TrumPutinGate

[LouderVol]

Yep, that's why the court struck down his travel ban.

there's an interesting discussion item.

at what point does a law/EO/whatever become illegal if ruled unconstitutional? Is it right when the courts make their ruling, so that no previous actions are wrong; or does it carry to the start of said unconstitutional item. in the case of laws are the people who voted for it, president who signed it guilty of being unconstitutional? or only if they uphold it after the ruling?

 

[CABVOL]

Can anyone tell us where the original suggestion of collusion came from?

I'm willing to bet it can be traced to a political appointee of the Obama administration.

Seriously, can anyone pinpoint the genesis of the allegation?

Wasn't it suggested early on that it was Obama's right hand person whom has since moved in with the family (her name escapes me)? If I recall, the suggestion was that Flynn was going to nix the whole Iran/Obama stuff and that this was done to bring that action to a screeching halt?

It certainly appears Flynn is as dirty as the day is long, but this whole Russian 'incident' sure has put a halt to everything; which I believe is the intended end game (other than Trump being impeached).

 

[ShowSomePride]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-marijuana-providers/?utm_term=.d5d5fd917b87

This alone makes me strongly dislike Sessions.

 

[volbeast33]

Rumors floating Trump wants to fire Mueller, rumors floating Sessions offered his resignation but Trump didnt accept because of how it make people perceive the situation.


Whatever is happening, it looks very very bad for Trump.

Why would you believe any of that when the overwhelming majority of things put out there is 100% made up lies.

 

[hog88]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-marijuana-providers/?utm_term=.d5d5fd917b87

This alone makes me strongly dislike Sessions.

It's a distortion, read the full letter and you will see that he has good reason why he wants the provision removed.

 

[#VFL__]

It's a distortion, read the full letter and you will see that he has good reason why he wants the provision removed.

Is it because cannabis stole his high school sweetheart?

 

[#VFL__]

Why would you believe any of that when the overwhelming majority of things put out there is 100% made up lies.

Really? Outside of the piss tape, what exactly has been 100% made up lies?

 

[hog88]

Is it because cannabis stole his high school sweetheart?

Or it ties the DOJs hands in prosecuting federal crimes.

 

[AirVol]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...l-marijuana-providers/?utm_term=.d5d5fd917b87

This alone makes me strongly dislike Sessions.

The pharma companies are probably paying him, they hate legal marijuana.

Also, Obama and the Justice Dept tried to fight this too, not just Sessions.

 

[MT LeConte]

Hoping and praying for something even mildly illegal.

No, actually hoping and praying for something seriously illegal. We need someone fit to be president in office. I'll take Mike Pence any day over what we have. At least we're pretty sure he's sane and won't make some stupid knee jerk mistake. He probably won't coddle the Russians either.

 

[hog88]

No, actually hoping and praying for something seriously illegal. We need someone fit to be president in office. I'll take Mike Pence any day over what we have. At least we're pretty sure he's sane and won't make some stupid knee jerk mistake. He probably won't coddle the Russians either.

Like Obama?

 

[golfballs]

Yep, that's why the court struck down his travel ban.

Actually, you're right. They said the ban is constitutional, but because it's Trump they won't allow it.

 

[AirVol]

Like Obama?

Tell him I will be more flexible after the election.

 

[#VFL__]

Or it ties the DOJs hands in prosecuting federal crimes.

There should be no prosecution related to adults using a plant. End of story

 

[hog88]

There should be no prosecution related to adults using a plant. End of story

That's not the issue. It prevents and has prevented prosecution of growers/dealers who are legally growing in a state but ILLEGALLY sending product to states where it is ILLEGAL.

 

[#VFL__]

Actually, you're right. They said the ban is constitutional, but because it's Trump they won't allow it.

How many acts of terror have been committed by individuals from those countries since your dear leader was elected?

 

[hog88]

How many acts of terror have been committed by individuals from those countries since your dear leader was elected?

Here or abroad?

 

[#VFL__]

That's not the issue. It prevents and has prevented prosecution of growers/dealers who are legally growing in a state but ILLEGALLY sending product to states where it is ILLEGAL.

Good. I hope they send the sh@t to every county in this country. Give me JOBS not bought officials

 

[golfballs]

How many acts of terror have been committed by individuals from those countries since your dear leader was elected?

There's a long thread dedicated to this where you can read up on all of our thoughts. The question has nothing to do with lefties on the bench with Trump derangement.

 

[#VFL__]

Here or abroad?

Here

 

[hog88]

Good. I hope they send the sh@t to every county in this country.

Nice debating you.

 

[hog88]

Here

None that I know of. How many would it take for you to support the EO?

 

[golfballs]

Literally has absolutely nothing to do with the constitutionality of the order. The entire point is to be proactive in preventing attacks.

 

[volfanhill]

You aren't worried about his connections to Comey? I don't think he can fire him but I also don't believe for one second Mueller is independent.

He was heavily praised by both sides when selected. Newt was very pleased. I am with Hog. If Muller is fired then I would move from let's wait and see to get rid of his ass.

 

[Grand Vol]

He was heavily praised by both sides when selected. Newt was very pleased. I am with Hog. If Muller is fired then I would move from let's wait and see to get rid of his ass.

Newt decided to reverse course for some reason.