'20 TX RB Zachary Evans

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Sudden Impact said:
Evans is a Whore player that deserves a Whore Coach (Kiffin) .
Let us Pay for a year of service in advance and pat on the A$$ at the end of it .
Probably not worth the cost or thrill of it.
Knowing probably higher chance of disease and it is going to piss off your other girlfriends or wives.
Should not and will not happen no matter how much money you have in the bank.
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A kid wanting to maximize his earning potential isn’t a whore lol. What a silly statement. Maybe he sees an opportunity to help his family. Or maybe he’s just making good business decisions. Regardless of the reasons, it doesn’t make him a whore just bc he didn’t pick your favorite team
 
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volbeast33 said:
White is fixing everything…. Our fans just need to be patient…. Everything is headed in a positive direction for the first time in years.
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Please start a thread with this title! The battered Vol syndrome sometimes is too much to tolerate from afar living in Florida. People need to stop being so impatient, sensitive and emotional about every little nitpicking thing that happens (or not)!
 
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AppStVol said:
It doesn’t take a “long time industry expert, connected AD” to be aware of the turbulence UTAD has experienced. White knows he will have a healthy budget and the SEC revenue stream so it’s a step up in his career progression, regardless of the headwinds he will face.

Again, we paid him over market value and he worked UT with his contract stipulations so his concerns were likely put to bed with his guaranteed soft landing.

I like White and desperately hope he does a stand up job for many years but some of the power matrix issues and lack of alignment are out of his control.
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You may be right. I just don't see someone with DW's potential and resources taking a career limiting position, and a one year salary wouldn't overcome the downside. Who knows? He might well have been on Duke's short list. At the time he was reputed to be a Top 5 AD wasn't he? Everybody has bosses and sometimes a boss can give you cover while other times the same boss can get too involved in your job. I think that is more personality than positional. UT President Lamar had us hire Wade Houston if I recall correctly. Maybe a few layers between him and Dickey (?) would have helped. But maybe not.

I also hope he succeeds.
 
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Montrell Hardy said:
The politics and bureaucracy causes all kinds of issues for the program now that the Chancellor is involved. Financial issues, recruiting issues, academic issues, discipline issues, etc. That was never the case when the AD reported directly to the President.
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That’s not necessarily true. Academic issues still resided with the Chancellor. When the decision was made to move the AD under the Chancellor, part of the reasoning was because UTK was getting the lion’s share of attention/money while the others, e.g. UTC, UTM, etc. were not able to grow their programs like they wanted and the President makes the decision on how to distribute all the resources. There was also a revenue component… incoming revenue was being decided by the President - and as long as that was good for UTK (under President Johnson), then all was good. Once the Presidency was “in crisis,” - remember all the craziness - then interim presidents and short-lived presidents were redistributing the revenue away from UTK. Jimmy Cheek wanted that money/decision making back at UTK for the good of UTK. The good of the athletic department really hinges on who is in the leadership positions… Good President/Bad President, Good Chancellor/Bad Chancellor… I happened to be in the office while all of this debate was going on.
 
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AppStVol said:
It doesn’t take a “long time industry expert, connected AD” to be aware of the turbulence UTAD has experienced. White knows he will have a healthy budget and the SEC revenue stream so it’s a step up in his career progression, regardless of the headwinds he will face.

Again, we paid him over market value and he worked UT with his contract stipulations so his concerns were likely put to bed with his guaranteed soft landing.

I like White and desperately hope he does a stand up job for many years but some of the power matrix issues and lack of alignment are out of his control.
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I don’t know if I agree with all that…. Look at the baseball program…. TV gave people a reason to believe….. money and supports has been overflowing now…. The football program will be the same as more and more people feel confident in the vision of the program.
 
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It’s really entertaining watching people make excuses why they don’t want elite talent when they don’t pick us. Same people will call for Huepels head when team first culture they don’t want evans a part of and no elite talent gets us an 8 win ceiling.
 
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volbeast33 said:
I don’t know if I agree with all that…. Look at the baseball program…. TV gave people a reason to believe….. money and supports has been overflowing now…. The football program will be the same as more and more people feel confident in the vision of the program.
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You are obviously very positive about the current state of UT athletics, which is great. I’m not here to try to argue or be a negative voice so this is the last post I’ll make on this topic.

Having said that, you cannot compare college baseball to football. The intricacies of necessary internal support are on an entirely different scope. Ex. Vandy. We struck gold with a bargain bin hire in Vitello and thankfully the AD didn’t drop the ball with retention planning. If anything that displays how good Vitello really is, coupled with some blind luck on our end.

It takes much more than just money and fan support to succeed in football in the modern day SEC. It’s removing internal inefficiencies, meddling and unnessary rubber stamping coaches like Saban and Kirby don’t face. You think Bama’s Chancellor would ever air dirty laundry to NCAA around compliance to avoid a buyout? Guarantee you that said chancellors tenure would be short lived.
 
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AppStVol said:
You are obviously very positive about the current state of UT athletics, which is great. I’m not here to try to argue or be a negative voice so this is the last post I’ll make on this topic.

Having said that, you cannot compare college baseball to football. The intricacies of necessary internal support are on an entirely different scope. Ex. Vandy. We struck gold with a bargain bin hire in Vitello and thankfully the AD didn’t drop the ball with retention planning. If anything that displays how good Vitello really is, coupled with some blind luck on our end.

It takes much more than just money and fan support to succeed in football in the modern day SEC. It’s removing internal inefficiencies, meddling and unnessary rubber stamping coaches like Saban and Kirby don’t face. You think Bama’s Chancellor would ever air dirty laundry to NCAA around compliance to avoid a buyout? Guarantee you that said chancellors tenure would be short lived.
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I agree with most of that including it being ridiculous that we turned ourselves…. I agree that we need to all be pushing in the same direction…. I disagree with how we got here though….I feel that we didn’t have these issues in the 90’s bc we had very strong athletic leadership in Dickey…. I feel it started changing when the leadership over the athletic programs became very weak minded(Hamilton)…. We finally hired a true leader imo in Danny White……He seems to be taking charge…. Listening to fans…. Making tough decisions…. And getting things…. Times are changing, imo.
 
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AppStVol said:
We overpaid for him so he came for the golden parachute and generational wealth. He likely wasn’t aware of all the disfunction until he arrived.

White is a good AD, but we have had such a run of incompetent ADs that the bar is quite low here. Common denominator is that these Chancellor’s are making the hires with their own agenda in mind and therefore going for the weasel type they can control.
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I don’t believe this. Danny White is a good, young AD with his whole family involved in college athletics. With a father at a big time basketball school and a brother at a big time competitor, you don’t think he knows the pulse of most high level colleges?

At UCF, White was the highest paid AD in the state. Going from 1.1 million to 1.8 million is not “generational wealth” or a “golden parachute.”

My guess is that he knew the brand and potential and wanted a P5 challenge at a higher salary. He truly can’t win national titles at UCF. He is somewhat akin to a young coach who is good enough to always find a head coaching job, if fired at the P5 level.
 
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Memphisvol87 said:
It’s really entertaining watching people make excuses why they don’t want elite talent when they don’t pick us. Same people will call for Huepels head when team first culture they don’t want evans a part of and no elite talent gets us an 8 win ceiling.
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Evans would be great to have, but he isn’t the only one that could thrive in this offense. We just went 7-5 against the toughest SEC schedule with Tiyon Evans barely playing half our games.
 
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Nobody from spyre met with Evans. Anyone saying otherwise is very misinformed. For whatever reason, TN chose to not bring Evans in. They were gonna be a toss up at best to land him even if he had come. I’m aware this is gonna cause a panic on here for some but I’m tired of people lying. To the best of my knowledge Corner36 hasn’t made a post since fake buck posted. Buck I believe took care of that issue on here after we spoke the other day. I can’t control other sites.
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Obviously they didn't bring him in because Donde told them not to. As I understand it all potential recruit visits have to be approved by the Chancellor.
 
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