TrumPutinGate

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DC_Vol said:
When will we be able to see this evidence?
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Not sure. If you will recall, the source for some of the intelligence is so secret, specifically on Putin's personal role, that the CIA director sent it over to the WH by special courier, to be looked at only by Obama and several of his aides, and then returned to the agency.

That suggests to me that we have either some well planted listening devices or some very high up spies. We may not see that part of it for a very long time, I suppose.

But what will really be interesting is what Mueller turns up when he interviews Flynn, Manafort, and Carter Page. Whether they will turn on Trump, to save their own skins. I just have to think that none of them has a ton of loyalty to Trump, the way he treated them.
 
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golfballs said:
Instead of shaking Putin's hand, they wanted Trump to hand him a signed declaration of war.
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Like all the people that said it was evidence of collusion when we told Russia we were about to bomb an airfield in Syria so we could avoid taking them out and starting WWIII
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not sure. If you will recall, the source for some of the intelligence is so secret, specifically on Putin's personal role, that the CIA director sent it over to the WH by special courier, to be looked at only by Obama and several of his aides, and then returned to the agency.

That suggests to me that we have either some well planted listening devices or some very high up spies. We may not see that part of it for a very long time, I suppose.

But what will really be interesting is what Mueller turns up when he interviews Flynn, Manafort, and Carter Page. Whether they will turn on Trump, to save their own skins. I just have to think that none of them has a ton of loyalty to Trump, the way he treated them.
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Page has already been interviewed by Mueller and Co. Also it appears he (Page) never personally met Manafort. So if those 2 were part of the collude-a-palooza they had some secret go between.

But keep hoping lil buddy.
 
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MT LeConte said:
Typical. Trump meets with a foreign leader and comes out of it telling a different story from the person he met with. That's the problem with Trump being such a pathological liar. You just can't believe anything he says about anything.
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It was Tillerson who gave the accounts of the meeting. Just a small detail.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Not sure. If you will recall, the source for some of the intelligence is so secret, specifically on Putin's personal role, that the CIA director sent it over to the WH by special courier, to be looked at only by Obama and several of his aides, and then returned to the agency.

That suggests to me that we have either some well planted listening devices or some very high up spies. We may not see that part of it for a very long time, I suppose.

But what will really be interesting is what Mueller turns up when he interviews Flynn, Manafort, and Carter Page. Whether they will turn on Trump, to save their own skins. I just have to think that none of them has a ton of loyalty to Trump, the way he treated them.
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None of them will turn, why would they?

Hell, why would the answer any of Mullers questions?
 
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volinbham said:
Not sure what the point is here?
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Touched on here.

Even Glenn Greenwald And His Fans Should Fear the Trump-Putin Alliance

Pretty much only the Russians themselves, the conspiracy theorists at WorldNetDaily and the Intercept libertarians are actively objecting to the evidence against Putin.

Russian self-interest is obvious and conspiracy theorists will do what they always do. But the Intercept agenda is simple: Greenwald and friends have a very strong distrust of Western and particularly American governments, and reflexively attempt to refute any assertions that they believe might help advance an imperialistic or militaristic agenda.
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volinbham said:
So you are saying he's lying since you don't believe what Trump says.
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I don't believe Tillerson is putting any thing out that Trump doesn't approve.

I ask again? With Trump's record why should you believe him over anyone, even the Russians.
 
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Velo Vol said:
You're a big Greenwald fan?
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I listen to what he has to say. He's not a hack, which automatically puts him near the top of his profession relative to his peers.

I'm also no fan of NSA spying and concerned w preserving proper checks and balances
 
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MT LeConte said:
I don't believe Tillerson is putting any thing out that Trump doesn't approve.

I ask again? With Trump's record why should you believe him over anyone, even the Russians.
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Because I don't believe Tillerson would lie just because Trump told him to, the Russian statement is SOP for them, Trump wouldn't have bothered to press Putin on interference if he didn't believe Russia did interfere and accordingly he would have no reason to agree with Putin's denial of such.

In short, the context of the situation puts the scales firmly in favor of the US version of events.
 
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