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#20,804
ajvol01 said:
The dossier is a work of fiction.

Sickening to know they used it as justification to spy on American citizens.
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I honestly don’t see how people weren’t enraged by the patriot act, strangely named considering it puts freedom at the discretion of some gungho creatin behind a desk who’s got something to prove or better yet people who claim to be politically neutral digging around in people’s lives unabated. The abuse seems rampant.
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
I honestly don’t see how people weren’t enraged by the patriot act, strangely named considering it puts freedom at the discretion of some gungho creatin behind a desk who’s got something to prove or better yet people who claim to be politically neutral digging around in people’s lives unabated. The abuse seems rampant.
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Because time has passed since 9/11/01. It's way too easy to forget the fear and paranoia that existed right after that event that allowed the Patriot Act to pass so easily through Congress. No one has the cajones to repeal it for fear that another terrorist attack may occur because we got rid of it.

What did Ben Franklin say?

"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
 
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NurseGoodVol said:
Salacious and unverified. No one has tried to verify anything in the dossier... pathetic stab at creating a narrative that lead down the mother of all garden paths.
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This is utterly ridiculous. The main "narrative" as you put it, has been independently corroborated. U.S. Intelligence Agencies and the special counsel's investigation into Russian election interference did eventually find that Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote the candidacy of Donald Trump for President and hurt his opponent, Hillary Clinton. While some of the salacious details of the dossier remain unverified, those details were not at all the focus of the Steele dossier.
 
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ajvol01 said:
The dossier is a work of fiction.

Sickening to know they used it as justification to spy on American citizens.
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Ignorant... see my post #20,808. I don't think any of you have even read the damn Steele dossier. The focus of it (Russia's meddling into the 2016 campaign to assist Donald Trump) has been thoroughly corroborated. You are in denial if you think otherwise, at this point.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Ignorant... see my post #20,808. I don't think any of you have even read the damn Steele dossier. The focus of it (Russia's meddling into the 2016 campaign to assist Donald Trump) has been thoroughly corroborated. You are in denial if you think otherwise, at this point.
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You sure?

Michael Cohen Adviser Deals Major Blow To The Steele Dossier

Michael Cohen Adviser Deals Major Blow To The Steele Dossier
7:01 AM 12/17/2018 | Politics
  • Michael Cohen did not visit Prague during the 2016 campaign, as the Steele dossier alleges, according to the former Trump lawyer’s adviser.
  • Lanny Davis vehemently denied the dossier’s allegations that Cohen visited Prague to arrange payments to Russian hackers.
  • The allegation is a core component of Democrats’ collusion case against the Trump campaign.
A close adviser to Michael Cohen on Sunday emphatically denied the Steele dossier’s allegations that the former Trump adviser visited Prague during the 2016 campaign to arrange payments to Russian hackers.

Lanny Davis, a lawyer-turned-adviser for Cohen, did not skip a beat when asked by MSNBC’s Kasie Hunt about the dossier’s Prague allegation.

“Did that trip ever happen?” Hunt asked Davis, a Democratic attorney who is close to the Clintons.

“No. No. Everybody, America, we all love Kasie’s show. No, no Prague, ever, never,” an emphatic Davis replied.

Davis’ comments deal a heavy blow to the dossier, which is considered Exhibit A in Democrats’ case for Trump-Russia collusion.

Written by former British spy Christopher Steele, the dossier alleges a vast conspiracy between the Trump team and Kremlin insiders to hack and disseminate Democrats’ emails to influence the outcome of the election. The claims about Cohen are perhaps the most specific of any made about alleged collusion in the 35-page report.






Cohen has met with prosecutors from special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation for 70 hours since August. Mueller has revealed in court filings that Cohen has provided information about Russia-related matters, as well as the Trump Organization’s efforts to negotiate real estate deals in Moscow.

Cohen was sentenced to three years in prison on Dec. 12, after pleading guilty to charges of tax evasion, bank fraud and making illegal campaign contributions through a $130,000 payment he made to Stormy Daniels, the porn star who claims she had an affair with Trump in 2006. He also pleaded guilty in the Mueller probe on Nov. 29 to lying to Congress. (RELATED: Michael Cohen Sentenced To Three Years In Prison)

As part of the deal, Cohen admitted he lied to Congress in 2017 about the extent of his attempts to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Neither of Cohen’s two plea deals made mention of the dossier’s allegations regarding collusion.

Both Cohen and Davis have cast doubt on the dossier in the past, but not since the former Trump fixer ramped up his cooperation with Mueller and company.

Davis disputed the dossier’s assertions on Aug. 22, a day after Cohen pleaded guilty in the New York case.

He had stayed silent on the dossier question as Cohen began meeting more frequently with Mueller’s team, but addressed his reasons for doing so in his interview on Sunday.

Davis said that Cohen “actually instructed me when I was serving as his lawyer, just don’t answer it anymore, because it’s one of these silly things that constantly gets repeated.”

“So the answer is, no, he’s never been to Prague,” continued Davis, adding that Cohen has also never visited any suburbs of Prague.

The dossier’s claims about Cohen have been a topic of intense debate in the nearly two years since the document was published.

Democrats have defended Steele and the dossier by claiming that none of his allegations have been disproved. Republicans have responded by asserting that the dossier’s claims about a conspiracy between the Trump campaign and Russia have not been verified. GOP lawmakers have also gone after the FBI for relying heavily on the dossier to obtain four Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants against former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page.

Mueller’s team and the FBI have not commented on the dossier’s claims about Cohen. But Washington Post reporter Greg Miller recently claimed that FBI and CIA officials told the newspaper that they do not believe that Cohen’s trip occurred.

“We’ve talked to sources at the FBI and the CIA and elsewhere — they don’t believe that ever happened,” Miller, a Pulitzer Prize winning national security reporter, said at an event in October that aired Saturday on C-SPAN.

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BowlBrother85 said:
This is utterly ridiculous. The main "narrative" as you put it, has been independently corroborated. U.S. Intelligence Agencies and the special counsel's investigation into Russian election interference did eventually find that Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote the candidacy of Donald Trump for President and hurt his opponent, Hillary Clinton. While some of the salacious details of the dossier remain unverified, those details were not at all the focus of the Steele dossier.
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It's unfortunate that the Woods Procedures require the content of the dossier to be verified before the FISA warrant application to spy on American citizens was submitted.

Nunes memo raises question: Did FBI violate Woods Procedures?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yes, I'm sure... that Cohen may not have visited Prague, is not a "major blow" to the Steele dossier. Russia's interference in the 2016 Presidential election with the aim of assisting Donald Trump's campaign remains corroborated.
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Who in the Trump orbit has been proven to have been involved in the Russian election interference?
 
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#20,823
BowlBrother85 said:
This is utterly ridiculous. The main "narrative" as you put it, has been independently corroborated. U.S. Intelligence Agencies and the special counsel's investigation into Russian election interference did eventually find that Kremlin-linked operatives ran an elaborate operation to promote the candidacy of Donald Trump for President and hurt his opponent, Hillary Clinton. While some of the salacious details of the dossier remain unverified, those details were not at all the focus of the Steele dossier.
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You got him guys. Look at these memes which let the bad orange man steal the election from Hillary 😂
How Instagram Became the Russian IRA's Go-To Social Network
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