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NorthDallas40 said:
Wrong again B.B.! Womp womp

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...i-carter-page-surveillance-warrant/index.html
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Okay.... I was wrong about the first FISA warrant but Page's activities were under surveillance prior to joining the Trump campain. That's for sure... and this still doesn't reveal any bias from Rosenstein. Page was suspected of being a Russian asset by our Intelligence Community. And once again, maybe Trump should have hired a better class of people to help with his campaign?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Okay.... I was wrong about the first FISA warrant but Page's activities were under surveillance prior to joining the Trump campain. That's for sure... and this still doesn't reveal any bias from Rosenstein. Page was suspected of being a Russian asset by our Intelligence Community. And once again, maybe Trump should have hired a better class of people to help with his campaign?
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Why is Page still walking the streets with no follow on interest by the DOJ two years after his initial FISA warrant? Because it was never about Page it was about to hops to Trump and his circle. After he was president elect. And Rosenstein’s signature is on the warrants.

He’s not impartial in this whole fiasco and never was.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
Why is Page still walking the streets with no follow on interest by the DOJ two years after his initial FISA warrant? Because it was never about Page it was about to hops to Trump and his circle. After he was president elect. And Rosenstein’s signature is on the warrants.

He’s not impartial in this whole fiasco and never was.
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I disagree. The IC suspected Page of being a Russian asset before the Trump campaign even began. How were they to know that he would have ever been a member of a Trump campaign for President, or that Trump was even going to run?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Most people are capable of acknowledging their mistakes ... and yes, we all make them. Trump, however, continues to blame Sessions for recusing himself from the investigation into the Trump 2016 Presidential campaign, which is what most lawyers in his position would have done. Trump should be blaming himself for nominating Sessions in the first place. This blame game and lack of personal accountability by Trump for his own mistake in judgement has been going on for well over a year now. It has gotten so old. Fire Sessions if you want, but for God's sake, shut up about it.
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Hilarious.

Mueller should have recused himself.

Rosenstein should have recused himself.

You guys ignore all inconvenient truths.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I disagree. The IC suspected Page of being a Russian asset before the Trump campaign even began. How were they to know that he would have ever been a member of a Trump campaign for President, or that Trump was even going to run?
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Hmm, you think they might have given him a heads up when Page started working for the campaign.
 
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hog88 said:
Hmm, you think they might have given him a heads up when Page started working for the campaign.
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Would it have made any difference if they had? Barack Obama directly warned Trump about hiring Michael Flynn as National Security Adviser after the election in November of 2016 ... Trump hired him anyway.
 
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What Trump has simply never understood is that the Attorney General does not work for the President.

He made the same mistake as to the Office of the FBI Director, thinking that the Director's job is to do his bidding.

When Trump was elected, many of us predicted he would go crazy at the fact that as POTUS he cannot just pick up the phone and tell people what to do. He cannot just fire anyone he wants because he's unhappy with them. This is because the people with actual authority do not work for him.

He can fire the WH chef. He can fire the press secretary. He can fire a speech writer. He can tell them what to do. Their loyalty is to him. Not so for the Atty Gen or FBI director. He's already made the mistake of firing the FBI Director because he would not do as he was told. If he fires Sessions for the same reason it will be, and should be, the abrupt end of his presidency.
 
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lawgator1 said:
What Trump has simply never understood is that the Attorney General does not work for the President.

He made the same mistake as to the Office of the FBI Director, thinking that the Director's job is to do his bidding.

When Trump was elected, many of us predicted he would go crazy at the fact that as POTUS he cannot just pick up the phone and tell people what to do. He cannot just fire anyone he wants because he's unhappy with them. This is because the people with actual authority do not work for him.

He can fire the WH chef. He can fire the press secretary. He can fire a speech writer. He can tell them what to do. Their loyalty is to him. Not so for the Atty Gen or FBI director. He's already made the mistake of firing the FBI Director because he would not do as he was told. If he fires Sessions for the same reason it will be, and should be, the abrupt end of his presidency.
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Anybody working in the executive branch he can, they work at the pleasure of the POTUS.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I disagree. The IC suspected Page of being a Russian asset before the Trump campaign even began. How were they to know that he would have ever been a member of a Trump campaign for President, or that Trump was even going to run?
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😂😂😂

A) please show me where the President Elect was briefed about this potentially nefarious character that was in his campaign. Answer: he wasn’t.

B) why did the FISA warrants get renewed 2 or 3 times AFTER he was President Elect and STILL no briefing to Trump on Page. Answer: Because they didn’t want Trump to know they were spying on him via the Page FISA warrant!!
 
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lawgator1 said:
What Trump has simply never understood is that the Attorney General does not work for the President.

He made the same mistake as to the Office of the FBI Director, thinking that the Director's job is to do his bidding.

When Trump was elected, many of us predicted he would go crazy at the fact that as POTUS he cannot just pick up the phone and tell people what to do. He cannot just fire anyone he wants because he's unhappy with them. This is because the people with actual authority do not work for him.

He can fire the WH chef. He can fire the press secretary. He can fire a speech writer. He can tell them what to do. Their loyalty is to him. Not so for the Atty Gen or FBI director. He's already made the mistake of firing the FBI Director because he would not do as he was told. If he fires Sessions for the same reason it will be, and should be, the abrupt end of his presidency.
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All employees of the Executive Branch including all employees of the DOJ and FBI work for the president. At the top tiers of AG and FBI Director Trump can fire them on a whim. I’d bet the rank and file employees have more security and recourse for employment protection than the AG and DoFBI. The corner office comes with big risk as well as big reward.
 
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A lot of bitching and moaning in this thread from the Trumpah Loompas. Have a Snickers.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
😂😂😂

A) please show me where the President Elect was briefed about this potentially nefarious character that was in his campaign. Answer: he wasn’t.

B) why did the FISA warrants get renewed 2 or 3 times AFTER he was President Elect and STILL no briefing to Trump on Page. Answer: Because they didn’t want Trump to know they were spying on him via the Page FISA warrant!!
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Because they didn't want Page tipped off that he was being spied on.
 
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STEELE DOSSIER PUSHERS LAY LOW AFTER LANNY DAVIS BOMBSHELL

For nearly 20 months, the allegations made in the infamous Steele dossier have hung like a cloud over the Trump administration and several of his former advisers.

The salacious 35-page document has become Exhibit A in President Donald Trump critics’ conspiracy theory that the campaign colluded with the Russian government to influence the 2016 election. Numerous news outlets, pundits and lawmakers have also pushed the theory.

But the dossier arguably suffered its heaviest blow on Wednesday after Clinton-connected lawyer Lanny Davis emphatically denied one of the document’s most intriguing allegations.

Davis said the dossier’s claims that his client, former Trump lawyer Michael Cohen, traveled to Prague in August 2016 as part of a conspiracy with the Kremlin are “100 percent” false. (RELATED: Lanny Davis: Michael Cohen Never Went To Prague, As Dossier Alleges)


Davis’ comments received little attention from the both the mainstream press and the entities that have pushed the dossier.
“We have no comment on Mr. Davis’s statements,” said Matt Mittenhal, a spokesman for BuzzFeed News, which published the dossier on Jan. 10, 2017.

Fusion GPS, the opposition research firm that commissioned the dossier on behalf of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s campaign and the Democratic National Committee, has also not weighed in. Joshua Levy, a lawyer for the firm, did not respond to a request for a response to Davis’ comments.

The DNC did not respond to a request for comment, nor did Marc Elias, the attorney who hired Fusion GPS on behalf of the Clinton campaign and DNC.

McClatchy News, which in April reported that special counsel Robert Mueller has evidence that Cohen did travel to Prague, says that it is sticking by its report. The article, written by reporters Greg Gordon and Peter Stone, breathed new life into the dossier’s claims about Cohen, but it has never been corroborated.

“We stand by our reporting,” said Jeanne Segal, a spokeswoman for McClatchy.

Steele Dossier Pushers Lay Low After Lanny Davis Bombshell
 
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hog88 said:
Anybody working in the executive branch he can, they work at the pleasure of the POTUS.
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NorthDallas40 said:
All employees of the Executive Branch including all employees of the DOJ and FBI work for the president. At the top tiers of AG and FBI Director Trump can fire them on a whim. I’d bet the rank and file employees have more security and recourse for employment protection than the AG and DoFBI. The corner office comes with big risk as well as big reward.
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He can fire them, yes. But they do not work for him, they do not work in his interests.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I disagree. The IC suspected Page of being a Russian asset before the Trump campaign even began. How were they to know that he would have ever been a member of a Trump campaign for President, or that Trump was even going to run?
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If true, it's very curious why the IC didn't warn the Trump campaign that Page was a suspected spy.

They warned Dianne Feinstein about her driver / Chinese spy in 2014.

Why the double standard?
 
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