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carlos86 said:
When Snowden mans up and returns from his FSB hiding hole in Moscow I may just believe the words that come out of his mouth.
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I have mixed feelings about Snowden. There is argument to consider him both a patriot and traitor. He should return and face trial though. If found guilty he can then seek a pardon which I believe he would eventually get.
 
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Cambridge Analytica, another name to remember. Connected to Bannon, and likely connected to Russian Intelligence Services as well.
 
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The American People v. Mr. Trump, Part V, Scene III

American People: "Mr. Trump, did you conspire with Putin to spy on us, and use our personal data to feed us disinformation, through our social media sites like Facebook, that the Kremlin knew to which we'd likely be vulnerable?"

Mr. Trump: "We've been winning tremendously..., and I..."

American People: "Did you also conspire with Putin to launder Kremlin money into your "grass roots" funding campaign, as early as the Republican primaries, using hacked voter registries and data?"

Mr. Trump: "I, uh, I, look over there! It's Obama!"

(American People look in the direction Mr. Trump points. They see nothing. Then turn back to face Mr. Trump, who has now promptly exited the stage.)

American People (fists raised): "Donnnyyyyy!"
 
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Carl Pickens said:
I think you little scamps have watched too much television over the years and believe everything is a conspiracy
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I can't even recall another conspiracy theory I believe in, other than that there had to be more people involved in the Kennedy assassination (the particulars of that, however, I have never really speculated about).

But we know for a fact that people do conspire together from time to time to achieve higher aims.

I've seen too much from people with a proven track record regarding this particular case, however. This, in conjunction with all the incredible coincidences in the case, the fact the Trump cohort only makes themselves look guiltier with each and everyday, and the fact that there are now around nine dead Russians all connected in some shape or form either to the election interference or to Trump, all of this is why I believe it, whether or not it makes me look "nutty."

At this point, I think the only true "nuts" involved are the ones who think nothing at all appears odd here, regardless of whether or not a crime was actually committed.
 
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Now, about those tax returns:

https://jesterscourt.cc/2017/03/14/trumps-leaked-2005-tax-form-1040-need-know/

Interesting perspective. I'm on record claiming that this was all just a Trump hoax, that he had them leaked (reason why it was "clean" and why only two pages included, not to mention the "Client Copy"), all in an effort to take down Maddow who, if you will recall, was the only journalist doing heavy-hitting on the Trump-Russia connection at the time. What's more, I believe Maddow knew this, but was willing to take the temporary hit to her credibility in order to gain more exposure for her research on Trump-Russia.

Contrary to popular opinion on this board, win for Maddow. After a temporary setback, she is now gaining more audience-share and ratings than she ever has (still not saying much), and the Trump-Russia story has only blown up, admittedly mostly because of Comey's public statement.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/rachel-maddow-trump-tax-return-show-ratings.html

The only way this was a win for Team Traitor was that his sycophantic followers actually believe these two pages of one year's tax returns are indicative of his entire tax history, even though he refuses to release the rest.

NOTE: the author of this particular piece is The Jester, a notable, self-proclaimed "American patriot" hacker, known for attacks on Wikileaks and on the Russian Foreign Ministry, and who I am led to believe is a former Army intelligence officer. And by "officer," I mean "Second Lieutenant" or above. Always feels great to know we can count on another good guy like him on our side in running this traitor out on a rail.
 
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volprof said:
Now, about those tax returns:

https://jesterscourt.cc/2017/03/14/trumps-leaked-2005-tax-form-1040-need-know/

Interesting perspective. I'm on record claiming that this was all just a Trump hoax, that he had them leaked (reason why it was "clean" and why only two pages included, not to mention the "Client Copy"), all in an effort to take down Maddow who, if you will recall, was the only journalist doing heavy-hitting on the Trump-Russia connection at the time. What's more, I believe Maddow knew this, but was willing to take the temporary hit to her credibility in order to gain more exposure for her research on Trump-Russia.

Contrary to popular opinion on this board, win for Maddow. After a temporary setback, she is now gaining more audience-share and ratings than she ever has (still not saying much), and the Trump-Russia story has only blown up, admittedly mostly because of Comey's public statement.

http://www.vulture.com/2017/03/rachel-maddow-trump-tax-return-show-ratings.html

The only way this was a win for Team Traitor was that his sycophantic followers actually believe these two pages of one year's tax returns are indicative of his entire tax history, even though he refuses to release the rest.

NOTE: the author of this particular piece is The Jester, a notable, self-proclaimed "American patriot" hacker, known for attacks on Wikileaks and who I am led to believe is a former Army intelligence officer. And by "officer," I mean "Second Lieutenant" or above. Always feels great to know we can count on another good guy like him on our side in running this traitor out on a rail.
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is Maddow one of your well trusted sources? Just curious.
 
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DC_Vol said:
is Maddow one of your well trusted sources? Just curious.
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No, although she is doing some darn fine work on this, while the rest of the MSM had been picking their collective noses.

You did, however, just read a link from just one of them. Emphasis on "just one."
 
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volprof said:
I can't even recall another conspiracy theory I believe in, other than that there had to be more people involved in the Kennedy assassination (the particulars of that, however, I have never really speculated about).
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It's funny that you followed this post with what amounted to a Trump conspiracy to bait Maddow into looking foolish.
 
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volprof said:
No, although she is doing some darn fine work on this, while the rest of the MSM had been picking their collective noses.

You did, however, just read a link from just one of them. Emphasis on "just one."
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I haven't read it yet. Perhaps I will this evening.
 
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DC_Vol said:
It's funny that you followed this post with what amounted to a Trump conspiracy to bait Maddow into looking foolish.
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Well, make that three conspiracy theories then, although I lump the Maddow thing into the broader Trump-Russia one.

With Trump, everything is a conspiracy. That's how he's made his money his whole life and the only reason he's successful. He is more money launderer than he is businessman. We've known this for a long time; the media, however, completely wet the bed when it came to this, partially because they're like cats chasing laser lights (i.e., his tweets) and partially because his Russian mob pals will make threats if you get too close.

He's not a smart guy, which is why he will ultimately get caught - that and now he finally chose the wrong victim in his blind greed: the feds and, indeed, the entire American government - but he is a crafty guy, just like any mobster.

Four decades of robbery and theft (and now treason), however, are now finally coming to an end.
 
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Velo Vol said:
The CIA doesn't have to take a neutral stance; it's an American institution advancing American interests.

Crazy, I know
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My wife, who I have completely on board all of this, said to me the other day that "You do know though that we do interfere in other country's elections too, right?" to which I simply responded, "So?"

When it comes to us, I always take what I call the "Jed Eckhert" approach: why is it cool for us and not for others? "Because we live here!"
 
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Velo Vol said:
Link?
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You can practically dig up a number of articles concerning his casinos, particularly the Taj Mahal. Also, Russian OC has ran illegal gambling rings out of Trump Tower for years.

Here, just look at this guy's page, if you don't follow him on Twitter already:

https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

(Not one of my "trusted sources," but I good follow and a guy who has definitely done his research.)

Also, concerning Trump, money laundering, and ROC, read this thread by Schindler:

https://twitter.com/i/moments/818487233439207424?lang=en

(As you know, that is a "trusted source." He's always anywhere from a month to an entire year or two ahead of the mainstream media.)
 
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volprof said:
You can practically dig up a number of articles concerning his casinos, particularly the Taj Mahal.
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My question is on the scale of the dirty money.

Trump is connected with considerable legitimate businesses, so your claim is startling.
 
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Velo Vol said:
My question is on the scale of the dirty money.

Trump is connected with considerable legitimate businesses, so your claim is startling.
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Deutsche Bank, as well as the Rybolovlev real estate deal, are other good starts.

Trump also has accounts in Cyprus, where Manafort is currently being investigated by certain American intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Cyprus is the money launderer's money launderer.

This is all just a very small sampling of a career of crime. Crime cum treason.

Also, it should be noted that real estate is one of (if not THE) main sources of money laundering. You can practically launder any amount of money and get away with it in real estate. Just like the Rybolovlev deal, who can necessarily prove what the extra 45 million was for? It's a property; no law enforcement can answer for it even if they come looking in the first place.

"So a guy paid 45 million extra for a property he then tore down! Well, maybe he's just a nut! His prerogative to be a nut."

That sort of thing.
 
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volprof said:
Deutsche Bank, as well as the Rybolovlev real estate deal, are other good starts.

Trump also has accounts in Cyprus, where Manafort is currently being investigated by certain American intelligence and law enforcement agencies. Cyprus is the money launderer's money launderer.

This is all just a very small sampling of a career of crime. Crime cum treason.

Also, it should be noted that real estate is one of (if not THE) main sources of money laundering. You can practically launder any amount of money and get away with it in real estate. Just like the Rybolovlev deal, who can necessarily prove what the extra 45 million was for? It's a property; no law enforcement can answer for it even if they come looking in the first place.

"So a guy paid 45 million extra for a property he then tore down! Well, maybe he's just a nut! His prerogative to be a nut."

That sort of thing.
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I applaud you for wanting to educate the willfully ignorant. However....being willfully ignorant is a choice as opposed to be uninformed. You can put any facts you want to, and they will either scream fake news or say but Obama/Clinton.
 
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volprof said:
You can practically dig up a number of articles concerning his casinos, particularly the Taj Mahal. Also, Russian OC has ran illegal gambling rings out of Trump Tower for years.

Here, just look at this guy's page, if you don't follow him on Twitter already:

https://twitter.com/Khanoisseur?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^author

(Not one of my "trusted sources," but I good follow and a guy who has definitely done his research.)

Also, concerning Trump, money laundering, and ROC, read this thread by Schindler:

https://twitter.com/i/moments/818487233439207424?lang=en

(As you know, that is a "trusted source." He's always anywhere from a month to an entire year or two ahead of the mainstream media.)
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I have yet to see any definitive evidence that The Donald has knowingly and willfully engaged in money laundering. It's a sticky crime given the need for a third-party intermediary.

That's not to say that there aren't smoking guns all around. There are. But most of the evidence I see is based on guilt by association.

Yes, Donald has lied and twisted the truth that his business has relied on Russian money - especially after the 2008 financial melt-down.

Yes, there's Manafort in particular who clearly was up to his eyeballs in helping Putin.

Yes, Cypress banks, oligarchs buying his properties, the Donald's love of all things Putin, etc., but...

No, there is really only speculation at this point IMO as to whether The Donald is an international money launderer.

Ask yourself this: If The Donald were working with oligarchs illegally, wouldn't Putin and co. be holding the proverbial Sword of Damocles over his head? And wouldn't our intelligence agencies have already sniffed up at least a shred of chatter within their network? Hasn't happened to my knowledge.

Look, I think Donald is a dirtbag, and that he'd sell his Mom to the Barker next to the Tilt-o-Whirl for a stuffed animal, but I do not think our President is a money launderer.
 
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Velo Vol said:
The CIA doesn't have to take a neutral stance; it's an American institution advancing American interests.

Crazy, I know
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So to recap:

You believe it's wrong for Russia to interfere with our elections.

It's cool for the CIA to not only interfere, but even overthrow regimes when they see fit to advance American interests.

When did the entire left become war crazed neocons?
 
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volprof said:
My wife, who I have completely on board all of this, said to me the other day that "You do know though that we do interfere in other country's elections too, right?" to which I simply responded, "So?"

When it comes to us, I always take what I call the "Jed Eckhert" approach: why is it cool for us and not for others? "Because we live here!"
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Lmfao. You realize they live there (the places where we interfere).

This is perhaps the dumbest **** I've ever read
 
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