TrumPutinGate

I don't believe Tillerson is putting any thing out that Trump doesn't approve.

I ask again? With Trump's record why should you believe him over anyone, even the Russians.

So, you are saying you believe the Russians over Trump?

The Russians have said they aren't responsible for the hacking or disinformation campaign against Hillary. Trump has said, or implied they are.

So, in your mind, the Russians had nothing to do with it and Trump is lying. Which means Hillary just sucked so bad she couldn't win.
 
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Just a day ago Trump said "we don't know" who was behind the hacking.

Is he saying something different today?

We don't have to rely on Tillerson or the Russians--Trump can announce what he believes any time he wants.
 
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Instead of shaking Putin's hand, they wanted Trump to hand him a signed declaration of war.

Yep.

Delaware Sen. Chris Coons, a Democratic member of the foreign relations committee, said on CNN that Trump had erred by being so accommodating to Putin.

"Rather than rushing to say what an honor it was for him to meet Putin ... President Trump could have made it clear at the outset that he thinks Russian meddling in our 2016 election was a grave matter of national security and he intends to take strong action," said Coons.
 
They did for awhile.

But then they started getting briefed behind closed doors.

Now? Despite his popularity with their base?

Crickets. There's a reason for that, and we shall all soon learn it.

lol that's bull****. The GOP did not back him. How many can you name who were in his corner and aren't now?
 
Just a day ago Trump said "we don't know" who was behind the hacking.

Is he saying something different today?

We don't have to rely on Tillerson or the Russians--Trump can announce what he believes any time he wants.

you leave out that he said he believes Russia was behind the hacking and interference attempts.
 
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Just a day ago Trump said "we don't know" who was behind the hacking.

Is he saying something different today?

We don't have to rely on Tillerson or the Russians--Trump can announce what he believes any time he wants.

Are you talking about when he was answering questions while the Poland president was present?

EDIT: Nvm...volinbham already called you out on the omitted portion of your statement. Is this like how you posted the edited video of Poland's president's wife 'snubbing' Trump when in fact, the full video shows her immediately shaking Trump's hand after shaking Melania's? Are you going to continue to post FAKE information?
 
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This has got to be one of the most hilarious things politically I've ever seen in my life. On one hand, you have the DNC screaming about not trusting Russia and how they swung the election for Trump and how "it's an act of war!"

Yet to turn around and automatically believe exactly what the RUSSIAN FOREIGN AMBASSADOR tells them allegedly took part in a meeting. That it's the gospel truth. Can't believe the US Secretary of State, no way. The Russians are obviously telling...the...truth? Wait, what?

So, which is it liberals? Are the Russians to be trusted? Not trusted? Maybe kinda trusted? Only believed when it gives you something anti-Trump to blather on about?

You idiots still don't know if you've been burned, shot, ****ed or snake bit. The shock of losing the election still hasn't worn off and you still can't even manage to come up with a coherent talking point.
 
And what really cracks me up is the fact the US and Russia managed to arrange a cease fire in Syria in less than two hours. That little fact is being overlooked.
 
Even today Trump couldn't admit that Russia--and Russia alone--hacked our election. He intentionally hedged and then lied about other countries "very likely" being involved. Lie. Just like his election illegal voting lie. Southern goofs keep on pretending that Trump is normal and that's there's nothing dubious about Trump's infatuation with Russia and the many meetings between Trump officials and Russians. He hired a //national security advisor// who was quite fond of the Russians--and got paid by a Russian organization--and tried to cover it all up. Trump's campaign manager, Manafort, was pretty thick with Russian contacts. Sessions lied to Congress when he said he hadn't met with Russians before the election. Kushner met with Russians immediately after the election. But this is all normal behavior for a president and his advisors, right? Get real. Trump wants to keep the flow of dirty Russian money--from cronies of Putin--to his real estate properties and deals. That is almost certainly what this is about. He knows Putin, with a word to his cronies, could stop the investments--and then Trump would be screwed because no legit banks want to deal with him anymore.

On another note, the NYTimes had a great tweet today showing how many times Trump has visited a Trump property since he got elected. At least once a week and sometimes twice. He's clearly determined to parley his presidency into more revenues /profits for himself and his companies. I THINK that is called conflict of interest and corruption--but perfectly OK with the Trump supporters, amirite? The real problem is CNN, right. Keep the moral blinders on, kids.

They didn't hack our election. If you choose to believe they hacked the DNC servers that's fine. If they'd hacked the servers and found nothing it would have been a non story. What made it a story was what the emails revealed, a corrupt organization that refers to their constituents in an unfavorable light and it shows collusion between the DNC and the major media. Why don't you and the other liberals attack the message instead of the messenger?
 
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So, you are saying you believe the Russians over Trump?

The Russians have said they aren't responsible for the hacking or disinformation campaign against Hillary. Trump has said, or implied they are.

So, in your mind, the Russians had nothing to do with it and Trump is lying. Which means Hillary just sucked so bad she couldn't win.


It's hard to know who's version is correct. Certainly, the Russians have a long history of lying about things. Then again, so does Trump and his administration.
 
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you leave out that he said he believes Russia was behind the hacking and interference attempts.

And then in the next breath he says nobody really knows for sure. It's standard Trump gibberish.

[twitter]https://twitter.com/NBCNews/status/882888001109360640[/twitter]
 
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They didn't back our election. If you choose to believe they hacked they hacked the DNC servers that's fine. If they'd hacked the servers and found nothing it would have been a non story. What made it a story was what the emails revealed, a corrupt organization that refers to their constituents in an unfavorable light and it shows collusion between the DNC and the major media. Why don't you and the other liberals attack the message instead of the messenger?

Please stop bringing up facts that goes against the liberal agenda. Thanks.
 
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They didn't back our election. If you choose to believe they hacked they hacked the DNC servers that's fine. If they'd hacked the servers and found nothing it would have been a non story. What made it a story was what the emails revealed, a corrupt organization that refers to their constituents in an unfavorable light and it shows collusion between the DNC and the major media. Why don't you and the other liberals attack the message instead of the messenger?


You guys keep setting up them straw man.

The test is not whether Trump did something criminal. It is not whether the Russians altered vote totals.

It is whether the Trump campaign, particularly with Trumps knowledge, in any way encouraged the Russians to meddle. It's also why they would do so. Last, it's whether Trump has acted to prevent the truth from emerging.
 
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You guys keep setting up them straw man.

The test is not whether Trump did something criminal. It is not whether the Russians altered vote totals.

It is whether the Trump campaign, particularly with Trumps knowledge, in any way encouraged the Russians to meddle. It's also why they would do so. Last, it's whether Trump has acted to prevent the truth from emerging.

They did so because Putin hates Clinton. Particularly after she questioned the legitimacy of Putin's own election.
 
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They didn't back our election. If you choose to believe they hacked they hacked the DNC servers that's fine. If they'd hacked the servers and found nothing it would have been a non story. What made it a story was what the emails revealed, a corrupt organization that refers to their constituents in an unfavorable light and it shows collusion between the DNC and the major media. Why don't you and the other liberals attack the message instead of the messenger?

That is ridiculous. Russian agents hacking any American institution is not a non-story. And once again, this is not a partisan issue. The US intelligence community has concluded that Russian agents were responsible for hacking DNC servers and disseminating fake news stories in effort to meddle in the 2016 Presidential election and there are currently no Republican members of Congress disputing that finding... and although Russian agents may not have been successful in altering votes there is evidence that attempts to that end were made.
 
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You guys keep setting up them straw man.

The test is not whether Trump did something criminal. It is not whether the Russians altered vote totals.

It is whether the Trump campaign, particularly with Trumps knowledge, in any way encouraged the Russians to meddle. It's also why they would do so. Last, it's whether Trump has acted to prevent the truth from emerging.

You talk about how Trump supporters blindly follow Trump regardless of what he does or says when you guys are so brainwashed by your own party. You do exactly what you accuse Trump supporters of doing. Those emails revealed how the DNC views it supporters of being mindless robots that will believe whatever slop they feed you and do whatever they tell you to do. It's pathetic. I can't believe (well actually I can) that you completely ignore it instead of focusing on the real problem. If the leaked emails had been innocuous, they wouldn't have had an affect on the election n the first place.
 
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That is ridiculous. Russian agents hacking any American institution is not a non-story. And once again, this is not a partisan issue. The US intelligence community has concluded that Russian agents were responsible for hacking DNC servers and disseminating fake news stories in effort to meddle in the 2016 Presidential election and there are currently no Republican members of Congress disputing that finding... and although Russian agents may not have been successful in altering votes there is evidence that attempts to that end were made.

So if there was nothing embarrassing contained in the emails then what affect would they have had?
 
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