Turns out, slavery is good ... for the slaves

[RockyTop85]

It's important to point out that child sex slavery does prevent some kids from starving.

Students should note that internment camps sheltered many Japanese immigrants from racially motivated violence.

 

[NashVol11]

Students should note that internment camps sheltered many Japanese immigrants from racially motivated violence.

"What's the problem??? Technically it's true!"

 

[Vol8188]

It's important to point out that child sex slavery does prevent some kids from starving.

Depending on the age, 100% we should teach that economic (more so addiction in this country specifically) factors are what lead to child sex slavery. There are some in this country who will bodly/ignorantly proclaim that economics/money/wealth does not matter and that we should do x no matter the cost.

The truth is that it always matters and that it’s only our wealth that allows us to escape such things. If we lived in a country were starvation was a serious issue, child sex slavery would be very low on most people’s list of things to solve.

 

[GroverCleveland]

The “we love/trust/support our teachers crowd” has now spent 7 pages trying to convince us that teachers are going to tell kids slavery was good now

You know what, they’ve convinced me. Ron DeSantis is 100% in favor of slavery. The State of Florida is going to start teaching slavery was nothing more than a progressive jobs program. To “suggest” or “imply” otherwise is pure heresy.

 

[BowlBrother85]

The “we love/trust/support our teachers crowd” has now spent 7 pages trying to convince us that teachers are going to tell kids slavery was good now

This has nothing to do with teachers.

It is the Florida Board of Education including language in their curriculum which panders to the anti-woke establishment. This is a political stunt from an increasingly political board (which shouldn't be political at all!)

 

[Vol8188]

Has anyone expressed concern over teachers, or is this just another bad devil's advocate point to defend an inclusion that no one has been able to justify?

If they start throwing in positive points about the Holocaust are you going to make the same "it's a good thing; you trust teachers, right?" argument? I suspect not

I’ve multiple times asked you and another poster what the fear was here, to my knowledge neither have answered. I would assume your fear is that Florida teachers will teach slavery was a positive.

I’m not trying to misrepresent your argument. So please feel free to explain. What is your fear here? If it’s not the fear that Florida teachers will teach slavery was good?

 

[NashVol11]

You know what, they’ve convinced me. Ron DeSantis is 100% in favor of slavery. The State of Florida is going to start teaching slavery was nothing more than a progressive jobs program. To “suggest” or “imply” otherwise is pure heresy.

He doesn't have to be "in favor of slavery" for this to be an extremely questionable inclusion, should have stuck with "maybe it was unnecessary" instead of inventing strawmen to support it

 

[Vol8188]

This has nothing to do with teachers.

It is the Florida Board of Education including language in their curriculum which panders to the anti-woke establishment. This is a political stunt from an increasingly political board (which shouldn't be political at all!)

It seems you’re the one making it political. Not the Florida board of education. There’s nothing political in there

 

[NashVol11]

I’ve multiple times asked you and another poster what the fear was here, to my knowledge neither have answered. I would assume your fear is that Florida teachers will teach slavery was a positive.

I’m not trying to misrepresent your argument. So please feel free to explain. What is your fear here? If it’s not the fear that Florida teachers will teach slavery was good?

We don't need this "nuance" and it adds nothing to the curriculum. Do we need added nuance when discussing the Holocaust? (Speaking of questions that no one will answer)

 

[BowlBrother85]

It seems you’re the one making it political. Not the Florida board of education. There’s nothing political in there

Nobody is that naive.

 

[Septic]

Good grief, DeSantis can't get out of his own way. Is "the squad" secretly running his campaign?

If it weren't for stupid decisions, his campaign wouldn't have made any decisions.

 

[Vol8188]

We don't need this "nuance" and it adds nothing to the curriculum. Do we need added nuance when discussing the Holocaust? (Speaking of questions that no one will answer)

I included nuance mainly in reference to the topic of segregation that I brought up in a previous post, that’s why I’ve not really touched the question. It didn’t really apply (at least I didn’t mean it to) to the conversation of slavery because I don’t think “nuance” is the goal here for Florida and because my goal wasn’t to say “we should teach there were good aspects of slavery”.

Like I’ve said multiple times here I think the intent was to highlight the black men and women who overcame. Which when asked it about it was the same thing DeSantis said.

When slavery is taught today probably 90% (I’m assuming here) of the focus is on white people. If you’re going to teach African American history, the focus should remain on African Americans.

 

[GroverCleveland]

We don't need this "nuance" and it adds nothing to the curriculum. Do we need added nuance when discussing the Holocaust? (Speaking of questions that no one will answer)

Absolutely. No nuance about any major topic is acceptable. Even if there were something nuanced about it, it must be quashed immediately. We don’t need “nuance.” Because nobody answers questions.

 

[Vol8188]

Good grief, DeSantis can't get out of his own way. Is "the squad" secretly running his campaign?

If it weren't for stupid decisions, his campaign wouldn't have made any decisions.

You think he wrote these standards?

 

[NashVol11]

Absolutely. No nuance about any major topic is acceptable. Even if there were something nuanced about it, it must be quashed immediately. We don’t need “nuance.” Because nobody answers questions.

Yes those are definitely things people said, GroverStrawman. Quoted my post and still dodged the question

 

[volfanhill]

Students should note that internment camps sheltered many Japanese immigrants from racially motivated violence.

Slavery was bad. But the house slaves learned how to properly set a dinner table for dinner parties. After they were freed they had that to lean on.

 

[Vol8188]

Here’s the actual African American studies professors who wrote the standards talking about the nonsense controversy if anyone cares about the truth

Creators of African American school standards say guidelines criticized 'without context'

 

[Septic]

Slavery was bad. But the house slaves learned how to properly set a dinner table for dinner parties. After they were freed they had that to lean on.

 

[85SugarVol]

"Sure, the camps were bad. I totally don't condone them. No way. I'm a good guy. But did you know some Jews learned to sew?"

Well done.

 

[RikidyBones]

Here’s the actual African American studies professors who wrote the standards talking about the nonsense controversy if anyone cares about the truth

Creators of African American school standards say guidelines criticized 'without context'

Bunch of liberals are calling a couple of black men racist and out of tune with African slavery in the US?

Damn you DeSantis

 

[Vol8188]

Bunch of liberals are calling a couple of black men racist and out of tune with African slavery in the US?

Damn you DeSantis

Yes, the trust the experts crowd is highly upset with the experts because they think they can use it to score political points against DeSantis

 

[NashVol11]

Here’s the actual African American studies professors who wrote the standards talking about the nonsense controversy if anyone cares about the truth

Creators of African American school standards say guidelines criticized 'without context'

Talking about it and giving a bunch of "examples of people who benefitted" that weren't slaves. Lmao can't make this up, it keeps getting worse

 

[whodeycin85]

The “we love/trust/support our teachers crowd” has now spent 7 pages trying to convince us that teachers are going to tell kids slavery was good now

This in-between telling them about thier sexuaiity and what gender they are today...how will they find the time

 

[RikidyBones]

Talking about it and giving a bunch of "examples of people who benefitted" that weren't slaves. Lmao can't make this up, it keeps getting worse

So 20 years is too long a gap to feel the effects of slavery? Interesting

 

[volfanhill]

So 20 years is too long a gap to feel the effects of slavery? Interesting

Not what he said