'22 TX WR Evan Stewart (Oregon)

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TrippieRedd said:
Is Evan better than Squirrel, when I say that, I mean do you want one year of Evan or two more of Squirrel? I’ll take 2 more of squirrel.

You can make an arguement that Squirrel is a better WR, take a look at the stats from this season, pretty comparable. So would you replace a 2yr guy with a 1yr guy that’s very close?

No, I would take him contingent upon if he is fine playing outside. If he is only gonna be here one year anyways, then put him outside let him get his 400+ yards and send him off to the NFL, meanwhile you get Squirrel back for the 2025 season
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Look at the draft charts and see who NFL GMs and scouts think is better
 
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wmcovol said:
Supposedly his price is $1.4mil for 1 season. I don’t see Tennessee doing that.
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If that is true, the money would be better spent towards McKinley or Seaton, if either are a legit option. In my opinion, which means nothing, the line-of-scrimmage is vastly more important.
 
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vol94 said:
Agree, good post.

I will add one more comment. None of us know what is going on inside the locker room, especially with NIL $$$. Heup may be looking for depth or possibly he thinks someone may leave.

I ran into a couple of rising jrs yesterday (good kids) who currently hit the portal. It’s amazing how much of a business college football has become with coaches recruiting over existing players and players seeking NIL.
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Who is advising these “rising jrs” around their strategies involving the portal?

Can they connect with agents?
 
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ALStateLineVol said:
If that is true, the money would be better spent towards McKinley or Seaton, if either are a legit option. In my opinion, which means nothing, the line-of-scrimmage is vastly more important.
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Pretty sure Seaton is gone. But I agree with your point.
 
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Smokey'sHandler said:
I have brought up stats which is being objective. He had 1 game against UK where he looked better than the rest of the season where he had 3 catches for 63 yards with the majority of that coming on the 47 yd catch and run. He went back to being essentially non-existent in his 1 half against UConn then he certainly had a good catch against Mizzou. If you combine them his “turning the corner” was turning in an below average to average starters performance against UK below average performance against UConn and I will give him an above average performance against Mizzou due to the difficulty of the catch. Was he turning the corner vs non-existence? Yes but in reality it was around an average starters performance.

Yet we have younger guys turning in the same type of performances and they aren’t seen as turning the corner. Nimrod smoked the UK defender for his long TD. Did the guy fall down? Yes but it was after he already had smoked him off the line.

I just feel we have some development thats lacking on the Hs guys to try to bring the production out of a combine warrior and it’s not turning into much.
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Except the "combine warrior" started to turn it on after he got healthy. But you don't want to acknowledge that.

Non-existent against UConn? 2 catches 26 yards is non-existent? Did you watch that game?

The starters only played one half and we only threw the ball 14 times in the first half. Ramel and Squirrel only had two catches. The offense was hardly on the field for the first half.

He caught a 4 yard pass then took a slant for 22 yards.

Webb had one catch for 28 yards and Nimrod recorded no stats.

Also, what development issues are you even talking about? Webb and Nimrod went from not playing at all as true freshman to getting significant playing time as sophomores. Sure sounds like development to me!

You're just hellbent on giving up on Thornton. I'm sure it will be your schtick all offseason.
 
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VolNash17 said:
Look at the draft charts and see who NFL GMs and scouts think is better
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Putting that aside. Would you rather have one year of Stewart or 2 of Squirrel? If we tell Stewart you’re the slot guy, we lose Squirrel.

If Bru goes, we tell Stewart he can play outside, get his yards and go pro, and we keep Squirrel.

Putting Stewart on the outside and having 2 WRs 6ft or shorter Is okay and Stewart would be fine on the outside. He would probably be just as good as Bru, maybe not at blocking, but overall you probably wouldn’t notice. I’m arguing I’d rather have Stewart on the outside than Bru who may get hurt again, it’s an unknown with him.
 
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Orangeblood75 said:
I think Bru is the most physical and strong receiver we’ve had since that man we all call JJ . Give Bru credit, he’s the most reliable receiver in crunch time and a TOTAL BAD AZZ. I sure hope he stays and has a great year.
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Exactly. Don’t forget we need WR’s that can block as well. Bru is a monster there
 
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Volbrando said:
Exactly. Don’t forget we need WR’s that can block as well. Bru is a monster there
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I think if Bru is back and 100% he has to be on the field and if Brazzel is as advertised he has to be on the field. That leaves a bunch of good players fighting for the other spot.
 
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TrippieRedd said:
MOST OF THE VIKINGS WRs SKILLSET TRANSLATE BEST TO THE SLOT, BUT GUESS WHAT MONGOLOID? THEY STILL PLAY THEM, WHY? IT GIVES THEM THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN. IM NOT ARGUING HIS BLOCKING, IM ARGUING HE CAN PLAY OUTSIDE

The sooner you get that through your head, the better.

What matters where he would help the team the most and that’s outside. I don’t give a **** where it helps Evan the most, not about him. Him replacing squirrel in the slot, doesn’t help the team. Him replacing an injured Bru and keeping Squirrel, helps the team.

Do I need to ****ing draw it for you
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No, you’ve illustrated plenty already. Just not what you think you have. Happy Holidays.
 
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Stoerner Fumbles said:
The perception here of inside/outside positions is terribly misguided. Heupel’s O has 30+ basic route groups. Two years ago, we ran about 24 route groups. Many were designed to break cover two and man match with either Hyatt or outside 2 hitting a coverage gap. We used slot as a coverage break. At UCF, Heupel used slot to pick and cross, and ran outside guys into posts deep. Last year, over 90% of our plays came from four primary routes, outside of screens. We ran almost nothing over the middle, no flags, short flags or posts. We ran fly patterns and comebacks almost completely, except in the red zone. Heupel has always pulled routes based on talent and matchups. Last year, the blend of Milton’s skills and challenges combined with available receivers and matchups meant we really limited the playbook. A six foot super-athlete like Matthews or Staley (or Stewart) can play anywhere. Full stop. Stop pretending you know what a slot is because “AP said”. That isn’t how this offense or any similar offense works. Squirrel might have limitations, but that is not true of Staley or Matthews. A 6 foot 180 guy is prime to play inside OR one of the outside positions. Another myth— Thornton didn’t get better because of a position switch. That’s more “I heard it on a podcast” gibberish. He got better because he got over an injury and started to practice. They limited his routes, as they did with the whole offense last year. He can play either position and either position well. He did so all Fall practice before he got hurt. They just decided to get his timing tight with Milton on limited routes, and they all came from that set. Next year, a healthy roster means we’ll do very well in the passing game. Our returning core is good, but I’m very excited about the new guys too. Brazzell gives us a really great options for high balls, back shoulder throws and go routes on the outside. He may not be Julio Jones, but he is a nightmare for a six foot corner. Staes is a physical mismatch in the middle and has the speed to pull a safety into dead zones. Matthews and Staley are the prototypical 6 foot 180 athletes that could play safety or WR in the NFL. You love having that body type on O. No one knows Bru’s recovery trajectory, but he is world class blocker, and plays a tough game on smaller guys. Don’t forget that Seldon is the first RB we’ve had since Kamara that lives to catch a short ball on the run. He has the hands, body and speed to make teams respect him when he releases. It’s the most promising WR room we’ve had in a very long time. Playing time is going to be tight, but what a great group.
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I like the words. Do more words.
 
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Smokey'sHandler said:
Where is the assertion coming from that Matthews is not an outside guy? Is it because of his height? Dude is a vicious blocker, physical on the outside and electric with the ball in his hands. Outside of him not being 6’2”+ he screams outside guy for us.
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I didn't assert that. I said he could go either way. And he can.
 
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volfan_28 said:
In terms of his ability to get separation and gain yards after the catch, there’s probably not much difference between Nimrod and Stewart. It’s his hall skills that set him apart. He’s like Jennings in that regard. If the ball is close to him you know he’s going to catch it. We don’t have a guy like that on our roster.
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Have you watched Stewart play? No offence to Nimrod, but Stewart is a superior WR in every aspect.
 
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