TrumPutinGate

[MakeTNGrtAgain]

Former Trump associates Paul Manafort and Roger Stone have turned over documents to Senate Intel Committee.

Who reported this?

 

[k-town_king]

You're wanting cities to have total control over the rest of the state and certain cities control over the whole country. Is that just?

Who cares where voters live? One man, one vote. I want the people who get the most votes to be elected. Obviously that means more people agree with their views so the actual will of the people is served instead of fringe interests groups.

 

[hog88]

Who cares where voters live? One man, one vote. I want the people who get the most votes to be elected. Obviously that means more people agree with their views so the actual will of the people is served instead of fringe interests groups.

You need to run for office and propose some amendments then.

 

[k-town_king]

You need to run for office and propose some amendments then.

Good thing there are many people that are working towards modernizing our voter system.

 

[carlos86]

who reported this?

nbc.

 

[hog88]

Good thing there are many people that are working towards modernizing our voter system.

Not in either of our or our grandchildren's lifetimes. You'll never get enough states to adopt.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Good thing there are many people that are working towards modernizing our voter system.

The electoral college provides a check and balance to urban and costal dumb@$$ery. Arguing against this means you probably reside or align yourself with the brilliant minds in these bankrupt, crime ridden regions.

 

[MakeTNGrtAgain]

The electoral college provides a check and balance to urban and costal dumb@$$ery. Arguing against this means you probably reside or align yourself with the brilliant minds in these bankrupt, crime ridden regions.

Jackson, TN crime rate is 57% higher than the Tennessee average and is 95% higher than the national average.

 

[volfanhill]

Good thing there are many people that are working towards modernizing our voter system.

Lol if you think you are going to get 3/4 of the states to sign off on it.

 

[Jxn Vol]

Jackson, TN crime rate is 57% higher than the Tennessee average and is 95% higher than the national average.

Yep. That's why I live in NW Madison County, away from all the crap. Thank goodness the rural counties around here provide the aforementioned check and balance to all of the idiots that live in what is now called little Memphis.

 

[MakeTNGrtAgain]

Yep. That's why I live in NW Madison County, away from all the crap. Thank goodness the rural counties around here provide the aforementioned check and balance to all of the idiots that live in what is now called little Memphis.

madison county near the elephant sanctuary? I think the towns called hohenwald or something.

 

[k-town_king]

The electoral college provides a check and balance to urban and costal dumb@$$ery. Arguing against this means you probably reside or align yourself with the brilliant minds in these bankrupt, crime ridden regions.

That is not why it was implemented. It is not in the same form as the original EC. It used to be you voted locally for Electors who debated and then voted for POTUS. That is how it was designed. It is literally nothing like it was intended to be.

Those urban and coastal areas the places with the best standards of living, highest education levels and most healthy. I fail to see how giving the less educated, less healthy, and poorer areas more power is a positive. There are also many small, rural areas with horrible crime and crime rates higher than Chicago or any of your conservative boogeyman "scary" cities. It isn't talked about as much because they are so small.


Personally I don't care if there are more votes from the rural areas or urban. Neither is better than the other. We are all Americans and each vote should be equal.

 

[Jxn Vol]

madison county near the elephant sanctuary? I think the towns called hohenwald or something.

Hoenwald is an hour and a half east of here. Correct they do have the sanctuary there.

 

[k-town_king]

Yep. That's why I live in NW Madison County, away from all the crap. Thank goodness the rural counties around here provide the aforementioned check and balance to all of the idiots that live in what is now called little Memphis.

There are many more examples of small towns with bad crime nowhere near any city. You are wrong about the EC and crime. Most conservative only know talking points like you though.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/crime-rates-by-county/

False maps have been shared through social media since the election comparing county-level election results to crime maps, but The Washington Post Fact Checker and Snopes.com determined that the implied relationship between voting patterns and crime was fallacious.

The question remains, though, what does the U.S. crime rate look like across the country on a county-size scale?

Counties across the South, the Pacific Northwest, California, New Mexico and the lower Mississippi River area show the highest rates of crime adjusted for population in 2014.

 

[MakeTNGrtAgain]

Already researching Contempt of Congress charges on Flynn.

 

[hog88]

Already researching Contempt of Congress charges on Flynn.

lol:

I think we all know that charge is as good as the paper it's written on.

 

[Jxn Vol]

There are many more examples of small towns with bad crime nowhere near any city. You are wrong about the EC and crime. Most conservative only know talking points like you though.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/crime-rates-by-county/

False maps have been shared through social media since the election comparing county-level election results to crime maps, but The Washington Post Fact Checker and Snopes.com determined that the implied relationship between voting patterns and crime was fallacious.

The question remains, though, what does the U.S. crime rate look like across the country on a county-size scale?

Counties across the South, the Pacific Northwest, California, New Mexico and the lower Mississippi River area show the highest rates of crime adjusted for population in 2014.

You can make numbers show whatever you want the desired outcome to show. This map makes a peaceful place look violent by taking a sparsely populated area that has a couple of crimes and making it look violent. Try again.

 

[carlos86]

Already researching Contempt of Congress charges on Flynn.

They don't have to hold him in contempt. Just seek a civil judgement from a federal court declaring that Flynn is legally required to comply with the subpoena.

 

[k-town_king]

You can make numbers show whatever you want the desired outcome to show. This map makes a peaceful place look violent by taking a sparsely populated area that has a couple of crimes and making it look violent. Try again.

You are aware crime rates account for population right? That is why it is per 1000 people in the study. The numbers speak for themselves. Anytime people point out how dangerous some rural areas are yall cry about the small population. So on the same hand if the crime rate is lower in a big city but way more crimes due to size, why don't you acknowledge the large number of crimes is only due to high population?

Maybe you should actually look objectively at things instead repeating incorrect conservative talking points.

 

[Jxn Vol]

You are aware crime rates account for population right? That is why it is per 1000 people in the study. The numbers speak for themselves. Anytime people point out how dangerous some rural areas are yall cry about the small population. So on the same hand if the crime rate is lower in a big city but way more crimes due to size, why don't you acknowledge the large number of crimes is only due to high population?

Maybe you should actually look objectively at things instead repeating incorrect conservative talking points.

Making numbers bend is an art. I do it with what I do.

We can always go with my clip:crime ratio. The more clips I carry for my pistol in an area reflects the crime rate for that area. It's science.

 

[LouderVol]

You are aware crime rates account for population right? That is why it is per 1000 people in the study. The numbers speak for themselves. Anytime people point out how dangerous some rural areas are yall cry about the small population. So on the same hand if the crime rate is lower in a big city but way more crimes due to size, why don't you acknowledge the large number of crimes is only due to high population?

Maybe you should actually look objectively at things instead repeating incorrect conservative talking points.

and this is just "crime" in general. and even if a city has the same rate as Bum*****ville MS, the city would still be much more dangerous. if Bum*****ville's rate is 14 in 1000 with a population of 3000; a city with a 1 to 1000 rate with 100,000 people is still more dangerous. The city would have to have a proportionally smaller rate of crime to population to be "safer".

 

[carlos86]

Documents show Flynn apparently lied to US security clearance investigators about foreign payments.

 

[Velo Vol]

Documents show Flynn apparently lied to US security clearance investigators about foreign payments.

Very unfair of the Fake News Media to be covering this.

 

[carlos86]

Also Trump has assembled a legal team. Marc E. Kasowitz; Robert J. Guiffra Jr.; Reid H. Weingarten; and Theodore B. Olson.

"Kasowitz, who has known Trump for decades, is expected to take a leading role. A partner at Kasowitz, Benson, Torres & Friedman in New York, Kasowitz has represented Trump in numerous cases, including on his divorce records, real estate transactions and allegations of fraud at Trump University. Guiffra, Olson and Weingarten have already spoken with senior administration officials about the team, said a person familiar with the process.

Guiffra, a partner at Sullivan & Cromwell in New York, is currently the coordinating counsel for Volkswagen, which has admitted to cheating on emissions tests in the United States.

Olson, a former U.S. Solicitor General, rose to prominence in 2000 when he argued the Supreme Court election case that delivered electoral victory to George W. Bush. He later teamed up with his former Democratic adversary on the Bush v. Gore case, David Boies, to successfully overturn the 2008 California ballot measure outlawing same-sex marriage.

Weingarten, a high-powered attorney at Steptoe & Johnson in Washington known for his folksy style, is a somewhat unlikely choice because he has represented a series of Democratic clients, and is close friends with Eric H. Holder, who served as attorney general under former president Barack Obama. Holder and Weingarten met during their early years at the Department of Justice."

 

[ShowSomePride]

and this is just "crime" in general. and even if a city has the same rate as Bum*****ville MS, the city would still be much more dangerous. if Bum*****ville's rate is 14 in 1000 with a population of 3000; a city with a 1 to 1000 rate with 100,000 people is still more dangerous. The city would have to have a proportionally smaller rate of crime to population to be "safer".

What is your logic behind this? If a large city and small town have the same crime rate, what makes the large city more dangerous? The sheer amount of crime?