TrumPutinGate

[golfballs]

There isn't even a crime, and they've already stated their desire to impeach. They're now just searching for one in order to justify their means.

They are the real traitors - attempting to undermine our democratic institutions and overthrow an elected President.

 

[theFallGuy]

She at least is fully transparent on the impetus behind this. She wants to use impeachment as a way to undo the will of the American people and serve out her own political agenda. They're treating it as if it's a check and balance between voters and the DC establishment.

The message I think is clear, if you aren't part of the group then it is fine to use whatever means necessary to throw you out. Unfortunately, you have people just following along blindly because they don't like Trump.

 

[Grand Vol]

Oh look Maxine Waters wants to go after Pence too. I wonder what kind of crime she can drum up.

"On Friday’s broadcast of ABC’s “The View,” Representative Maxine Waters (D-CA) stated that after President Donald Trump is impeached, Vice President Mike Pence won’t be a better president than Trump and should be impeached as well.

One of the show’s hosts, Joy Behar asked, “Do you think Pence will be better than Trump if he were impeached? ”

Waters answered, “No. And when we finish with Trump, we have to go and get Putin. He’s next.”

Behar then asked Waters if she meant Putin or Pence, and Waters clarified that she meant Pence.

Wonder if she realizes she's never going to get all the way to Hillary in her impeachment proceedings...

 

[Orangedogsrule]

That phrase is poorly defined.

However, if Mueller discovers that Trump has been engaged in large scale and systemic tax evasion, I am quite confident that the Republicans in Congress will not only impeach Trump, but will personally hire the moving vans to show up the next day to get his arse out of there, before he embarrasses them even more.

Your "abuse of charity" scenario perfectly fits HRC & the Clinton Fund. Absolutely to a tee.

Looks like you'll have to wonder what Tim Kaine as POTUS would be.

 

[zeppelin128]

Most seem to think they are widening the scope of the investigation because they can't find anything.

I think it is the opposite; they have something on him, and are building a stronger case. If this goes down the impeachment path, there can be no doubt in the evidence given our polarization politically.

Of course his supporters will not care what he did; they are already saying money laundering isn't a big deal. They will stomp their feet, throw a tantrum and scream "not fair!"

 

[golfballs]

Most seem to think they are widening the scope of the investigation because they can't find anything.

I think it is the opposite; they have something on him, and are building a stronger case. If this goes down the impeachment path, there can be no doubt in the evidence given our polarization politically.

Of course his supporters will not care what he did; they are already saying money laundering isn't a big deal. They will stomp their feet, throw a tantrum and scream "not fair!"

You clearly haven't paid attention to previous special councils.

 

[lawgator1]

They'll try to justify any reason to impeach him. Doesn't make it right.

You're dismissing legitimate grounds for investigation and impeachment by just saying they are going to come up with something. We'll see what they find. Maybe nothing or minor. But given the way Trump has tried to duck this, I think you have to be prepared for the very real possibility it's bad.

 

[FLVOL_79]

There's are constitutional standards for impeachment. Butthurt and hysteria are not mentioned.

It will be amended to include those the next time libtards take over.

 

[hog88]

What is unconditional about it?

Congress cannot restrict the Presidents executive authority within the executive branch.

 

[MT LeConte]

There isn't even a crime, and they've already stated their desire to impeach. They're now just searching for one in order to justify their means.

They are the real traitors - attempting to undermine our democratic institutions and overthrow an elected President.

If he resigned or gets booted it will be of his own doing. No traitors, no conspiracies just his own actions. Whether it will happen or not I don't know but the odds seem to be going up.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

There isn't even a crime, and they've already stated their desire to impeach. They're now just searching for one in order to justify their means.

They are the real traitors - attempting to undermine our democratic institutions and overthrow an elected President.

The Democrat Party Beltway leaders have a special seat in an inner circle of Hades.

 

[luthervol]

There isn't even a crime, and they've already stated their desire to impeach. They're now just searching for one in order to justify their means.

They are the real traitors - attempting to undermine our democratic institutions and overthrow an elected President.

Ken Starr, 4 years, Monica Lewinsky, special council run amok, searching for anything that can be twisted into an impeachable offense, real traitors attempting to undermine our democratic institutions and overthrow a LEGITIMATELY elected president? That's all ringing a bell.

Mueller has 100 times more credibility than Starr. Repubs. were batsh1t crazy during that period.

The biggest difference between the two is that there is actually meat on the bone this time. Plus this one has only been going for a couple of months and not years.

Starr, to the glee of the right, set the latitude of a special investigation very high and the impeachable offense bar extremely low. Not to worry though, Mueller and the left would never go to the ridiculous extremes of Starr and the right.

 

[FLVOL_79]

Ken Starr, 4 years, Monica Lewinsky, special council run amok, searching for anything that can be twisted into an impeachable offense, real traitors attempting to undermine our democratic institutions and overthrow a LEGITIMATELY elected president? That's all ringing a bell.

Mueller has 100 times more credibility than Starr. Repubs. were batsh1t crazy during that period.

The biggest difference between the two is that there is actually meat on the bone this time. Plus this one has only been going for a couple of months and not years.

Starr, to the glee of the right, set the latitude of a special investigation very high and the impeachable offense bar extremely low. Not to worry though, Mueller and the left would never go to the ridiculous extremes of Starr and the right.

You do realize Clinton got impeached right?.........

 

[luthervol]

You do realize Clinton got impeached right?.........

Thus the low setting of the bar. By the way, what exactly was Clinton's impeachable offense?

 

[FLVOL_79]

Thus the low setting of the bar. By the way, what exactly was Clinton's impeachable offense?

Perjury and obstruction of justice.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Hillary deserves the same level of scrutiny that Trump is under plus some. There existed MUCH more actual evidence that suggested foreign collusion than Trump.

If you're really serious about the "integrity" of our elections, then you couldn't possibly be opposed to it.

Dems care nothing about integrity..... who cares if Bernie got screwed..... or that classified data was handled carelessly?

 

[luthervol]

Perjury and obstruction of justice.

You may wish to remember those two, and the level at which the bar was set.

 

[FLVOL_79]

You may wish to remember those two, and the level at which the bar was set.

The bar was set low..a US President banging fat chicks.

 

[lawgator1]

Ken Starr, 4 years, Monica Lewinsky, special council run amok, searching for anything that can be twisted into an impeachable offense, real traitors attempting to undermine our democratic institutions and overthrow a LEGITIMATELY elected president? That's all ringing a bell.

Mueller has 100 times more credibility than Starr. Repubs. were batsh1t crazy during that period.

The biggest difference between the two is that there is actually meat on the bone this time. Plus this one has only been going for a couple of months and not years.

Starr, to the glee of the right, set the latitude of a special investigation very high and the impeachable offense bar extremely low. Not to worry though, Mueller and the left would never go to the ridiculous extremes of Starr and the right.

Starr was a Republican-appointed and Republican-backed guy from a Republican administration investigating a Democrat.

This is a Republican, appointed by and backed by Republicans, investigating a Republican.

Ask yourself why. Just not fans of Trump? Or do they know...

 

[golfballs]

Starr was a Republican-appointed and Republican-backed guy from a Republican administration investigating a Democrat.

This is a Republican, appointed by and backed by Republicans, investigating a Republican.

Ask yourself why. Just not fans of Trump? Or do they know...

It's certainly not a secret that Washington Republicans hate Trump and they have from the beginning

 

[luthervol]

The bar was set low..a US President banging fat chicks.

I thought the special council was investigating Whitewater. What in the world did Lewinski have to do with Whitewater?

 

[zeppelin128]

It's certainly not a secret that Washington Republicans hate Trump and they have from the beginning

If he broke the law it doesn't matter what they think of him. This notion that the investigation is a "witch hunt" should not be an excuse to ignore high crimes. Maybe he should have thought of that before engaging in acts that aroused suspicion. I have no sympathy for him at all. Even if found innocent, which I highly doubt, it at the very least shows poor judgement.

 

[FLVOL_79]

I thought the special council was investigating Whitewater. What in the world did Lewinski have to do with Whitewater?

Paula Jones homeslice...

 

[lawgator1]

It's certainly not a secret that Washington Republicans hate Trump and they have from the beginning

Oh sure, but come on. Did you see the toothless hillbillies surrounding Trump in West Va.?

Impeaching Trump for anything less than very serious will alienate them forever. The establishment Republicans aren't going down this road without an expectation that at the end they can get rid of the Trump albatross but keep the Trump voters on board in '18 and beyond.

 

[golfballs]

If he broke the law it doesn't matter what they think of him. This notion that the investigation is a "witch hunt" should not be an excuse to ignore high crimes. Maybe he should have thought of that before engaging in acts that aroused suspicion. I have no sympathy for him at all. Even if found innocent, which I highly doubt, it at the very least shows poor judgement.

And what "high crimes" are they, zeppelin?