'22 TX WR Evan Stewart (Oregon)

[Hunerwadel]

The perception here of inside/outside positions is terribly misguided. Heupel’s O has 30+ basic route groups. Two years ago, we ran about 24 route groups. Many were designed to break cover two and man match with either Hyatt or outside 2 hitting a coverage gap. We used slot as a coverage break. At UCF, Heupel used slot to pick and cross, and ran outside guys into posts deep. Last year, over 90% of our plays came from four primary routes, outside of screens. We ran almost nothing over the middle, no flags, short flags or posts. We ran fly patterns and comebacks almost completely, except in the red zone. Heupel has always pulled routes based on talent and matchups. Last year, the blend of Milton’s skills and challenges combined with available receivers and matchups meant we really limited the playbook. A six foot super-athlete like Matthews or Staley (or Stewart) can play anywhere. Full stop. Stop pretending you know what a slot is because “AP said”. That isn’t how this offense or any similar offense works. Squirrel might have limitations, but that is not true of Staley or Matthews. A 6 foot 180 guy is prime to play inside OR one of the outside positions. Another myth— Thornton didn’t get better because of a position switch. That’s more “I heard it on a podcast” gibberish. He got better because he got over an injury and started to practice. They limited his routes, as they did with the whole offense last year. He can play either position and either position well. He did so all Fall practice before he got hurt. They just decided to get his timing tight with Milton on limited routes, and they all came from that set. Next year, a healthy roster means we’ll do very well in the passing game. Our returning core is good, but I’m very excited about the new guys too. Brazzell gives us a really great options for high balls, back shoulder throws and go routes on the outside. He may not be Julio Jones, but he is a nightmare for a six foot corner. Staes is a physical mismatch in the middle and has the speed to pull a safety into dead zones. Matthews and Staley are the prototypical 6 foot 180 athletes that could play safety or WR in the NFL. You love having that body type on O. No one knows Bru’s recovery trajectory, but he is world class blocker, and plays a tough game on smaller guys. Don’t forget that Seldon is the first RB we’ve had since Kamara that lives to catch a short ball on the run. He has the hands, body and speed to make teams respect him when he releases. It’s the most promising WR room we’ve had in a very long time. Playing time is going to be tight, but what a great group.

That's what I was gonna say.

 

[PitterPatter]

Briefly looked through the thread and didn’t see this posted. Sorry if it’s old news.

Saw an article from 2020 about his ties to UT. Sounds like it could be a natural fit. Attached here.

"My whole family went to the University of Tennessee," Stewart said. "The offer meant a lot for that reason. I didn't tell (my family). I let them find out on their own (laughs). They blew my phone up."

"Of course they are going to want me to go to Tennessee," Stewart said.

 

[Jackcrevol]

The perception here of inside/outside positions is terribly misguided. Heupel’s O has 30+ basic route groups. Two years ago, we ran about 24 route groups. Many were designed to break cover two and man match with either Hyatt or outside 2 hitting a coverage gap. We used slot as a coverage break. At UCF, Heupel used slot to pick and cross, and ran outside guys into posts deep. Last year, over 90% of our plays came from four primary routes, outside of screens. We ran almost nothing over the middle, no flags, short flags or posts. We ran fly patterns and comebacks almost completely, except in the red zone. Heupel has always pulled routes based on talent and matchups. Last year, the blend of Milton’s skills and challenges combined with available receivers and matchups meant we really limited the playbook. A six foot super-athlete like Matthews or Staley (or Stewart) can play anywhere. Full stop. Stop pretending you know what a slot is because “AP said”. That isn’t how this offense or any similar offense works. Squirrel might have limitations, but that is not true of Staley or Matthews. A 6 foot 180 guy is prime to play inside OR one of the outside positions. Another myth— Thornton didn’t get better because of a position switch. That’s more “I heard it on a podcast” gibberish. He got better because he got over an injury and started to practice. They limited his routes, as they did with the whole offense last year. He can play either position and either position well. He did so all Fall practice before he got hurt. They just decided to get his timing tight with Milton on limited routes, and they all came from that set. Next year, a healthy roster means we’ll do very well in the passing game. Our returning core is good, but I’m very excited about the new guys too. Brazzell gives us a really great options for high balls, back shoulder throws and go routes on the outside. He may not be Julio Jones, but he is a nightmare for a six foot corner. Staes is a physical mismatch in the middle and has the speed to pull a safety into dead zones. Matthews and Staley are the prototypical 6 foot 180 athletes that could play safety or WR in the NFL. You love having that body type on O. No one knows Bru’s recovery trajectory, but he is world class blocker, and plays a tough game on smaller guys. Don’t forget that Seldon is the first RB we’ve had since Kamara that lives to catch a short ball on the run. He has the hands, body and speed to make teams respect him when he releases. It’s the most promising WR room we’ve had in a very long time. Playing time is going to be tight, but what a great group.

-$9.95

kidding nice breakdown

 

[Lars]

I do not know who the post was about either, but I do know better than to ask a simple question like that around here.

 

[bpalmer28]

Have you watched Stewart play? No offence to Nimrod, but Stewart is a superior WR in every aspect.

Some of the things I say is just to make our players and coaches or their families feel better in case one of them stumbles across these conversations some day.

 

[Dudley Smith]

Who took himself out of the last 4 games? Nolan or Stewart?

Stewart

 

[knox73]

Stewart quit on high school team senior season. What do you do when NIL players refuse to suit up?

 

[jakez4ut]

Stewart quit on high school team senior season. What do you do when NIL players refuse to suit up?

 

[WilliamDuVOL]

The perception here of inside/outside positions is terribly misguided. Heupel’s O has 30+ basic route groups. Two years ago, we ran about 24 route groups. Many were designed to break cover two and man match with either Hyatt or outside 2 hitting a coverage gap. We used slot as a coverage break. At UCF, Heupel used slot to pick and cross, and ran outside guys into posts deep. Last year, over 90% of our plays came from four primary routes, outside of screens. We ran almost nothing over the middle, no flags, short flags or posts. We ran fly patterns and comebacks almost completely, except in the red zone. Heupel has always pulled routes based on talent and matchups. Last year, the blend of Milton’s skills and challenges combined with available receivers and matchups meant we really limited the playbook. A six foot super-athlete like Matthews or Staley (or Stewart) can play anywhere. Full stop. Stop pretending you know what a slot is because “AP said”. That isn’t how this offense or any similar offense works. Squirrel might have limitations, but that is not true of Staley or Matthews. A 6 foot 180 guy is prime to play inside OR one of the outside positions. Another myth— Thornton didn’t get better because of a position switch. That’s more “I heard it on a podcast” gibberish. He got better because he got over an injury and started to practice. They limited his routes, as they did with the whole offense last year. He can play either position and either position well. He did so all Fall practice before he got hurt. They just decided to get his timing tight with Milton on limited routes, and they all came from that set. Next year, a healthy roster means we’ll do very well in the passing game. Our returning core is good, but I’m very excited about the new guys too. Brazzell gives us a really great options for high balls, back shoulder throws and go routes on the outside. He may not be Julio Jones, but he is a nightmare for a six foot corner. Staes is a physical mismatch in the middle and has the speed to pull a safety into dead zones. Matthews and Staley are the prototypical 6 foot 180 athletes that could play safety or WR in the NFL. You love having that body type on O. No one knows Bru’s recovery trajectory, but he is world class blocker, and plays a tough game on smaller guys. Don’t forget that Seldon is the first RB we’ve had since Kamara that lives to catch a short ball on the run. He has the hands, body and speed to make teams respect him when he releases. It’s the most promising WR room we’ve had in a very long time. Playing time is going to be tight, but what a great group.

I learned more reading this one post than I have in a long time on this website. Thank you.

 

[cobbwebb0710]

Ever heard of a guy called squirrel?

I saw that movie...or was that a man called horse?

 

[SCvol333]

Anyone have an article/stat for our WR drop rate? It felt high to me this year. Seemed worst than most years but didn’t know if anyone had a good link. I figured PFF would do that type of measurement. Googled around didn’t find anything.

Also if the WRs didn’t want to be recruited over they could have played better. If we can land a talented player. And he’s not a complete nut job. We need to upgrade the talent of that room.

 

[Evol]

The perception here of inside/outside positions is terribly misguided. Heupel’s O has 30+ basic route groups. Two years ago, we ran about 24 route groups. Many were designed to break cover two and man match with either Hyatt or outside 2 hitting a coverage gap. We used slot as a coverage break. At UCF, Heupel used slot to pick and cross, and ran outside guys into posts deep. Last year, over 90% of our plays came from four primary routes, outside of screens. We ran almost nothing over the middle, no flags, short flags or posts. We ran fly patterns and comebacks almost completely, except in the red zone. Heupel has always pulled routes based on talent and matchups. Last year, the blend of Milton’s skills and challenges combined with available receivers and matchups meant we really limited the playbook. A six foot super-athlete like Matthews or Staley (or Stewart) can play anywhere. Full stop. Stop pretending you know what a slot is because “AP said”. That isn’t how this offense or any similar offense works. Squirrel might have limitations, but that is not true of Staley or Matthews. A 6 foot 180 guy is prime to play inside OR one of the outside positions. Another myth— Thornton didn’t get better because of a position switch. That’s more “I heard it on a podcast” gibberish. He got better because he got over an injury and started to practice. They limited his routes, as they did with the whole offense last year. He can play either position and either position well. He did so all Fall practice before he got hurt. They just decided to get his timing tight with Milton on limited routes, and they all came from that set. Next year, a healthy roster means we’ll do very well in the passing game. Our returning core is good, but I’m very excited about the new guys too. Brazzell gives us a really great options for high balls, back shoulder throws and go routes on the outside. He may not be Julio Jones, but he is a nightmare for a six foot corner. Staes is a physical mismatch in the middle and has the speed to pull a safety into dead zones. Matthews and Staley are the prototypical 6 foot 180 athletes that could play safety or WR in the NFL. You love having that body type on O. No one knows Bru’s recovery trajectory, but he is world class blocker, and plays a tough game on smaller guys. Don’t forget that Seldon is the first RB we’ve had since Kamara that lives to catch a short ball on the run. He has the hands, body and speed to make teams respect him when he releases. It’s the most promising WR room we’ve had in a very long time. Playing time is going to be tight, but what a great group.

 

[CAVPUT]

Stewart quit on high school team senior season. What do you do when NIL players refuse to suit up?

No bueno. Like Nolan and Seaton, no thanks. Hard pass.

 

[Vol8188]

Anyone have an article/stat for our WR drop rate? It felt high to me this year. Seemed worst than most years but didn’t know if anyone had a good link. I figured PFF would do that type of measurement. Googled around didn’t find anything.

Also if the WRs didn’t want to be recruited over they could have played better. If we can land a talented player. And he’s not a complete nut job. We need to upgrade the talent of that room.

I imagine velocity had something to do with that

 

[BigALWiLson]

Well, you’d be pushing White to the Portal.

If that’s the case, I wouldn’t touch Stewart. If Evan is fine playing outside, then take him.

Squirrel > Stewart. If I have to pull this seasons stats I will.

Bwahahhaha

 

[CAVPUT]

I imagine velocity had something to do with that

 

[vol94]

Who is advising these “rising jrs” around their strategies involving the portal?

Can they connect with agents

In their situation, the coordinators told them they would not start next yr. One was told he would not be 2nd on depth chart.

So, the kids hit the portal and NIL wasn’t part of the decision. They will be going moving a long distance from family, so it will be an adjustment.

Players can have NIL conversations with “third parties” but supposedly Not with agents.

 

[Carp]

The perception here of inside/outside positions is terribly misguided. Heupel’s O has 30+ basic route groups. Two years ago, we ran about 24 route groups. Many were designed to break cover two and man match with either Hyatt or outside 2 hitting a coverage gap. We used slot as a coverage break. At UCF, Heupel used slot to pick and cross, and ran outside guys into posts deep. Last year, over 90% of our plays came from four primary routes, outside of screens. We ran almost nothing over the middle, no flags, short flags or posts. We ran fly patterns and comebacks almost completely, except in the red zone. Heupel has always pulled routes based on talent and matchups. Last year, the blend of Milton’s skills and challenges combined with available receivers and matchups meant we really limited the playbook. A six foot super-athlete like Matthews or Staley (or Stewart) can play anywhere. Full stop. Stop pretending you know what a slot is because “AP said”. That isn’t how this offense or any similar offense works. Squirrel might have limitations, but that is not true of Staley or Matthews. A 6 foot 180 guy is prime to play inside OR one of the outside positions. Another myth— Thornton didn’t get better because of a position switch. That’s more “I heard it on a podcast” gibberish. He got better because he got over an injury and started to practice. They limited his routes, as they did with the whole offense last year. He can play either position and either position well. He did so all Fall practice before he got hurt. They just decided to get his timing tight with Milton on limited routes, and they all came from that set. Next year, a healthy roster means we’ll do very well in the passing game. Our returning core is good, but I’m very excited about the new guys too. Brazzell gives us a really great options for high balls, back shoulder throws and go routes on the outside. He may not be Julio Jones, but he is a nightmare for a six foot corner. Staes is a physical mismatch in the middle and has the speed to pull a safety into dead zones. Matthews and Staley are the prototypical 6 foot 180 athletes that could play safety or WR in the NFL. You love having that body type on O. No one knows Bru’s recovery trajectory, but he is world class blocker, and plays a tough game on smaller guys. Don’t forget that Seldon is the first RB we’ve had since Kamara that lives to catch a short ball on the run. He has the hands, body and speed to make teams respect him when he releases. It’s the most promising WR room we’ve had in a very long time. Playing time is going to be tight, but what a great group.

Good read.

But in regards to Thornton, you say he was injured. Unless that injury was on his hands, I am not buying that as an excuse for his early season woes. He literally dropped 6-7 wide open passes, and at least 2-3 of them would have been easy TDs. Considering he was only getting 2-3 targets per game, dropping half of those opportunities is unacceptable. I'm glad he started coming on at the end, but the dropped passes are going to have to stop if he's to be relied upon going forward.

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

Good read.

But in regards to Thornton, you say he was injured. Unless that injury was on his hands, I am not buying that as an excuse for his early season woes. He literally dropped 6-7 wide open passes, and at least 2-3 of them would have been easy TDs. Considering he was only getting 2-3 targets per game, dropping half of those opportunities is unacceptable. I'm glad he started coming on at the end, but the dropped passes are going to have to stop if he's to be relied upon going forward.

You don’t have to buy facts. They’re free. He missed weeks of practice during the season. Missing practice reps affects timing, and catches. That’s a fact that anyone who has coached a qb or receiver will tell you. It’s also the case in this situation. Catching a ball from Milton in stride is not tossing a beanbag with grandma in the bathroom.

 

[PEPPERJAX]

You don’t have to buy facts. They’re free. He missed weeks of practice during the season. Missing practice reps affects timing, and catches. That’s a fact that anyone who has coached a qb or receiver will tell you. It’s also the case in this situation. Catching a ball from Milton in stride is not tossing a beanbag with grandma in the bathroom.

Gotta ask, you have done this before?

 

[JCVol00]

Gotta ask, you have done this before?

He definitely has haha

 

[Stoerner Fumbles]

Gotta ask, you have done this before?

You bet I do. I rent a new grandmother every weekend.

 

[TN-POSSUM]

Catching a ball from Milton in stride is not tossing a beanbag with grandma in the bathroom.

 

[Carp]

You don’t have to buy facts. They’re free. He missed weeks of practice during the season. Missing practice reps affects timing, and catches. That’s a fact that anyone who has coached a qb or receiver will tell you. It’s also the case in this situation. Catching a ball from Milton in stride is not tossing a beanbag with grandma in the bathroom.

Catching a football is literally 99% of his job. He wasn't exactly dropping contested catches here. We're talking passes right in bread basket, and not launched 100 mph. Sure practice reps can contribute to that some, but catching wide open passes is not something should have to be practiced when you are a starting caliber WR in the SEC.

Criticism of his poor play (particularly the drops) is completed merited.

 

[pimo1]

In their situation, the coordinators told them they would not start next yr. One was told he would not be 2nd on depth chart.

So, the kids hit the portal and NIL wasn’t part of the decision. They will be going moving a long distance from family, so it will be an adjustment.

Players can have NIL conversations with “third parties” but supposedly Not with agents.

Did they change it because initially they allowed them to have agents for NIL