'20 TX RB Zachary Evans

[bpalmer28]

Just going back thru this in my head, and instead of just saying what he wanted to say.. de1 used butchna in all of this.... pisses me off

I missed that... what happened with butchna?

 

[butchna]

Just going back thru this in my head, and instead of just saying what he wanted to say.. de1 used butchna in all of this.... pisses me off

I appreciate the sentiment behind it, but I wasn't used. The guy shared some intel with me and didn't sell me on anything. I judged it on face value and am sticking with it being solid. I have no iron in the fire on the NIL stuff. I just saw who met with whom (coaches and player) and had a timeframe.

 

[butchna]

Heard Donde tried to block Hooker from getting an NIL deal to return. Luckily Danny White put on his hero cape and gave her a big fact NO!

All hail Danny White. Whoever hired him ACTUALLY had a brain.

That would be Donde.

 

[Jackcrevol]

Heard Donde tried to block Hooker from getting an NIL deal to return. Luckily Danny White put on his hero cape and gave her a big fact NO!

All hail Danny White. Whoever hired him ACTUALLY had a brain.

Wasnt Plowman, it would require aformentioned.

 

[butchna]

I didn't think of it that way but your right. He played Butchna

Real boring board game if you have the details.

 

[StoVol]

I missed that... what happened with butchna?

Instead of posting what he knew, he told butchna to Holler at him on here. Then butchna comes back saying he's seen some evidence of some good news possibly late this week... 2 to 3 days ago. Unraveled well before then. But seems like he chose someone he perceived had clout to put forth this info for him, to shield him from who Knows what, to make it seem more believable maybe?

No official visit... coaches may have agreed to see Evans just to keep NPA in their good graces, knowing they are shady, probably secretly despise them

 

[InVOLuntary]

Which there is already some investigations on the handling of NIL by the NCAA

Yeah, they're investigating lsu basketball too. But, seriously, there's no way to police it. The rule that's being broken is the schools involvement I the NIL. The boosters can give as much as they want ynder the guise of NIL.

I'm not talking from an uniformed position. I've had discussions with folks about NIL deals. There's legitimate ones and there's the ones that are simply facades to funnel money to players to secure their commitment with no expectations of ROI. It's impossible to legally tell one from the other. Pandora's box is open. Things will never be the same.

 

[SweetasSoda]

That would be Donde.

Was wondering who’s would break the news.

 

[Vols1117]

Yeah, they're investigating lsu basketball too. But, seriously, there's no way to police it. The rule that's being broken is the schools involvement I the NIL. The boosters can give as much as they want ynder the guise of NIL.

I'm not talking from an uniformed position. I've had discussions with folks about NIL deals. There's legitimate ones and there's the ones that are simply facades to funnel money to players to secure their commitment with no expectations of ROI. It's impossible to legally tell one from the other. Pandora's box is open. Things will never be the same.

Rich get richer

 

[butchna]

Instead of posting what he knew, he told butchna to Holler at him on here. Then butchna comes back saying he's seen some evidence of some good news possibly late this week... 2 to 3 days ago. Unraveled well before then. But seems like he chose someone he perceived had clout to put forth this info for him, to shield him from who Knows what, to make it seem more believable maybe?

No official visit... coaches may have agreed to see Evans just to keep NPA in their good graces, knowing they are shady, probably secretly despise them

He didn't engineer anything. He shared pics of the meeting as well as the pic that NPA later tweeted. Me getting overexcited about the potential chain effect is on me. Lesson learned. He did the same 3 years ago BEFORE the Chaney hire and I didn't utter a peep... so a newbie move in reverse. I trust De1. Nothing's changed on that front. I do understand how he chafes many the wrong way. I was the worst at giving him crap. He can take care of himself and doesn't need me to vouch for him...so I'll do it anyway. Go Vols.

 

[VolByLaw]

I don't think we will ever recruit at a high level again until Donde is gone.

 

[StoVol]

He didn't engineer anything. He shared pics of the meeting as well as the pic that NPA later tweeted. Me getting overexcited about the potential chain effect is on me. Lesson learned. He did the same 3 years ago BEFORE the Chaney hire and I didn't utter a peep... so a newbie move in reverse. I trust De1. Nothing's changed on that front. I do understand how he chafes many the wrong way. I was the worst at giving him crap. He can take care of himself and doesn't need me to vouch for him...so I'll do it anyway. Go Vols.

We'll have to disagree on that, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my kid. I think Buck is making a mistake with this hanger on and will ruin his reputation.

But much love this Christmas and sorry about the Bears 4-8... yikes

 

[butchna]

We'll have to disagree on that, I wouldn't want him anywhere near my kid. I think Buck is making a mistake with this hanger on and will ruin his reputation.

But much love this Christmas and sorry about the Bears 4-8... yikes

Preshate it. My Mack jersey is serving a prison sentence.

 

[VFL10]

I don't think we will ever recruit at a high level again until Donde is gone.

Good thing we don’t need too. We almost went 9-3 with some scrubs

 

[StoVol]

Good thing we don’t need too. We almost went 9-3 with some scrubs

Hard to get love from me with them

 

[VolGee4]

I don't think we will ever recruit at a high level again until Donde is gone.

Lol…people say this with no evidence.

 

[bpalmer28]

Instead of posting what he knew, he told butchna to Holler at him on here. Then butchna comes back saying he's seen some evidence of some good news possibly late this week... 2 to 3 days ago. Unraveled well before then. But seems like he chose someone he perceived had clout to put forth this info for him, to shield him from who Knows what, to make it seem more believable maybe?

No official visit... coaches may have agreed to see Evans just to keep NPA in their good graces, knowing they are shady, probably secretly despise them

Thanks... maybe de1 is throwing shade on Spyre because they pose a threat to NPA? Maybe he's afraid players will start going to Spyre for deals instead of going through NPA?

 

[InVOLuntary]

I don't think we will ever recruit at a high level again until Donde is gone.

I don't believe Donde is the problem. The problem is with the boosters, or the lack thereof. Our mega boosters aren't invested in the program as much in the past. The Haslams are totally out. Big Jim is in his 90's and isn't in his best of health. Jimmy basically lives in Cleveland and is solely focused on the Browns. I thought Charlie Ergan might step up given that he has bought advertising and NIL is advertising so I could see that working but that doesn't seem to be coming into fruition. We don't have these boosters that other programs have now. We don't have boosters willing to just buy players under the guise of NIL as other programs are doing.

 

[BP4Prez]

Instead of posting what he knew, he told butchna to Holler at him on here. Then butchna comes back saying he's seen some evidence of some good news possibly late this week... 2 to 3 days ago. Unraveled well before then. But seems like he chose someone he perceived had clout to put forth this info for him, to shield him from who Knows what, to make it seem more believable maybe?

No official visit... coaches may have agreed to see Evans just to keep NPA in their good graces, knowing they are shady, probably secretly despise them

There was no official visit because the NIL offer was garbage. There was no need for a visit.

 

[butchna]

Thanks... maybe de1 is throwing shade on Spyre because they pose a thread to NPA? Maybe he's afraid players will start going to Spyre for deals instead of going through NPA?

Are they running player development programs?

 

[gorockytop98]

That would be Donde.

That can't be right.

 

[butchna]

That can't be right.

That’s who makes that hire. Check the archives for those who make the bad hires. Cost Beverly her gig.

 

[SouthKnoxVOL]

That’s who makes that hire. Check the archives for those who make the bad hires. Cost Beverly her gig.

The reason Beverly lost her gig...was not because of that. They got rid of Bev because she stood up against the Haslams and would not let them outsource a ton of campus jobs. That would of resulted in letting go of a lot of workers and f***** them out of their retirement pension.

 

[m1al]

Just going back thru this in my head, and instead of just saying what he wanted to say.. de1 used butchna in all of this.... pisses me off

Dayumm, what did I miss? I saw where De1 lied about the NIL meeting/offer. How did butchna get drawn in?

Edit: Nevermind, all caught up now...

 

[butchna]

The reason Beverly lost her gig...was not because of that. They got rid of Bev because she stood up against the Haslams and would not let them outsource a ton of campus jobs. That would of resulted in letting go of a lot of workers and f***** them out of their retirement pension.

Yeah...I championed her for that. But the preceding mess of a search was on the AD and the AD hire was on her.