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#28,378
evillawyer said:
Two separate things. The taxes allegedly show that he paid next to nothing in federal taxes. Loan documents show he had Russian co-signers closely aligned with Putin.
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No **** sherlock.

For your sake let's hope that this source isn't FOS.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Biden goes through his son to do his shady work.
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If Biden has an quid pro quo relationship with a hostile foreign entity which he wants to leverage in the pursuit of the presidency, then he should spend his final days in prison.

Such acts are anathema to our democratic values.

That this a partisan issue for so many is, frankly, a tragedy.
 
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evillawyer said:
Two separate things. The taxes allegedly show that he paid next to nothing in federal taxes. Loan documents show he had Russian co-signers closely aligned with Putin.
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To your first point:

This is what the crying for his tax returns has been all about. It’s why Trump hasn’t released them. He doesn’t want the Romney treatment. The Dems love to claim stuff like “his secretary paid more.” Which is bull **** from a $ amount perspective. But the uneducated lap it up. We some moron in here earlier claiming Amazon paid no taxes last year. They paid close to a billion dollars in taxes last year. Yes they paid no business income tax but that’s due to huge losses early on.

To your second point:

Very problematic for Trump if true. And all those bashing Biden need to stfu. But the key would be if it’s true.
 
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evillawyer said:
Two separate things. The taxes allegedly show that he paid next to nothing in federal taxes. Loan documents show he had Russian co-signers closely aligned with Putin.
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If that is true... the optics are atrocious. That is an old method for laundering money. Co-signers almost always end up paying at least some portion of the loan.... most banks will refuse a co-signer unless it is clear that they are also gaining something from the loan itself. When it's a family member (usually a parent), that is easily determined, but if it's a Russian oligarch? Deutsche Bank should also have obtained documentation of what the co-signers had to gain from the loan. Nobody assumes such a responsibility for nothing in return.
 
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FLVOL_79 said:
Biden has made 15 million dollars after leaving the VP position per his tax returns. More in 2 years than in his entire 44 year career.

Wait..you didn't scour his tax returns?!
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And how did he use the VP office again? Did he do something for the Chinese?
 
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#28,391
1972 Grad said:
You wouldn't believe it anyway. Your mind is like concrete.....all mixed up and permanently set. Democrats can do no wrong. More than likely, you are nothing more than a paid troll, however.
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Senior editor-at-large of far-right media organization Breitbart and the author of Clinton Cash. His track record sucks. I hope you got dumb after a long life and you didn't have to walk around like that for the entirety of it
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If that is true... the optics are atrocious. That is an old method for laundering money. Co-signers almost always end up paying at least some portion of the loan.... most banks will refuse a co-signer unless it is clear that they are also gaining something from the loan itself. When it's a family member (usually a parent), that is easily determined, but if it's a Russian oligarch? Deutsche Bank should also have obtained documentation of what the co-signers had to gain from the loan. Nobody assumes such a responsibility for nothing in return.
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None of this is surprising when you know the history:

1) Laundering dirty money has always been the primary function of New York City real estate.

2) Trump's grandfather needed to buy property to wash his take from Gold Rush brothels in Alaska, so that is how this all got started.

3) At a certain point the mafioso community in the Northeast went more or less legit, at least to the point where they could wash their own money through their frontline legal ventures.

4) That left a lot of dormant laundrymats like Trump Inc. looking for new clients. That is where the Russians come in.

5) The Russian mafia is not an independent organization like the Italians that New Yorkers were used to working with. Those old guys had government and police on the payroll, but in Russia the mafia is on the payroll of the state, an extension of the Kremlin in the post-Soviet reality.

6) This unprecedented occurrence of a major state becoming a de facto organized crime family is why many people believe Vladimir Putin is the wealthiest, and most powerful, person on earth.
 
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Mick said:
Senior editor-at-large of far-right media organization Breitbart and the author of Clinton Cash. His track record sucks. I hope you got dumb after a long life and you didn't have to walk around like that for the entirety of it
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What part of this story isn't true? All you do is attack the messenger when you can't attack the message.
 
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Rifleman said:
None of this is surprising when you know the history:

1) Laundering dirty money has always been the primary function of New York City real estate.

2) Trump's grandfather needed to buy property to wash his take from Gold Rush brothels in Alaska, so that is how this all got started.

3) At a certain point the mafioso community in the Northeast went more or less legit, at least to the point where they could wash their own money through their frontline legal ventures.

4) That left a lot of dormant laundrymats like Trump Inc. looking for new clients. That is where the Russians come in.

5) The Russian mafia is not an independent organization like the Italians that New Yorkers were used to working with. Those old guys had government and police on the payroll, but in Russia the mafia is on the payroll of the state, an extension of the Kremlin in the post-Soviet reality.

6) This unprecedented occurrence of a major state becoming a de facto organized crime family is why many people believe Vladimir Putin is the wealthiest, and most powerful, person on earth.
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Sounds like............................................................................................................................................................




YGHN!
 
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volfanhill said:
To your first point:

This is what the crying for his tax returns has been all about. It’s why Trump hasn’t released them. He doesn’t want the Romney treatment. The Dems love to claim stuff like “his secretary paid more.” Which is bull **** from a $ amount perspective. But the uneducated lap it up. We some moron in here earlier claiming Amazon paid no taxes last year. They paid close to a billion dollars in taxes last year. Yes they paid no business income tax but that’s due to huge losses early on.

To your second point:

Very problematic for Trump if true. And all those bashing Biden need to stfu. But the key would be if it’s true.
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It's not a problem even if true. Trump as a brand is an international business entity, I'm sure they have done deals with people from many different countries some probably have ties to other foreign leaders. Plus the idea that these oligarchs "co-signed" for a loan is ludicrous. They might be on the loan paperwork as part of whatever deal they were working on but wording it a co-signers like you would co-sign a car loan for your kid is designed to elicit responses from the ignorant.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
If that is true... the optics are atrocious. That is an old method for laundering money. Co-signers almost always end up paying at least some portion of the loan.... most banks will refuse a co-signer unless it is clear that they are also gaining something from the loan itself. When it's a family member (usually a parent), that is easily determined, but if it's a Russian oligarch? Deutsche Bank should also have obtained documentation of what the co-signers had to gain from the loan. Nobody assumes such a responsibility for nothing in return.
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My point above just made.
 
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Mick said:
Senior editor-at-large of far-right media organization Breitbart and the author of Clinton Cash. His track record sucks. I hope you got dumb after a long life and you didn't have to walk around like that for the entirety of it
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Do you really think that the NYT or Wash Post would dig into this? Breitbart only exists because they won't do their job.
 
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Mick said:
And how did he use the VP office again? Did he do something for the Chinese?
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He used the VP office to enrich himself..what about his taxes don't you understand. Same thing for Obama. Does Obama land a Netflix deal without being President? Nope.
 
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Mick said:
First, one must vet the source. I'm still waiting on that message since I'm stuck on CNN. What did Biden supposedly do?
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Read it. Can you not read?

The conclusion, and I quote....."In short, the Chinese government was literally funding a business that it co-owned along with the sons of two of America's most powerful decision makers."


Also: "Often those foreign entities gained favorable policy actions from the United States government just as the sons were securing favorable financial deals from those same entities."
 
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