifts through the innuendos and accusations.
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Well now i know it's accurate, because Pelosi (who's not read) said it's misleading, safe bet to take the other side of her innuendos.

Pelosi Clashes With Chris Cuomo on Nunes Memo: ‘You Really Don’t Know What You’re Talking About’ | Mediaite

God I pray they keep this clown around!

Pelosi Meltdown Over Memo: Lies, Forgets Nunes' Name, Makes Up Intelligence Agency & More

The only reckless people on Capitol Hill right now are Pelosi and her fellow Democrats, who continue to lie, disparage, and put down any and all people who are asking for the truth about this matter. Oh well, at least her recklessness makes for a good laugh. Carry on. Release the memo.
 
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golfballs said:
So he's a partisan but Schiff and other Dems aren't?
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Of course they all are (but not equally) which makes it a logical conclusion for all thinking people that the memos should be released simultaneously. Anything else can be seen as an admission of guilt by Trump.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I heard this the other day. Wonder what the OIG thing is about.
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Lol. It’s been hinted at for a long time now. He’s involved in an attempted coup along with Obama and Hillary. People will end up in jail over this.

The fact that CBS is reporting this is indicitave of what’s coming.
 
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luthervol said:
Anything else can be seen as an admission of guilt by Trump.
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"Can be seen as an admission of guilt..." Said with a straight face by the guy who has already said on multiple occasions that he's already convinced of Trump's guilt. Lol.

Well, duh! Everything you see can be interpreted as an admission of guilt.

You've made yourself a joke, Luther.
 
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luthervol said:
Of course they all are (but not equally) which makes it a logical conclusion for all thinking people that the memos should be released simultaneously. Anything else can be seen as an admission of guilt by Trump.
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I've literally never known anyone to have such strong opinions based on so little evidence.

It's disturbing.
 
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ajvol01 said:
So anyone repeating anything from Fox is a talking point, but you guys repeating CNN, MSNBC, CNBC, NYT, WaPo, etc is rock solid analysis backed by hard facts. :eek:k:
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That's because Fox is so much worse than any of the other legitimate news sources you listed.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I get very frustrated by bad logic and intentional skewing of facts.

For example, I am perfectly fine with saying that under Trump, taxes have been lowered and business confidence is way up, increasing consumer confidence, which is boosting the economy.

That to me is demonstrably true based on fact.

It would be wrong to say that the ONLY reason the economy is better is Trump. That is demonstrably false.

Similarly, it is technically correct to say that the two FBI people that saw the memo did not say they saw inaccuracies. It is terribly misleading to claim that means either that there are none, or that they knew what to look for or in any way approved of the content.

To the contrary, they asked to take it back to have people that would know decide if it is correct. That was denied.

For example, neither one of them at the time said anything about global warming being true. That does not mean by implication that they were in a position to comment on it.

This has been a classic Fox trick for some time. Take what didn't happen and imply that it's absence is proof of anything. It's just not. And it pizzes me off when they keep doing it. It's terribly dishonest.
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How might one interpret, "no factual inaccuracies"?
Is that to be discounted, being that it remained at an onsite secure location?

Pertenant to article piece below:

Two senior FBI officials have now reviewed a controversial Republican staff memo alleging abuses of government surveillance programs during the 2016 presidential campaign, a source familiar with the matter told Fox News – adding that the officials “could not point to any factual inaccuracies.”

The two officials – one from the bureau’s counterintelligence division and the other from the legal division – followed up after an initial review of the memo during a rare Sunday trip to Capitol Hill by FBI Director Christopher Wray.
 
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